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Post by GNick99 on Jan 29, 2018 9:07:27 GMT -5
Watched Rocket game last night noticed Petan....looked good player. Wonder if we could get him as throw-in in Plekanec type trade? Sounds like Plekanec may have trouble returning a first pick, I would offer a 2nd and Petan for TP? I don't think there was a chance Pleks would return that. Optimal return, imo, 2 seconds. Given where his offense has gone, I think we're looking at 2nd and a third. Well that is good return on Plekanec. I would ask about Petan as throw-in if he does go to Jets. He certainly has the hands. Could be another steal. Better hands than anybody we have with the Rocket. Schebak has the skill but some games I wonder if he has the work ethic to be everyday 2nd line winger in NHL. Could be another Perezhogin |
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Post by blny on Jan 29, 2018 9:15:35 GMT -5
I don't think there was a chance Pleks would return that. Optimal return, imo, 2 seconds. Given where his offense has gone, I think we're looking at 2nd and a third. Well that is good return on Plekanec. I would ask about Petan as throw-in if he does go to Jets. He certainly has the hands. Could be another steal. Better hands than anybody we have with the Rocket. Schebak has the skill but some games I wonder if he has the work ethic to be everyday 2nd line winger in NHL. Could be another Perezhogin I'd have to ask NWT to confirm, but Nikita has been putting in the work this year. The only thing that's held Nikita back at this point is injury. Not sure where the Perezhogin comparison is coming from. |
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Post by GNick99 on Jan 29, 2018 10:01:00 GMT -5
Well that is good return on Plekanec. I would ask about Petan as throw-in if he does go to Jets. He certainly has the hands. Could be another steal. Better hands than anybody we have with the Rocket. Schebak has the skill but some games I wonder if he has the work ethic to be everyday 2nd line winger in NHL. Could be another Perezhogin I'd have to ask NWT to confirm, but Nikita has been putting in the work this year. The only thing that's held Nikita back at this point is injury. Not sure where the Perezhogin comparison is coming from. See another example of guy who don't know the game. Going to be my last post here. There is nothing here |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 29, 2018 10:19:51 GMT -5
A few things have held Scherbak back IMO.
First, as blny mentions, the injuries did not help. Critical development time was lost due to injuries. One also hit when he was starting to get some momentum going. Those are killers.
Second, his usage. Up until this year, Sly has bounced him around the lineup a lot. First line, second line, bottom six. It is hard as a very young player to develop good habits and get any flow to your game if you have no ongoing chemistry with your linemates. More experienced guys can pull it off, but it is hard on a young guy just starting to learn the pro game which is a bit step up from juniors, where often things come easily for the more talented guys (ie, they can get away with a bit more). This year he is finally getting regular top line ice time, and it shows. Sly has played his vets on his starting five with one exception, and that is Scherbak. It is helping his game big time.
Third, his defensive play. He still needs to work on his play in his own end. He will need to if he wants to get regular ice time with a coach like Julien who obsesses on one's 200 foot game.
Fourth, his strength. He can really fly out there and is a great playmaker. He still can get knocked off the puck though, and the game gets even tighter at the NHL level. I know he committed to working in this past off season in Montreal. That is a good start. He will need to continue to work on that to be able to handle the rigours of the NHL game and not end up on his caboose all the time or else easily knocked off the puck. Julien does also seem to put a ton of stock on board battles. Scherbak may have some work to do here lol!!
I think his progression has been very good this year. As you can imagine with any player picked in the late first, there are warts to his game. Some still need work but he is showing better offensive progression which is pretty critical at this point in his development. He has to clear waivers next season, so the big club will need to make a decision on him. At this point he looks ready for the next step although there are still things to be worked on. That is why they have NHL caliber coaches, right?!?
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Post by blny on Jan 29, 2018 10:37:09 GMT -5
I'd have to ask NWT to confirm, but Nikita has been putting in the work this year. The only thing that's held Nikita back at this point is injury. Not sure where the Perezhogin comparison is coming from. See another example of guy who don't know the game. Going to be my last post here. There is nothing here I think Alex 'knew the game', but he absolutely snapped in an incident in the AHL and went home. Take care. |
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Post by blny on Jan 29, 2018 10:37:57 GMT -5
A few things have held Scherbak back IMO. First, as blny mentions, the injuries did not help. Critical development time was lost due to injuries. One also hit when he was starting to get some momentum going. Those are killers. Second, his usage. Up until this year, Sly has bounced him around the lineup a lot. First line, second line, bottom six. It is hard as a very young player to develop good habits and get any flow to your game if you have no ongoing chemistry with your linemates. More experienced guys can pull it off, but it is hard on a young guy just starting to learn the pro game which is a bit step up from juniors, where often things come easily for the more talented guys (ie, they can get away with a bit more). This year he is finally getting regular top line ice time, and it shows. Sly has played his vets on his starting five with one exception, and that is Scherbak. It is helping his game big time. Third, his defensive play. He still needs to work on his play in his own end. He will need to if he wants to get regular ice time with a coach like Julien who obsesses on one's 200 foot game. Fourth, his strength. He can really fly out there and is a great playmaker. He still can get knocked off the puck though, and the game gets even tighter at the NHL level. I know he committed to working in this past off season in Montreal. That is a good start. He will need to continue to work on that to be able to handle the rigours of the NHL game and not end up on his caboose all the time or else easily knocked off the puck. Julien does also seem to put a ton of stock on board battles. Scherbak may have some work to do here lol!! I think his progression has been very good this year. As you can imagine with any player picked in the late first, there are warts to his game. Some still need work but he is showing better offensive progression which is pretty critical at this point in his development. He has to clear waivers next season, so the big club will need to make a decision on him. At this point he looks ready for the next step although there are still things to be worked on. That is why they have NHL caliber coaches, right?!? Good post. Lack of strength was something I noticed. |
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Post by seventeen on Jan 29, 2018 13:39:21 GMT -5
A few things have held Scherbak back IMO. First, as blny mentions, the injuries did not help. Critical development time was lost due to injuries. One also hit when he was starting to get some momentum going. Those are killers. Second, his usage. Up until this year, Sly has bounced him around the lineup a lot. First line, second line, bottom six. It is hard as a very young player to develop good habits and get any flow to your game if you have no ongoing chemistry with your linemates. More experienced guys can pull it off, but it is hard on a young guy just starting to learn the pro game which is a bit step up from juniors, where often things come easily for the more talented guys (ie, they can get away with a bit more). This year he is finally getting regular top line ice time, and it shows. Sly has played his vets on his starting five with one exception, and that is Scherbak. It is helping his game big time. Third, his defensive play. He still needs to work on his play in his own end. He will need to if he wants to get regular ice time with a coach like Julien who obsesses on one's 200 foot game. Fourth, his strength. He can really fly out there and is a great playmaker. He still can get knocked off the puck though, and the game gets even tighter at the NHL level. I know he committed to working in this past off season in Montreal. That is a good start. He will need to continue to work on that to be able to handle the rigours of the NHL game and not end up on his caboose all the time or else easily knocked off the puck. Julien does also seem to put a ton of stock on board battles. Scherbak may have some work to do here lol!! I think his progression has been very good this year. As you can imagine with any player picked in the late first, there are warts to his game. Some still need work but he is showing better offensive progression which is pretty critical at this point in his development. He has to clear waivers next season, so the big club will need to make a decision on him. At this point he looks ready for the next step although there are still things to be worked on. That is why they have NHL caliber coaches, right?!? Great assessment, NWT. Without the scoring improvement, it's not likely he gets the chance to work on the other things, so it's good to see him putting up points consistently. From being a 'bubble' prospect, I think he's moved into the legitimate category. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 1, 2018 19:42:11 GMT -5
It is almost unfair to pile on...almost!!  |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 1, 2018 23:53:05 GMT -5
A further tweet tried to defend Lefebvre by pointing out a number of his guys had been called up to Montreal and that the team had faced injuries. Then someone else rebutted by stating that Utica has had more injuries and had call ups to the Canucks, but their coach has them in a playoff spot 12 points ahead of the Rocket. Wham!
The Habs organization truly is loaded with losers. #ThanksMarc
Keep piling on, NWT. It's the only entertainment we get.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 3, 2018 3:23:34 GMT -5
Crap, we called up Scherbak. He could help the team lol.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 3, 2018 19:53:58 GMT -5
Marlies 7 Rocket 1.
Slip, Sly-ding away.
Now 15 points out of a playoff spot. Sly’s career one playoff win in almost six seasons is not going up anytime soon.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 6, 2018 12:57:16 GMT -5
Headline from Habs Eye on the Prize
‘If we want to make a playoff push we’ve got to get real serious’: Charlie Lindgren reacts to his team’s worst loss of the season
I hate to break this to you, Charlie, but the one thing that needs to happen for the team to have a shot at the playoffs is not in your hands. It's behind the bench and in that room up in the ivory tower.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 10, 2018 1:25:56 GMT -5
Another game, another loss, this time 2-1 to Utica. Rockets now 13 points out of playoff spot. Stick a fork in Lefebvre right after Bergevin is fired. Charlie Lindgren got 3rd star. theahl.com/stats/game-summary/1017828 |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 11, 2018 12:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by duster on Feb 11, 2018 13:56:14 GMT -5
Seems the only player being developed is Adam Cracknell. Meanwhile, the culture of losing continues. I wouldn't be surprised if Sly is replaced by Carriere Jr. at the end of the season. Father and son foxhole buddies? Sly gets promoted to the big club, of course. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 14, 2018 22:31:09 GMT -5
Charlie is happy after his new deal, as he led his depleted lineup to a 3-2 victory over the Belleville Sens. Goals by Gregoire, Baun and Audette.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 17, 2018 13:10:22 GMT -5
Hershey Bears mauled the Rocket 6-3 last night. Two teams with similar records, but you would not know it.
Rocket 17 points out of the playoffs, and have played an extra game than the fourth place team. Keep fighting boys, Berg said so.
Foxhole special.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 21, 2018 11:25:06 GMT -5
Rookie Jeremiah Addison is back on the ice with the Rocket wearing a no contact jersey. He had shoulder surgery and has missed the whole season and was scheduled to be back sometime in March. Looks like that is a possibility. At this point, it is just about him getting some games in this season and shaking off the rust as the Rocket won't be playing in the second season.
Thanks Berg. Thanks Sly.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 21, 2018 14:21:59 GMT -5
Four out of 5 seasons out of the playoffs and Bergevin went out of his way to subsidize the Rocket this year with more than the usual number of AHL vets. In Sly's defense (bad pun), Bergevin's choices of guys like Eric Gelinas probably hurt more than helped. As did some injuries and call-ups. Ok, that's enough balanced commentary. Utica also had injuries and call-ups for the Canucks (another bad NHL team), yet there they are 14 points ahead of Laval. Perhaps it's because Trent Cull is that much better a coach than Sylvester the Cat.
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Post by blny on Feb 21, 2018 17:21:13 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 22, 2018 13:18:16 GMT -5
Rookie Jeremiah Addison is back on the ice with the Rocket wearing a no contact jersey. He had shoulder surgery and has missed the whole season and was scheduled to be back sometime in March. Looks like that is a possibility. At this point, it is just about him getting some games in this season and shaking off the rust as the Rocket won't be playing in the second season. Thanks Berg. Thanks Sly. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 22, 2018 14:58:08 GMT -5
Rookie Jeremiah Addison is back on the ice with the Rocket wearing a no contact jersey. He had shoulder surgery and has missed the whole season and was scheduled to be back sometime in March. Looks like that is a possibility. At this point, it is just about him getting some games in this season and shaking off the rust as the Rocket won't be playing in the second season. Thanks Berg. Thanks Sly. ...and all those call ups, and injuries, and if only Reway had worked out better. Sly is safe for life in the No Excuses (except for good ones that CYA) Foxhole. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 27, 2018 11:28:05 GMT -5
Rychel and Valiev have both been assigned to the Rocket. At least for now.
The Habs can call up four guys from the Rocket between now and the end of the season, so there are likely some that they will want to have a little peek at in the lineup before the season is over. The "most" likely probably include guys like McCarron, Rychel, Valiev and Lernout. They definitely don't have to bring the maximum of four up, but it will be interesting to see if they bring guys up for a short audition. McCarron has to clear waivers next year as do both of the newbies and all three are RFAs, so some contract decisions are pending on all three. Lernout still has one more year left in his ELC.
Back in Laval right now, Rychel is slotting in on wing on the top line with Terry and Cracknell. Basically taking Scherbak's place now that he has been called up.
Valiev is being paired with Lernout on the second pairing, as Parisi is the LHD on the top pairing with Gelinas while Taormina recovers from his injury. Both he and Addison are skating with non contact jerseys, so no imminent return yet.
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Post by duster on Feb 27, 2018 12:08:24 GMT -5
Rychel and Valiev will improve the team but that won't stop Sly from missing the playoffs yet again and getting another contract extension.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 2, 2018 22:27:45 GMT -5
Our newbies get their first points. Lost 4-2 though.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 3, 2018 11:51:03 GMT -5
Rocket are a mirror image of the Habs. Fourth from the bottom overall in a 30 team league. #ThanksSly.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 3, 2018 23:26:02 GMT -5
Laval win 5-4 in OT tonight.
1+1 nights for Rychel, Terry, Boucher and Waked.
Rychel has two goals and one assist in his first two games with the Rocket.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 7, 2018 22:54:44 GMT -5
Sly’s Guys lose again. 6-3 Bruins. Rychel with two goals in the loss, so he now has 4+1 in his first four games with Laval.
At some point, they could/should very well call him up for a looksie.
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Post by Anardil1 on Mar 8, 2018 10:08:37 GMT -5
I know that most of their "best" players are up with the big club, but man, this team is unwatchable. I can safely say that there is not one player on that roster that will get more than a cup of coffee in the NHL. I can't believe that they are still attracting more than respectable crowds, but mark my words, it won't last much longer if they don't get a massive infusion of future NHL talent.
I for one am not alone in placing much blame on Sly, but he hasn't really got much help from his foxhole buddies. Anyone who thinks that this organisation can turn this around quickly is delusional. The Habs are bereft of talent on all levels, that it will take more than a miracle kidnapping of John Tavares and a return to form of Price and Weber.
Bottom line is that the Habs are currently the Ballard era Leafs. As much as I hate the current state of the team, I will always watch, continue to participate and debate on this forum. I will not however open up my wallet for this team until I start to see something resembling a real turn of the current path. Hopefully, it will start this off season.
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Post by Cranky on Mar 8, 2018 13:22:50 GMT -5
I know that most of their "best" players are up with the big club, but man, this team is unwatchable. I can safely say that there is not one player on that roster that will get more than a cup of coffee in the NHL. I can't believe that they are still attracting more than respectable crowds, but mark my words, it won't last much longer if they don't get a massive infusion of future NHL talent. I for one am not alone in placing much blame on Sly, but he hasn't really got much help from his foxhole buddies. Anyone who thinks that this organisation can turn this around quickly is delusional. The Habs are bereft of talent on all levels, that it will take more than a miracle kidnapping of John Tavares and a return to form of Price and Weber. Bottom line is that the Habs are currently the Ballard era Leafs. As much as I hate the current state of the team, I will always watch, continue to participate and debate on this forum. I will not however open up my wallet for this team until I start to see something resembling a real turn of the current path. Hopefully, it will start this off season. We're all pretty much in the same boat. The Foxholians have turned HabsRus from somewhere we go to celebrate the team to a grief support group...... |
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