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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 26, 2016 17:39:58 GMT -5
Dan Boyle lays into Larry Brooks and Brett Cyrgalis (New York Post reporters) during locker clean-out today. Profanity-laden. I recall Brooks getting under Tortorella's skin quite a few times... I don't know how some of these guys stick around in the business once they lose the respect of the players ... I get the impression that Larry Brooks is a putz ... but I do remember this one ... (strong language) ...
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2016 17:44:25 GMT -5
It would be pretty easy for the Rangers to ban Brooks from the locker room/arena permanently. All their media/pr department has to do is revoke his credentials. Boom. Done. No more free tickets, and other perks, for Brooks.
Boyle's disdain for Brooks stems from a piece Brooks wrote before the start of this season saying that signing Boyle and letting Stralman walk was perhaps the worst thing Sather had done in the last ten years. There's no doubt Boyle's game has declined, but he wasn't signed to be a top pair guy. Unfortunately, injury and poor play from others pushed him into a role and minutes he wasn't capable of handling anymore. I have yet to see Brooks lambaste Nash, who scored 15 goals in 60 games this year. Boyle had 10 ...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2016 17:49:52 GMT -5
On TSN690, they're very critical....but I find there's always a sense of respect for the GM and coach when it comes to a direct Q&A.
They never really pull a "Brooksie".
For example, starting in Dec./Jan., Marinaro used the catchphrase, "Is this a joke?" when it came to pretty much anything that went wrong with the team.
But he comes nowhere near that level of venom when he's at a scrum, whereas Brooks practices what he preaches.
So, that's the difference between either an entertainer and a journalist, or a gentleman and a jerk, or a bit of both....
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2016 18:02:41 GMT -5
Here's a piece by Travis Yost asserting that the Rangers have wasted Lundqvist's prime in terms of a Cup. There's a chart at the bottom of the article with a graph of his figures. It could be argued that we're watching that process right now in Montreal....i.e. wasting our blue-chip goaltender's prime. The look on Henrik Lundqvist’s face in Game 5 said it all. And yet, his two end-of-series quotes were even more sobering for New York Rangers fans.
First, he conceded that the Pittsburgh Penguins were both a smarter and better team.
Second, he said he spent much of Game 5 – a game he was pulled from after a particularly un-Hank performance – thinking about how the season could’ve went better for the Rangers organization.
I’m sure Lundqvist wasn’t the only Rangers representative thinking about that. The front office and coaching staff will surely spend this off-season trying to figure out how it all went wrong.
And, make no mistake, it went wrong. I wrote in my first-round preview that New York/Pittsburgh was about as lopsided a series as one could envision. The only chance I gave the Blueshirts was if Lundqvist more or less stood on his head for the duration of the series. That didn’t happen, and the end result was a Penguins team bludgeoning a Rangers group that has looked disjointed and disoriented since the puck dropped back in October.
There was some criticism directed toward Lundqvist in the hours following New York’s early exit. To a degree, it’s understandable. Yes, Lundqvist was hung out time and time again by an abysmal and entirely overwhelmed blueline, but this was more or less the same environment he has played in for years. An 86.7 per cent stop rate just isn’t going to cut it in any circumstance, particularly so in a playoff atmosphere where goals are at a premium.
Still, you have to sympathize with Lundqvist’s plight. TSN’s Ian Mendes raised the point that Lundqvist may be one of the best players in NHL history to have never won a Stanley Cup. Considering he’s almost certainly the best goaltender to have never won a title, I think this is a fair statement. Of course, none of this has been his doing. Lundqvist has been a staple of excellence for more than a decade on Broadway, right up and through this regular season – one where he continually glossed over mistakes made by a Rangers roster that would’ve punched a draft lottery ticket with league average goaltending. It’s for that reason that I really struggle with pointing the finger at Lundqvist. Rangers executives, whether they want to admit it or not, have wasted a first-ballot Hall of Famer’s prime. The data bears it out.
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2016 18:04:31 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think we use the term "journalist" liberally. At most, imo, Brooks is an "editorialist" for a tabloid. It's not really his job to research, and he certainly isn't an expert in the field he covers. Both are required, and a lot more, if you want to be called a journalist. Larry prefers to throw $hit against the wall and waits to see if it sticks.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2016 18:10:26 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think we use the term "journalist" liberally. At most, imo, Brooks is an "editorialist" for a tabloid. It's not really his job to research, and he certainly isn't an expert in the field he covers. Both are required, and a lot more, if you want to be called a journalist. Larry prefers to throw $hit against the wall and waits to see if it sticks. I've heard of yellow journalism....but that sounds more like brown....
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Post by blny on Apr 26, 2016 18:28:37 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think we use the term "journalist" liberally. At most, imo, Brooks is an "editorialist" for a tabloid. It's not really his job to research, and he certainly isn't an expert in the field he covers. Both are required, and a lot more, if you want to be called a journalist. Larry prefers to throw $hit against the wall and waits to see if it sticks. I've heard of yellow journalism....but that sounds more like brown.... If the poop sticks, I mean the shoe fits.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 27, 2016 8:55:52 GMT -5
I would imagine the other reporters have had enough of Brooks, too….poisons the scrum….and nobody gets an answer.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 27, 2016 20:35:17 GMT -5
Isles leading LIghtning 4-2 with under 4 minutes left. How long before game management comes into play?
4-3 now. Tail end of a PP. Isles couldnt get it out and then a bunch of puck bounces. Filpulla might have gloved the puck down as he reached as high as he could for it and you wonder how he gets it down without closing his fingers.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 28, 2016 0:39:42 GMT -5
Preds upset Ducks 2-1.
W2 L3 W2
That's a rocky, gutsy ride....
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2016 6:05:46 GMT -5
Isles leading LIghtning 4-2 with under 4 minutes left. How long before game management comes into play? 4-3 now. Tail end of a PP. Isles couldnt get it out and then a bunch of puck bounces. Filpulla might have gloved the puck down as he reached as high as he could for it and you wonder how he gets it down without closing his fingers. I was surprised to see this game. I can't remember the NHL starting a series until the previous round was over.
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Post by jkr on Apr 28, 2016 6:07:47 GMT -5
Preds upset Ducks 2-1. W2 L3 W2 That's a rocky, gutsy ride.... TSN showed a stat on Boudreau in game sevens. He's coached in 8 of them, all at home. His record is 1-7.
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Post by blny on Apr 28, 2016 6:08:52 GMT -5
Gutty effort by Preds. Rinne was very strong last two periods, and got help from the posts a couple of times. Despondent Ducks fans are calling out Perry. I didn't watch the game, but he featured heavily in the highlight package that nhl.com put together. He made some great individual plays to create scoring chances. He just wasn't able to beat Rinne.
According to Sportsnet, the Ducks have more game 7 losses at home in the last 4 years than Montreal does in its entire history lol.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 28, 2016 11:57:21 GMT -5
I think Getzlaf has to take a large amount of responsibility. He's the leader of that team and he didn't lead. He took a very foolish penalty in the offensive zone with 6 minutes to go, which allowed Nashville to kill off about a minute on the delayed penalty before it was whistled. I find his game has really gone south and if I were Bob Murray, I'd be trading him now before his value drops any further. It seems to be that same case as with some other of the 2003 draftees, they're slowing down that half step and its killing them. Vanek and Staal are 2 other examples.
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Post by blny on Apr 28, 2016 12:49:20 GMT -5
I think Getzlaf has to take a large amount of responsibility. He's the leader of that team and he didn't lead. He took a very foolish penalty in the offensive zone with 6 minutes to go, which allowed Nashville to kill off about a minute on the delayed penalty before it was whistled. I find his game has really gone south and if I were Bob Murray, I'd be trading him now before his value drops any further. It seems to be that same case as with some other of the 2003 draftees, they're slowing down that half step and its killing them. Vanek and Staal are 2 other examples. www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=62467He's always been light in the goal scoring department. He had 15 points in 12 games 2 playoffs ago, and 20 in 16 games last year. Only 6 of those 28 points are goals. He's virtually a ppg player in the playoffs for his career. His worst season was 57 points 11-12. He had 63 this year. Perry had a rough season too. Both got out of the gate really really slow. He's just under a ppg in the regular season. He's dipped from 87, to 70, to 63 since 13-14, but he's dipped before and recovered. So, for me anyway, it's hard to tell if this the start of that aging process or if he'll rebound. It could be that, like the Kings, the Ducks aren't extremely fast. While scoring is certainly down, teams are getting faster. Perry and Getzlaf aren't the fastest guys at the best of times. What they could use is the addition of a scoring winger. Kesler's ridiculous extension at $6.875 million a year starts next season. Perron, who played far better with the Ducks than he did the Pens, is a ufa. So are McGinn, Horcoff, Stewart, Santorelli, Holzer, and Khudobin. capfriendly says they've got more than $20 million in projected space next year, without signing Lindholm,Vatanen, Rackell, and Pirri to extensions. They haven't got a lot spent on their blue line. If they can upgrade the wing on the first line, and perhaps upgrade in goal, I think they're right back and challenging seriously to come out of the west.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 28, 2016 22:28:23 GMT -5
Oshie with his hat-trick goal in OT.
Gonna be a solid series.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 30, 2016 18:34:28 GMT -5
Really want the Isles to knock off the Bolts. I'll bet Greiss wants that second one back. Can't afford those....
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Post by blny on Apr 30, 2016 22:12:25 GMT -5
Pretty big win for Pens. Fehr had to like getting the winner against his old team. Both Eastern Conference series split the first two games. I think the Isles and Pens would take that.
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Post by Skilly on May 1, 2016 7:20:40 GMT -5
I think the Caps got screwed on the Goalie Interference call ..looked to me that Kuznetsov had a stick hit his skate that caused his leg to bend and his twisted down to the ice.
As for the refs decision to not go to video review. Given what they called that was the correct decision .... But the NHL teeters on the fine line there. You can go to video review to determine if a player was pushed in the crease to negate a goal. But you can't go to video review to determine if a player was pushed in the crease to determine a good goal. Sketchy
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 2, 2016 7:30:24 GMT -5
I'm all in on the Sharks this year. I've always liked that team - great nickname, great market for the NHL, successful in the regular season but lots of post season heartache. And I'd like to see Joe Thornton get a ring. He gets lots of heat as a playoff choker, but he's one of the best players of his era and it would be nice to see him go out with a ring.
The Sharks just seem deeper and better this year. They were always a top heavy team, but there's a lot of depth now: Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Ward, Burns, Donskoi, Vlasic, they picked up depth guys like Polak, Martin, and hit big on the goalie Jones.
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Post by blny on May 2, 2016 8:00:55 GMT -5
I'm all in on the Sharks this year. I've always liked that team - great nickname, great market for the NHL, successful in the regular season but lots of post season heartache. And I'd like to see Joe Thornton get a ring. He gets lots of heat as a playoff choker, but he's one of the best players of his era and it would be nice to see him go out with a ring. The Sharks just seem deeper and better this year. They were always a top heavy team, but there's a lot of depth now: Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Ward, Burns, Donskoi, Vlasic, they picked up depth guys like Polak, Martin, and hit big on the goalie Jones. I was thinking about this myself last night. Thornton has been through a lot, and is certainly deserving of some post season success. He's bought in to the two-way center thing. He's been strong at both ends. Pavelski and Couture are the straw the stirs the drink, but Joe is likely playing the best hockey of his life right now. Certainly the most committed. Marleau on the other hand. He's a ghost come April. Martin's been more than just depth for them too. Even at 35, he's been first pair minutes a lot with Burns. He's been the last man back and allowed Burns to play rover. I can't say that I've bought in, because it just isn't in me to root for another team. However, if they were to win it all I'd be mildly satisfied for some of the players on that team.
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Post by blny on May 2, 2016 8:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on May 2, 2016 11:15:27 GMT -5
And if you use the NHL's logic 3 playoff games is really like 6 in the regular season. Not liking the way the Caps are playing. Wilson's knee on Sheary was suspendable IMO.
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Post by blny on May 2, 2016 12:12:50 GMT -5
And if you use the NHL's logic 3 playoff games is really like 6 in the regular season. Not liking the way the Caps are playing. Wilson's knee on Sheary was suspendable IMO. Par for the course for the league and Wilson - who's quickly getting the rep of dirtiest player in the league.
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Post by CentreHice on May 2, 2016 19:49:05 GMT -5
Expect Letang to get 2 or 3 games for leaving his feet for an open ice hit to Johansson's head.
Letang got only 2:00 for interference. But the league will remedy that.
Marked man after he came out of the box....and the Caps take a penalty going after him.
I doubt it's over.
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Post by CentreHice on May 2, 2016 20:07:45 GMT -5
Cherry blames the league for "not allowing hits anymore"....so players, like Johansson, think they can just skate around and not keep their heads up.
He doesn't think Letang deserves a suspension.
Hilarious. Not only did Letang leave his feet....it was blindside....
Then Cherry went on to, once again, list his credentials....coach of the year AHL, coach of the year NHL....
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 2, 2016 20:25:25 GMT -5
I'm all in on the Sharks this year. I've always liked that team - great nickname, great market for the NHL, successful in the regular season but lots of post season heartache. And I'd like to see Joe Thornton get a ring. He gets lots of heat as a playoff choker, but he's one of the best players of his era and it would be nice to see him go out with a ring. The Sharks just seem deeper and better this year. They were always a top heavy team, but there's a lot of depth now: Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Ward, Burns, Donskoi, Vlasic, they picked up depth guys like Polak, Martin, and hit big on the goalie Jones. I'd like to see Ovechkin finally hoist the Cup ... mind you, I've probably jinxed him now ... SJ looks good ... Cheers.
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Post by jkr on May 3, 2016 9:54:11 GMT -5
Cherry blames the league for "not allowing hits anymore"....so players, like Johansson, think they can just skate around and not keep their heads up. He doesn't think Letang deserves a suspension. Hilarious. Not only did Letang leave his feet....it was blindside.... Then Cherry went on to, once again, list his credentials....coach of the year AHL, coach of the year NHL.... Cherry's experiences are so long ago that they are irrelevant. Who cares if he was coach of the year in the AHL a century ago? And what has it got to do with Letang's hit? Kind of reminds me of a Rodney Dangerfield joke that I'll paraphrase: - Cherry is old. - How old is he? - He's so old that when he went to school they didn't have history! He brings up this crap is because he thinks it gives him credibility. In actuality it has the opposite effect when he brings up stuff that happened in a bygone era. Of course, his lapdog says nothing & Sportsnet allows him to continue. When the heck is he gone anyway?
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Post by blny on May 3, 2016 9:59:45 GMT -5
If Letang had maintained his low line of approach, he gets Johansson square in the crest and I have no problem with the hit. Instead, like so many, he changes his angle to an upward blow and then leaves his feet. So many are doing it, that at some level it's clearly being taught as the 'correct' technique.
Not only has systems coaching drummed individual talent and skill from the game, but the same coaches have developed a generation of guys that don't know how to hit.
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Post by seventeen on May 3, 2016 14:35:19 GMT -5
He brings up this crap is because he thinks it gives him credibility. In actuality it has the opposite effect when he brings up stuff that happened in a bygone era. Of course, his lapdog says nothing & Sportsnet allows him to continue. When the heck is he gone anyway? Cherry and the Leaf fan base are like Therrien and Bergevin. Both are well past their due date, but both have infatuated fans who don't really care about what is true or right, so long as the requested things keep getting spouted. Who'd have thought Leaf fans and Marc Bergevin had anything in common? Strange but true.
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