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Post by blny on May 9, 2017 17:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2017 17:13:13 GMT -5
I haven't seen any reports of Lefebvre and his crew not being invited back next year. I'm not surprised that Tourigny is being interviewed, but is that not getting the horse before the cart (oops, turn that around). Isn't it appropriate to let the incumbent know his contract is not being renewed? Maybe LEfebvre's already been told that, but, there's that but again, wouldn't a press release to that effect make sense so we don't end up in this situation where more management procedures are questioned?
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Post by blny on May 9, 2017 17:26:23 GMT -5
I haven't seen any reports of Lefebvre and his crew not being invited back next year. I'm not surprised that Tourigny is being interviewed, but is that not getting the horse before the cart? Isn't it appropriate to let the incumbent know his contract is not being renewed? Maybe LEfebvre's already been told that, but, there's that but again, wouldn't a press release to that effect make sense so we don't end up in this situation where more management procedures are questioned? It's strange yes. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 10, 2017 7:33:36 GMT -5
Being a coach in the AHL is just like being a player. Either you show what it takes to make it to the big leagues, in this case the leadership, coaching, organization skills, or you get shown the door. The Habs owe nothing to Lefebvre, a guy who has had no success either winning games, developing players, or instilling a winning culture. Enough. The Habs should always be recycling through coaches at the AHL level, poaching from the junior or even the university ranks until they find one who can make the leap.
Sadly, they seemed to have one a while back in Guy Boucher but he was blocked by Jacques Martin. Boucher is now making his 2nd trip to the conference finals as coach.
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Post by frozone on May 10, 2017 8:15:32 GMT -5
I haven't seen any reports of Lefebvre and his crew not being invited back next year. I'm not surprised that Tourigny is being interviewed, but is that not getting the horse before the cart? Isn't it appropriate to let the incumbent know his contract is not being renewed? Maybe LEfebvre's already been told that, but, there's that but again, wouldn't a press release to that effect make sense so we don't end up in this situation where more management procedures are questioned? It's strange yes. It's definitely weird if MB knows for sure that he won't be bringing Lefebvre back. But who knows, maybe Lefebvre is still under consideration for a return gig if the other interviews don't impress. Now if Sly got re-hired after the whole interview process, then THAT would be weird. |
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Post by blny on May 10, 2017 8:19:03 GMT -5
It's definitely weird if MB knows for sure that he won't be bringing Lefebvre back. But who knows, maybe Lefebvre is still under consideration for a return gig if the other interviews don't impress. Now if Sly got re-hired after the whole interview process, then THAT would be weird. It's all very cart before the horse. |
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Post by jkr on May 10, 2017 8:59:22 GMT -5
If for some unknown reason you did want Lefebvre back then why not just renew?
He's probably out but no one has told him yet.
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Post by blny on May 10, 2017 9:10:11 GMT -5
If for some unknown reason you did want Lefebvre back then why not just renew? He's probably out but no one has told him yet. I don't think anyone outside the club wants him back. It's just strange that reports would get out about interviewing replacements before an official release about his release. |
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Post by frozone on May 10, 2017 9:50:36 GMT -5
Did the Habs report that they were interviewing, Or is this leaked info? As far as I can tell, this appears to be a rumor started by Jean-Charles Lajoie who was referencing his "sources" on the radio.
I get the feeling that the Club would never have released this and are probably upset that word got out.
But none of that matters, I guess. I just hope with all my heart that there will be a coaching change.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 10, 2017 12:53:01 GMT -5
One of the better candidates, Joel Bouchard, is still hanging on with his Armada to their last life line in the QMJHL playoffs as they are now on the brink of elimination in the finals. I am hoping he gets to be part of whatever process is or is not happening. Ducharme has been linked to talks with Chicago's AHL team, but I am hoping he gets some face time with the brass as well.
It is time for new blood behind the bench in Laval. A fresh start and a fresh new coaching pool would be a nice complement. The farm team has been able to wallow in relative anonymity under Lefebvre in Hamilton and St. John's, far enough away from the ever-watchful eye of the Montreal hockey media. That will all change this fall.
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Post by seventeen on May 10, 2017 12:54:19 GMT -5
Sadly, they seemed to have one a while back in Guy Boucher but he was blocked by Jacques Martin. Boucher is now making his 2nd trip to the conference finals as coach. Hmmm. Maybe he isn't all about the trap? |
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Post by duster on May 11, 2017 14:33:00 GMT -5
Get ready to be disappointed.
According to Enricco Ciccone, Sly confirmed that he is presently negotiating with Bergevin for a contract extension.
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Post by seventeen on May 11, 2017 16:31:37 GMT -5
Like I said. We don't move ahead until Bergevin is replaced. That's quite insane, considering actually keeping Lefebvre.
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2017 17:40:48 GMT -5
Is anybody in the MTL media questioning this crap? What will it take for Bergevin to see that this situation has failed. Just one more reason why have no confidence in MB. Failure gets rewarded.  |
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Post by blny on May 11, 2017 19:43:41 GMT -5
Disappointing for sure. I gave the link in the OP credit because Paul Hollingsworth shared it. I figure they're a media outlet that covers the AHL. Seriously doubt Paul would follow them if he didn't think they were legit. He isn't the type.
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Post by frozone on Jun 29, 2017 8:24:33 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jun 29, 2017 9:11:43 GMT -5
Let the mediocrity continue.
And I guess that if Larry Carriere is back, then his son will continue as an assistant. Nothing like a dose of nepotism. What a joke.
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Post by folatre on Jun 29, 2017 10:04:22 GMT -5
Molson is busy counting his money, I guess.
Coaching is a non cap controlled competitive advantage. Yet the near totality of Bergevin's 5+ year tenure managing the organisation has been characterized by filling the foxhole with mediocre coaches.
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Post by duster on Jun 29, 2017 11:29:03 GMT -5
Molson is busy counting his money, I guess. Coaching is a non cap controlled competitive advantage. Yet the near totality of Bergevin's 5+ year tenure managing the organisation has been characterized by filling the foxhole with mediocre coaches. An organization is a reflection of its leadership. I'm not holding my breath about getting any sort of useful player out of Laval. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 29, 2017 12:54:55 GMT -5
Losing interest in this team... From the article on Sportsnet Really MB?  I mean Really? Time for MB to get out of the fashion shops and see what his buddies are doing to this organisation. Hello Geoff... Hello... Time to stop doing Molson commercials for Canada 150 and see how MB and his cronies are making this once great organisation into the Ballards leafs. Edit: Max Friberg went back to Sweden to improve his development one day he might come back. EOTP interview. Stagnating under Lefebvre (paraphrasing) (see at the 1:30 mark).. No different than MT. Same Saperlipopette different pile imo. Friberg Interview |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Jun 29, 2017 13:07:33 GMT -5
I am really disappointed. This would have been a good opportunity to bring in some good young up and coming French coaches to develop and groom the prospects with a fresh view while adding potential assistant or head coaches to the main team later on.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 29, 2017 13:52:39 GMT -5
New team, new logo, new name, new location...same stagnated old coach. Five years, four playoff games and one playoff win. Awesome.
Expect the expected. Really disappointing, but somewhat predictable. And to boot Larry Carriere is officially their GM, with his son as an assistant coach. You remember the guy that coached in Division III NCAA rather than in the CHL where you would hope from which to draw qualified coaches. It just gets better and better.
I hope the local media and fan base are on Berg's case non-stop about this. I know nothing will change, but I am sure Molson has to take some notice of negative public opinion on this front. Lefebvre's contract even expired after last season, you could have cut the cord so nicely and respectfully. The new foxhole buddy.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 29, 2017 14:22:46 GMT -5
What does it say when your minor league head coach can't even get an offer to be an assistant somewhere else in the big show? The minor leagues aren't just for player development, but coaches too. If you haven't advanced yet, chances are you are not a good coach to start with.
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Post by jkr on Jun 29, 2017 14:32:49 GMT -5
I've reached the opinion that Molson is just a clueless fanboy. I guess he has no problem with Carriere retaining his son as coach because he knows all about nepotism. After all, his last name is Molson. He just fell into piles of money because of it.
He got raked over the coals after the Subban trade so rather than face the fans again he has chosen to hide & count the cash that this team produces without a stop. IMO, he's the key. Until he grows a set Bergevin will have free rein to muddle along, hiring friends and family to mismanage the Canadiens towards the bottom.
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