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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 23, 2017 23:54:52 GMT -5
Slip sliding away. Other teams made up ground and confidence. Not a good strategy this time of year.
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Post by jkr on Mar 24, 2017 6:27:44 GMT -5
Should be interesting to see if the league does anything about Crosby.
Two games ago he speared O'Reilly in the nuts - think Lucic on DeKeyser. No penalty. Then last night he slashes Methot & breaks his finger. Again, not even a minor.
Not holding my breath.
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Post by blny on Mar 24, 2017 9:17:16 GMT -5
Should be interesting to see if the league does anything about Crosby. Two games ago he speared O'Reilly in the nuts - think Lucic on DeKeyser. No penalty. Then last night he slashes Methot & breaks his finger. Again, not even a minor. Not holding my breath. I don't see anything happening either. I'm hearing it's much more serious than a break. Methot will be out "weeks" by some reports. I've read the finger may have been partially severed. Seems extreme, but I haven't seen the incident. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 24, 2017 9:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 24, 2017 10:25:42 GMT -5
I know, we hate the Leafs but look at them objectively. We have two players Pacioretty (33 goals, 60 points), Radulov (15 goals, 48 points) that are of offensive threats that have a chance to FINISH with 50 points! We have two players at 41 points. Our 6 million man has 25 points (8 goals).
Toronto has 6 already and 4 were drafted as centers! Matthews (33 goals, 60 points), Marner (17 goals, 57 points), Nylander (21 goals, 56 points), Kadri (30 goals, 55 points), Van Riemsdyk (23 goals, 55 points) and Bozak (17 goals and 50 points).
I am with Skilly on this, for years we've needed offence and we still haven't got any. If we are not going to draft it (see Juulsen, Sergachev), then we better go out and buy it, or start trading some picks for it.
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Post by frozone on Mar 24, 2017 11:58:41 GMT -5
Should be interesting to see if the league does anything about Crosby. Two games ago he speared O'Reilly in the nuts - think Lucic on DeKeyser. No penalty. Then last night he slashes Methot & breaks his finger. Again, not even a minor. Not holding my breath. I don't see anything happening either. I'm hearing it's much more serious than a break. Methot will be out "weeks" by some reports. I've read the finger may have been partially severed. Seems extreme, but I haven't seen the incident. Yup, TSN highlights show the footage and it's pretty graphic. It looked like a half-inch or maybe a full inch of the finger was essentially chopped off, just left dangling by the skin it looked like. I gotta say, Methot is made pretty tough. He didn't seem to sell it at all, even though he would have been fully justified in doing the patented Stone drop-and-roll. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 24, 2017 12:13:37 GMT -5
I don't see anything happening either. I'm hearing it's much more serious than a break. Methot will be out "weeks" by some reports. I've read the finger may have been partially severed. Seems extreme, but I haven't seen the incident. Yup, TSN highlights show the footage and it's pretty graphic. It looked like a half-inch or maybe a full inch of the finger was essentially chopped off, just left dangling by the skin it looked like. I gotta say, Methot is made pretty tough. He didn't seem to sell it at all, even though he would have been fully justified in doing the patented Stone drop-and-roll. I could only watch it once, myself ... I don't know what their defensive depth is like but they're going to miss Methot ... however, I read somewhere that Stone may return to the lineup Saturday ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 24, 2017 13:05:45 GMT -5
I don't see anything happening either. I'm hearing it's much more serious than a break. Methot will be out "weeks" by some reports. I've read the finger may have been partially severed. Seems extreme, but I haven't seen the incident. Yup, TSN highlights show the footage and it's pretty graphic. It looked like a half-inch or maybe a full inch of the finger was essentially chopped off, just left dangling by the skin it looked like. I gotta say, Methot is made pretty tough. He didn't seem to sell it at all, even though he would have been fully justified in doing the patented Stone drop-and-roll. Melnyk was complaining in the media about it... won't get him anywhere... the NHL will not suspend the face of the league during the last 10 games of the season when he's battling for various trophies. The double standard is alive and well |
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Post by jkr on Mar 24, 2017 14:42:27 GMT -5
Yup, TSN highlights show the footage and it's pretty graphic. It looked like a half-inch or maybe a full inch of the finger was essentially chopped off, just left dangling by the skin it looked like. I gotta say, Methot is made pretty tough. He didn't seem to sell it at all, even though he would have been fully justified in doing the patented Stone drop-and-roll. Melnyk was complaining in the media about it... won't get him anywhere... the NHL will not suspend the face of the league during the last 10 games of the season when he's battling for various trophies. The double standard is alive and well The chickensh!t referees were afraid to even give him a minor for it. This league remains a joke when it come sto discipline. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 24, 2017 14:50:31 GMT -5
Melnyk was complaining in the media about it... won't get him anywhere... the NHL will not suspend the face of the league during the last 10 games of the season when he's battling for various trophies. The double standard is alive and well The chickensh!t referees were afraid to even give him a minor for it. This league remains a joke when it come sto discipline. It was friggin nasty.. Sid needs to get tuned... I'm all for stars protecting themselves but Methot did nothing to him... it was just a cheap shot. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 24, 2017 17:15:13 GMT -5
What needed to happen was a Sens player drop his gloves, and deliver a one punch cheapshot knockout blow to #87. A suspension would not be required, he'd be out just as long as Methot and maybe learn there are reperconcussions to his dirty play.
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Post by blny on Mar 24, 2017 18:12:56 GMT -5
What needed to happen was a Sens player drop his gloves, and deliver a one punch cheapshot knockout blow to #87. A suspension would not be required, he'd be out just as long as Methot and maybe learn there are repercussions to his dirty play. Where was Neil 2.0? Boriwiecki ... I know I butchered the spelling. |
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Post by blny on Mar 25, 2017 21:09:58 GMT -5
Melnyk was complaining in the media about it... won't get him anywhere... the NHL will not suspend the face of the league during the last 10 games of the season when he's battling for various trophies. The double standard is alive and well The chickensh!t referees were afraid to even give him a minor for it. This league remains a joke when it come sto discipline. Some interesting comments on After 40 tonight. Both Kypreos and Hrudey feel the league needs to visit this topic and feel that a slash to the hands that results in injury should be an automatic suspension. Hrudey commented on what he perceived to be a large increase in slashes to hands. "More than in my day" sort of talk. They do it, because slashing penalties don't get called unless the stick breaks. Friedman joked that had Crosby broken Methot's stick it would have been an automatic penalty. These sticks are so light compared to wood, that they're easy to flail around. One hand on your stick, and you can take a proper hack at someone. That was a lot harder to do with a wooden stick. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2017 10:57:45 GMT -5
Andersen is out for the Leafs. Took a few good bumps; likely pulled because of concussion protocol.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 26, 2017 14:07:45 GMT -5
What needed to happen was a Sens player drop his gloves, and deliver a one punch cheapshot knockout blow to #87. A suspension would not be required, he'd be out just as long as Methot and maybe learn there are reper concussions to his dirty play. Melnyk was reported to have said the following... Below is a response from Crosby regarding Melnyk's complaining... www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/crosby-senators-melnyk-likes-hear-talk/ |
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Post by jkr on Mar 26, 2017 17:26:29 GMT -5
What needed to happen was a Sens player drop his gloves, and deliver a one punch cheapshot knockout blow to #87. A suspension would not be required, he'd be out just as long as Methot and maybe learn there are reper concussions to his dirty play. Melnyk was reported to have said the following... Below is a response from Crosby regarding Melnyk's complaining... www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/crosby-senators-melnyk-likes-hear-talk/Except that if it was Crosby who had his finger hacked, homers like Bob Errey would still be talking about it. Lucic got fined for spearing DeKeyeser in the nuts. Crosby got nothing. Hell, Crosby didn't even get a two minute penalty for slashing Methot. It's a clear double standard. |
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Post by blny on Mar 28, 2017 21:24:26 GMT -5
Ottawa lost in shootout to Flyers. That helps us.
Matthews got his 35th to set new rookie record for Laffs.
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Post by Gogie on Mar 29, 2017 8:43:36 GMT -5
I was at the Leafs game last night (work thing; I wouldn't spend my own money to watch them!) and witnessed something I've never seen before. Roman Polak appeared to high stick a Panther. The play was whistled down and all four officials gathered together to discuss what they saw. After their discussion they called a high-sticking penalty on Polack and sent him to the box. Being in Toronto, replays of the play were quickly shown a number of times on the big screen, leading to much booing from the masses. One referee was near the penalty box and looked like he was trying hard not to look at the replay but after a brief period he called the other officials over for another discussion. Upon further review, Polack's penalty was rescinded. I know penalties are not subject to video review but it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what happened in an unofficial sense in this case. In the end the correct call was made (Polack did not high stick the Panther, he was hit in the face by the puck) but I've seen similar calls many times before and they've never been called back after the officials have had their initial discussion and called the penalty.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 29, 2017 9:29:20 GMT -5
The Oilers are back in the playoffs. This is one happy city right now (except for the huge jump in playoff ticket prices that have already been announced).
New rink, new superstar, new hope.
I guess my days of getting dirt cheap or free tickets in the last quarter of the season may officially be over!!
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 29, 2017 10:31:12 GMT -5
I've always had a soft spot for the Oilers. They were my Habs of the western conference. Hopefully they can make some noise, but are probably 2 seasons away from really contending.
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Post by blny on Mar 29, 2017 10:47:41 GMT -5
I was at the Leafs game last night (work thing; I wouldn't spend my own money to watch them!) and witnessed something I've never seen before. Roman Polak appeared to high stick a Panther. The play was whistled down and all four officials gathered together to discuss what they saw. After their discussion they called a high-sticking penalty on Polack and sent him to the box. Being in Toronto, replays of the play were quickly shown a number of times on the big screen, leading to much booing from the masses. One referee was near the penalty box and looked like he was trying hard not to look at the replay but after a brief period he called the other officials over for another discussion. Upon further review, Polack's penalty was rescinded. I know penalties are not subject to video review but it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what happened in an unofficial sense in this case. In the end the correct call was made (Polack did not high stick the Panther, he was hit in the face by the puck) but I've seen similar calls many times before and they've never been called back after the officials have had their initial discussion and called the penalty. That should have happened in the Sens vs Flyers. Wideman got a high sticking penalty on a Flyer. The Flyer player sold it hard, grabbing his mouth after whipping his head back. Wideman's stick never touched him. In fact, I'd say it never came within 6 inches. The Flyers scored on that PP, and won in a shootout. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 29, 2017 12:48:12 GMT -5
I was at the Leafs game last night (work thing; I wouldn't spend my own money to watch them!) and witnessed something I've never seen before. Roman Polak appeared to high stick a Panther. The play was whistled down and all four officials gathered together to discuss what they saw. After their discussion they called a high-sticking penalty on Polack and sent him to the box. Being in Toronto, replays of the play were quickly shown a number of times on the big screen, leading to much booing from the masses. One referee was near the penalty box and looked like he was trying hard not to look at the replay but after a brief period he called the other officials over for another discussion. Upon further review, Polack's penalty was rescinded. I know penalties are not subject to video review but it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what happened in an unofficial sense in this case. In the end the correct call was made (Polack did not high stick the Panther, he was hit in the face by the puck) but I've seen similar calls many times before and they've never been called back after the officials have had their initial discussion and called the penalty. That should have happened in the Sens vs Flyers. Wideman got a high sticking penalty on a Flyer. The Flyer player sold it hard, grabbing his mouth after whipping his head back. Wideman's stick never touched him. In fact, I'd say it never came within 6 inches. The Flyers scored on that PP, and won in a shootout. Well...whether they like it or not, the refs have set a precedent. They can use the re-convene excuse all they want. Arena replays and the resultant crowd reaction can overturn a penalty call. What are the chances we'll see that again? Other than for the Leafs, that is..... Did you guys know that, after seeing replays, Kerry Fraser has admitted that Gretzky did indeed high-stick Gilmour in Game 6, 1993? Did scoreboard video replays exist back then? I don't think so. Whew!  |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 29, 2017 13:03:50 GMT -5
I was at the Leafs game last night (work thing; I wouldn't spend my own money to watch them!) and witnessed something I've never seen before. Roman Polak appeared to high stick a Panther. The play was whistled down and all four officials gathered together to discuss what they saw. After their discussion they called a high-sticking penalty on Polack and sent him to the box. Being in Toronto, replays of the play were quickly shown a number of times on the big screen, leading to much booing from the masses. One referee was near the penalty box and looked like he was trying hard not to look at the replay but after a brief period he called the other officials over for another discussion. Upon further review, Polack's penalty was rescinded. I know penalties are not subject to video review but it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what happened in an unofficial sense in this case. In the end the correct call was made (Polack did not high stick the Panther, he was hit in the face by the puck) but I've seen similar calls many times before and they've never been called back after the officials have had their initial discussion and called the penalty. Then you have what happened last night in the Montreal-Dallas game. Arturri Lehkonen's head snapped back and the play went on. After the whistle, he skated by the ref to ask why there wasn't a high sticking penalty. The ref wouldn't even look at him, yet mimicked Lehkonen's head snap,(I guess his way of suggesting it was faked) almost head butting Lehkonen while doing so. The replay clearly showed Lehkonen was highsticked. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2017 13:21:32 GMT -5
Here's my solution, which will never be implemented because it follows my policy of minimum 20 game suspensions for head shots. Let the refs review the incident. If a player has jerked his head back and attempted to draw a high sticking penalty (without going to the ref and saying he did it thinking he was going to be hit), then the player gets a 5 minute embellishment major and is suspended for a game. Honest players who were simply trying to avoid the hit can tell the ref who will void any penalty. No harm, no foul. I'd say it would take one maybe two instances and that fakery would be removed from the game. So simple.
Why won't they instigate that kind of punishment? Well, when the league is run by people like head of officiating STephen Walkom who thinks people who espouse taking fighting out of the game are yella bellied, lily livered cowards and was quoted basically saying that, there's absolutely no surprise the NHL remains a neanderthal league.
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Post by Polarice on Mar 29, 2017 14:17:51 GMT -5
The Oilers are back in the playoffs. This is one happy city right now (except for the huge jump in playoff ticket prices that have already been announced). New rink, new superstar, new hope. I guess my days of getting dirt cheap or free tickets in the last quarter of the season may officially be over!! Yep for sure....I tried to land cheap tickets when the Habs were here....no such luck. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 29, 2017 15:53:04 GMT -5
The Oilers are back in the playoffs. This is one happy city right now (except for the huge jump in playoff ticket prices that have already been announced). New rink, new superstar, new hope. I guess my days of getting dirt cheap or free tickets in the last quarter of the season may officially be over!! Yep for sure....I tried to land cheap tickets when the Habs were here....no such luck. Even in Oiler non-playoff years those Habs tickets never come without a premium unless you are able to get them through the box office (ie, right after they go on sale on ticketmaster, because they disappear almost instantly). I know a number of season ticket holders who recover some of their costs by selling off their high demand games like the Habs, Leafs, Pens etc at a pretty good markup. |
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Post by CentreHice on Mar 29, 2017 18:01:34 GMT -5
Yep for sure....I tried to land cheap tickets when the Habs were here....no such luck. Even in Oiler non-playoff years those Habs tickets never come without a premium unless you are able to get them through the box office (ie, right after they go on sale on ticketmaster, because they disappear almost instantly). I know a number of season ticket holders who recover some of their costs by selling off their high demand games like the Habs, Leafs, Pens etc at a pretty good markup. Are you saying that there's a scalper-frenzied visiting team in the West other than the Leafs? Sacrilege! |
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Post by folatre on Mar 31, 2017 20:37:03 GMT -5
I watch less non-Habs hockey than I used to, but I turned on Columbus-Chicago this evening and it is good hockey. Blackhawks imposing more end to end action than ideal for Jackets, but Columbus asking physical questions of Chicago.
Open, offensive action and chippy for good measure, this is good stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 10:39:44 GMT -5
Sens are getting nailed with injuries and their play has plummeted. Wonder what that's like.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 2, 2017 18:07:47 GMT -5
Deja vu. It's not 4th liners getting hurt either. Top 6 guys and their 3 best Dmen.
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