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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 18:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 29, 2017 18:37:17 GMT -5
Pageau with four goals. Sens win in double OT - 6-5. We ccouldn't do anything against Lundquist and that pipsqueak gets 4 goals... amazing How Saperlipopettety are the habs This really stinks. Habs score 11 goals in 6 games. Pageau scores 4 in one game.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 22:09:23 GMT -5
Capitals about to go down 0-2 to the Penguins. Pittsburgh definitely appearing to be in cup form. What dominance.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 30, 2017 16:46:54 GMT -5
Preds with a 1:45 or so possession shift in the Blues' end....resulting in Josi's 3-1 goal late in the third.
Allen pulled with 4:09 to go.
--Subban with a great stick check preventing a sure goal by Stastny.
--and a nice kick pass to a teammate as his stick was tied up...clearing the zone with the pressure on.
3-1 final.
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Post by blny on Apr 30, 2017 18:38:51 GMT -5
Preds with a 1:45 or so possession shift in the Blues' end....resulting in Josi's 3-1 goal late in the third. Allen pulled with 4:09 to go. --Subban with a great stick check preventing a sure goal by Stastny. --and a nice kick pass to a teammate as his stick was tied up...clearing the zone with the pressure on. 3-1 final. Two big plays. That top 4 is really really good. With about 6 minutes played in the second, Subban had played 10 minutes. That top four plays A LOT. Laviolette might have to worry about that as the playoffs go on, but right now it's winning them games. |
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 30, 2017 19:33:32 GMT -5
McDavid with a beauty!
Fakes the Duck out of his webbed skates....and rifles a writer to the top corner.
After being down 3-0....it's now 3-3.
EDIT: And then Talbot allows a weak one (unless it hit something before it got to his blocker)...4-3 Ducks.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 30, 2017 19:59:27 GMT -5
Preds with a 1:45 or so possession shift in the Blues' end....resulting in Josi's 3-1 goal late in the third. Allen pulled with 4:09 to go. --Subban with a great stick check preventing a sure goal by Stastny. --and a nice kick pass to a teammate as his stick was tied up...clearing the zone with the pressure on. 3-1 final. Two big plays. That top 4 is really really good. With about 6 minutes played in the second, Subban had played 10 minutes. That top four plays A LOT. Laviolette might have to worry about that as the playoffs go on, but right now it's winning them games. And he had an assist on the first goal. Ellis is tied with Karlsson at 8 for D playoff points. Subban is next at 6. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 1, 2017 18:51:31 GMT -5
Niskanen cross checks Crosby in the face.
He knew what he was doing...IMO.
Should be a major and gone.
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Post by CentreHice on May 1, 2017 18:52:31 GMT -5
Yep...5:00 and a game. With Crosby's history, I'd be worried....vicious play.
If Crosby has a concussion, I'd expect Niskanen to get a few games off.
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Post by CentreHice on May 1, 2017 19:33:55 GMT -5
Kypreos and Hrudey didn't think it was deliberate. Just "reactionary".
I could be wrong, but it looked deliberate to me.
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Post by CentreHice on May 1, 2017 21:24:12 GMT -5
Shots were 11-1 Washington with about 5:00 left...and with a 2-0 lead, they couldn't find the empty net.
Pens got the next 5 shots...and it's 2-2 going to OT.
With the Pens losing Crosby and Sheary in this game...they appeared done. But two goals with Fleury (who played a great game) pulled. Credit to them.
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Post by jkr on May 1, 2017 21:42:39 GMT -5
If Washington can't win under these circumstances they deserve to be swept.
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Post by CentreHice on May 1, 2017 21:48:19 GMT -5
A Shattenkirk PP wrister from the point finds its way through.
If Crosby is out for a while, the Caps just might have a chance...
Fleury kept the Pens in it. But the Caps and that empty net....not even a real chance at it.
EDIT: Just before the Niskanen face-smash, Ovechkin delivered a penalty-worthy slash to Crosby's arm....his skate hit Crosby's leg...then his stick hit Crosby's helmet. The combo sent Crosby off-balance. BANG.
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Post by CentreHice on May 2, 2017 13:45:45 GMT -5
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Post by blny on May 2, 2017 14:49:42 GMT -5
I watched the play a few times. I'm deeming it an unfortunate accident. IMO, he never established eye contact with Sid. He saw a black jersey headed his way, and his intent was to use his stick to push the player away from the space his was in. Sid falling into Niskanen resulted in the stick to the head. If he keeps his feet, it's a stick to the shoulder or arm. It's still a "cross check", but those are so infrequently called this time of year ...
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Post by jkr on May 2, 2017 15:03:54 GMT -5
I read the article & then had a look at some comments. Big mistake. Is it just me or does Sportsnet have the lowest level of value when it comes to users opinions? There is obvious bias, they are usually misinformed & frequently try to hijack a thread for their own agenda. SN should do what IMDB did several months ago - close commenting permanently because it's pretty much useless. |
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Post by Skilly on May 2, 2017 16:04:17 GMT -5
There are three elements to the play.
1 - Ovechkin's slash. To quote Crosby during the last weeks of the regular season, that's a play you see hundreds of times. Ovechkin's stick caught him in the arm, then as Crosby cut across the goal, the stick rode up his arm, and glanced off his helmet.
2 - Ovechkin's slew foot. As Crosby cut across the goal, it wasn't Ovechkin's stick that spun him around. it was the right skate of Ovechkin, as he veered away from the goal, making contact with the left skate of Crosby as he cut toward the goal. Totally accidental.
3 - Niskanen's cross check - Crosby was spun around falling into Niskanen. I can not see how anyone can say this was intentional. At regular speed I originally thought Niskanen was trying to catch a falling Crosby. At super slow motion, it's clear to me Niskanen put his arms up to brace for the contact that was about to happen.
My take:
I feel the refs over reacted based on who was lying on the ice. I did not think that 5 and a misconduct was warranted. I even think there should not have been a 2 minute penalty to Niskanen. It just didn't look that viscous to me. I would not have been upset if Niskanen received two minutes, but I really thought Ovechkin should have gotten two minutes for slashing. But again, the slash had nothing to do with the result
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:12:05 GMT -5
There are three elements to the play. 1 - Ovechkin's slash. To quote Crosby during the last weeks of the regular season, that's a play you see hundreds of times. Ovechkin's stick caught him in the arm, then as Crosby cut across the goal, the stick rode up his arm, and glanced off his helmet. 2 - Ovechkin's slew foot. As Crosby cut across the goal, it wasn't Ovechkin's stick that spun him around. it was the right skate of Ovechkin, as he veered away from the goal, making contact with the left skate of Crosby as he cut toward the goal. Totally accidental. 3 - Niskanen's cross check - Crosby was spun around falling into Niskanen. I can not see how anyone can say this was intentional. At regular speed I originally thought Niskanen was trying to catch a falling Crosby. At super slow motion, it's clear to me Niskanen put his arms up to brace for the contact that was about to happen. My take: I feel the refs over reacted based on who was lying on the ice. I did not think that 5 and a misconduct was warranted. I even think there should not have been a 2 minute penalty to Niskanen. It just didn't look that viscous to me. I would not have been upset if Niskanen received two minutes, but I really thought Ovechkin should have gotten two minutes for slashing. But again, the slash had nothing to do with the result Disagree, the slash had everything to do with the result, it is what sent Crosby careening off balance and forced Niskanen into bracing himself, I agree the slash should have been called but it's NHL so rules change with the wind. |
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Post by Skilly on May 2, 2017 17:56:12 GMT -5
The contact of their skates sent him off balance. The stick bent a lot against Crosby but didn't impede him until their skates made contact ..
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Post by Skilly on May 2, 2017 18:16:30 GMT -5
Freeze this at the 55 sec mark when he shows it in super slow mo ...
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Post by CentreHice on May 2, 2017 21:39:26 GMT -5
With Crosby out, the ice becomes level...
It also gives the winner of the Sens/Rangers slightly better hope of reaching the Finals...
Crosby is the most-valuable forward in the league, wouldn't you say? Some say in the world, at the moment.
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Post by CentreHice on May 2, 2017 23:48:36 GMT -5
Preds up 3-1.
I think it's the best position they've been in to get to Round 3.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 0:18:02 GMT -5
Freeze this at the 55 sec mark when he shows it in super slow mo ... That and when the stick hit the back of his head it seemed to effect him. |
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Post by Skilly on May 3, 2017 6:37:12 GMT -5
Freeze this at the 55 sec mark when he shows it in super slow mo ... That and when the stick hit the back of his head it seemed to effect him. The stick glanced off his helmet after the skates made contact, but looking at it again, Crosby does seem to flinch after the puck is cleared away and after he is twisted around, which may be due to the contact to his helmet. |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 3, 2017 7:30:53 GMT -5
That and when the stick hit the back of his head it seemed to effect him. The stick glanced off his helmet after the skates made contact, but looking at it again, Crosby does seem to flinch after the puck is cleared away and after he is twisted around, which may be due to the contact to his helmet. Its interesting that the times Crosby has gotten a concussion it's been a hit to the side of the head... Patches on the other hand when face first into a stanchion and it did not impact him in any sort of long lasting way (except he seems more apprehensive now)... |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 9:25:58 GMT -5
Preds up 3-1. I think it's the best position they've been in to get to Round 3. Blues are losing their heads, complaining about the officiating. Ryan Reaves was the third man in on a scrum and gets penalized (which is supposed to be a penalty). Preds score on the ensuing PP. They're upset that it was called in a playoff game. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 3, 2017 21:22:04 GMT -5
If ever I've seen the need for video review of questionable high-sticking penalties, tonight was the night.
Caps down 3-2 with just over 2:00 to go. As they pull Holtby, Oshie's stick comes up on Bonino and hits him in the shoulder. Bonino does a head snap that puts Plekanec's to shame.
2:00 to Oshie...
Goalie pulled means basically nothing...the Caps don't even get close...and they're down 3-1.
Such a play MUST be an automatic review.
Outright fakery has likely decided this series...which means it could decide a Cup.
The Caps might've tied the series tonight and gone home with a good chance to go up 3-2 sans Crosby.
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EDIT: After the 1st period in Edmonton, the HNIC panel talked about the above play. They acknowledged that Bonino sold it big-time, but zero criticism. Guess it all depends upon the team or the player. I can think of several players who'd be ripped for that.
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Post by jkr on May 4, 2017 6:16:56 GMT -5
If ever I've seen the need for video review of questionable high-sticking penalties, tonight was the night. Caps down 3-2 with just over 2:00 to go. As they pull Holtby, Oshie's stick comes up on Bonino and hits him in the shoulder. Bonino does a head snap that puts Plekanec's to shame. 2:00 to Oshie... Goalie pulled means basically nothing...the Caps don't even get close...and they're down 3-1. Such a play MUST be an automatic review. Outright fakery has likely decided this series...which means it could decide a Cup. The Caps might've tied the series tonight and gone home with a good chance to go up 3-2 sans Crosby. ======================= EDIT: After the 1st period in Edmonton, the HNIC panel talked about the above play. They acknowledged that Bonino sold it big-time, but zero criticism. Guess it all depends upon the team or the player. I can think of several players who'd be ripped for that. Hard to say if it did affect the game but it certainly is a bush league move and Bonino should have been ripped for ithe. If that was A Hab.... |
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Post by CentreHice on May 4, 2017 6:36:37 GMT -5
I think it did affect the outcome, jkr. The play occurred with 1:52 left--negating any advantage with Holtby pulled. It would've take one replay to see it.....way shorter than it takes to determine whether or not a goalie is nudged. It was embellishment of the first order. If players knew that a head snap would automatically be reviewed, they wouldn't do it....especially in that situation. A Bonino penalty would've given the Caps a 6-on-4 advantage. In Nashville on Tuesday night, the Blues' Edmunson took a run at Subban after Ellis made it 1-0 early in the third. Edmunson hit PK in the head and knocked his helmet off. PK, on the ice, raised his hands to his own head for protection. Edmunson, 2:00 for roughing. Subban, 2:00 for embellishment. Like I said, it depends who you are. Integrity of the game....right?  |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 4, 2017 8:48:01 GMT -5
If ever I've seen the need for video review of questionable high-sticking penalties, tonight was the night. Caps down 3-2 with just over 2:00 to go. As they pull Holtby, Oshie's stick comes up on Bonino and hits him in the shoulder. Bonino does a head snap that puts Plekanec's to shame. 2:00 to Oshie... Goalie pulled means basically nothing...the Caps don't even get close...and they're down 3-1. Such a play MUST be an automatic review. Outright fakery has likely decided this series...which means it could decide a Cup. The Caps might've tied the series tonight and gone home with a good chance to go up 3-2 sans Crosby. ======================= EDIT: After the 1st period in Edmonton, the HNIC panel talked about the above play. They acknowledged that Bonino sold it big-time, but zero criticism. Guess it all depends upon the team or the player. I can think of several players who'd be ripped for that. Everyone on the Habs would be |
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