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Post by jkr on May 4, 2018 21:13:13 GMT -5
TB wins 4-3 in OT. Girardi, of all people, goes to the net & tips in a cross ice pass.
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Post by jkr on May 4, 2018 21:14:20 GMT -5
The two model NHL franchises for me right now. Just give the winner of this series the Cup already!! There is also a reason those two home rinks are absolutely crazy right now...they both play amazingly fun and good hockey. I sure hope Molson and Berg are taking good notes. P.S. I have not heard one Jets or Preds fan commenting on the quality of the hot dogs!!!!!  The amount of fans outside is crazy....Even if the Habs went to a cup final where would the fans stand outside... the condos are in the way... Shows you where Molson's priorities are. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 4, 2018 21:19:56 GMT -5
Marchand blatantly licked Callahan....no penalty. The ref was standing behind Callahan and didn't see it.
The SN panel--Hrudey, Kypreos, Friedman--completely disgusted with him.
Brian Burke says, "I guarantee you that's the last time you see that...."
Apparently, "gross misconduct" is a thing of the past....that's what they said, anyway....
He could still be suspended for it, though....surely!
Glad they're down 3-1....
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Post by folatre on May 4, 2018 21:30:03 GMT -5
Chau Boston. The Bruins are toast. The Lightning, no matter the crazy four month run the Bruins went on during the regular season, were always the class of the Atlantic division.
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 1:14:59 GMT -5
The Bruins have that one very good line and a lot of speed. They have Torey Krug who had a terrific year at the back end, a still solid Chara (though not elite), and up a coming top defenseman in McAvoy (who still makes mistakes of inexperience) and some generally solid goaltending. I'm not sure how that equated into as many points as they got but when you realize how key speed is, one can see that Boston has a ton of it and any flaws they have will show up only when they play an equally fast team. That is happening and the Bruins are down 3-1. Just imagine if the Lightning had won that first game in Tampa, in which they looked if not rusty, a little slow to get up to their normal playing pace. If they win that game, it's a sweep. Not over yet, of course, but Krug's injury will hurt them. He's been their best defenseman all year long. The blemishes in McQaid and Miller are going to show up now that Krug and Carlo are both missing. They are a decent team, but there's a lot of 4th line type guys playing above their pay scale...Acciari, Schaller, Heinen, Riley Nash, Kuraly. One could say they are up and coming guys, or they just had very good years which isn't continuing into the playoffs. Riley Nash had 41 points after never producing more than 25 in any other season. He's a UFA, so duh...be careful anyone who signs him and expects another 40 points next year.
Anyway, I thought the hockey gods were smiling on them this regular season, but those gods are fickle. Good to see Tampa beating them like they have.
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Post by jkr on May 5, 2018 7:07:22 GMT -5
Marchand blatantly licked Callahan....no penalty. The ref was standing behind Callahan and didn't see it. The SN panel--Hrudey, Kypreos, Friedman--completely disgusted with him. Brian Burke says, "I guarantee you that's the last time you see that...." Apparently, "gross misconduct" is a thing of the past....that's what they said, anyway.... He could still be suspended for it, though....surely! Glad they're down 3-1.... The league needs to do something about Marchand. He crosses the line all the time. That's why you see a play like James Neal kneeing him in the head a few years back. He's gross & if the league doesn't do something the players will. |
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Post by blny on May 5, 2018 11:03:00 GMT -5
He went beyond licking Callahan. Marchand's tongue actually went in his mouth. That's assault. Period. MacLean brought up work place harassment. Sports being sports, I don't think you get that charge if you were serious about it. Taunting and all the other stuff that goes on. If Tampa wanted to charge him with assault, I think it could stick. Brad needs professional help. When Chara is sitting with you on the bench after the incident and trying to be a voice of reason, you know things have gone sideways.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 5, 2018 11:34:24 GMT -5
The league needs to deal with Marchand. That is way over the line.
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Post by CentreHice on May 5, 2018 11:34:48 GMT -5
Agreed. Marchand has exhibited sociopathic behaviour throughout his career. If time isn’t up after that salacious display, then the Bruins really DO hold sway at NHL HQ.
IMO, he’s warranted significant time off with no pay. And all the lingual taunts that come his way.
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Post by jkr on May 5, 2018 11:43:13 GMT -5
This isn't even the first time he's done this in these playoffs. He went after Komorov with an open mouth attempt at his neck.
The guy is a sick douche. The league needs a strong response.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 5, 2018 12:03:06 GMT -5
Yeah, but this is the NHL. Jacobs does have a ton of clout as CH mentions. Is it enough?
I felt dirty cheering for that team against the Leafs. I am so much happier back in my despise mode for Marchand and the team.
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 12:17:48 GMT -5
Pierre Lebrun had a tweet on this and I replied:
"In other news, the Tampa Bay Lightning have announced the signing to a PTO, of Mick Jagger."
One of my wittier moments.
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Post by blny on May 5, 2018 12:55:19 GMT -5
Pierre Lebrun had a tweet on this and I replied: "In other news, the Tampa Bay Lightning have announced the signing to a PTO, of Mick Jagger." One of my wittier moments. I'd have gone with this: |
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 13:15:40 GMT -5
This is the one I had in mind:  |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 5, 2018 13:52:28 GMT -5
Im actually shocked anyone on CBC had the ballz to say something bad about Cherrys beloved Bruins. Did anyone on CBC say Marchand needs to play the right way.. like they said about PK?
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Post by franko on May 5, 2018 15:55:10 GMT -5
Im actually shocked anyone on CBC had the ballz to say something bad about Cherrys beloved Bruins. Did anyone on CBC say Marchand needs to play the right way.. like they said about PK? well they (was it Pang?) didn't say that PK should play the right way |
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Post by jkr on May 5, 2018 16:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 16:32:24 GMT -5
This is the Bettman/Campbell era. They'd probably give T-Rex a warning just before he ate them.
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Post by Skilly on May 5, 2018 17:32:00 GMT -5
So if I'm a Tampa player, I take that as carte Blanche to lick, nibble, spit at any Bruin player TWICE ... betcha no one else in the league would get three chances like Beaknose does.
He is the dirtiest player of his generation and is never considered a repeat offender because they never suspend him ... someone has to go public and call out the League on this BS
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 18:06:58 GMT -5
Skilly, the NHL has always had the Bruins' back. IMO, that's because Jacobs has a lot of clout on the B of G. It's not a legitimate, professional sports league..it's an old boys club. There are so many examples that they have the gladiator outlook in mind. They don't care about the players because they're just an item line on the expense category. Just look at the concussion issue and head shots. Bettman still publicly refuses to believe there's any connection between concussions and CTC. Any neanderthal would find the evidence overwhelming but for liability reasons, the league refuses to touch it. Fighting in the game has decreased, but it should have been banned years ago. There's no purpose to it. At least there wouldn't be if the game was officiated properly. Why do the refs "let them play" in the playoffs? That's not letting them play, it's letting the less skilled team get away with a lot more than they should. Why do refs officiate to balance out the penalty count? Are all teams so equal that they draw penalties at an equal rate? Of course not. The refs are told to keep the games conpetitive, so they call penalties based on the score and at the stage of the game.
We can't possibly expect them to do anything about any objectionable action of Marchands (he's a Bruin). The NBA kicks people out of games for 2 technicals or for a flagrant 2 foul. Major league baseball bans players for 6 months for first time banned drug violations. The NHL? Anything goes.
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Post by CentreHice on May 5, 2018 18:37:11 GMT -5
So if I'm a Tampa player, I take that as carte Blanche to lick, nibble, spit at any Bruin player TWICE ... betcha no one else in the league would get three chances like Beaknose does. He is the dirtiest player of his generation and is never considered a repeat offender because they never suspend him ... someone has to go public and call out the League on this BS But he has been suspended.....6 times...for a total of 19 games. (by my count). 2011--2 games--Elbowing R.J. Umberger. (Marchand's rookie season) 2012--5 games--Lowbridge on Sami Salo. 2015--2 games--Slewfoot on Derick Brassard. 2015--3 games--Clipping on Mark Borowiecki. 2017--2 games--Spearing (groin) on Jake Dotchin 2018--5 games--Flying elbow on Marcus Johansson. Amazing how a repeat offender gets such a random # of games....instead of an escalated amount. I have a feeling that he'd have been suspended for something like this during the regular season. But we can't upset Mr. Jacobs during the playoffs....  Marchand's beyond redemption....and the players are going to start taking matters into their own hands when the stakes are lower. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 5, 2018 18:51:46 GMT -5
The NHL has egg on its face right now ... they had an opportunity to deal with this on the ice and the officials blew it ... I think it might have been Kelly Hrudey who said that it should be treated like spitting ... I read on Twitter that Don Cherry thought that what Brad Marchand was doing was funny ... anyone else doing that isn't wearing a Bruins jersey, would be a disgrace to the game ... Bruins box having a conniption fit last night and all I could think of is whether Cam Neeley gets enough bran in his diet ... would like to know what Zdeno Chara said to Marchand last night ... Marchand didn't look too impressed ... here's rule: 23.8 Other Infractions That Could Result in a Game Misconduct - Refer to the Reference Tables – Table 10 – Summary of Game
Misconduct Penalties (page 139) for a list of the infractions that can
result in a game misconduct penalty being assessed (see specific rule
numbers for complete descriptions).
In addition, the following list of infractions can also result in a game
misconduct penalty being assessed:
(i) interfering with or striking a spectator.
(ii) racial taunts or slurs
(iii) spitting on or at an opponent or spectator |
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Post by CentreHice on May 5, 2018 19:14:11 GMT -5
My recommendation to the league.... 23.8 Other Infractions That Could Result in a Game Misconduct - Refer to the Reference Tables – Table 10 – Summary of Game
Misconduct Penalties (page 139) for a list of the infractions that can
result in a game misconduct penalty being assessed (see specific rule
numbers for complete descriptions).
In addition, the following list of infractions can also result in a game
misconduct penalty being assessed:
(i) interfering with or striking a spectator.
(ii) racial taunts or slurs
(iii) spitting on or at an opponent or spectator
(iv) delllllllllivering a Marchand
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Post by folatre on May 5, 2018 19:58:33 GMT -5
Good analysis of the Bruins, seventeen. I do not mean to say Boston is not an excellent team. All year, however, my impression was that Tampa had the superior roster built to go deeper in the playoffs.
Marchand is an embarrassment and the league's coddling of him is an embarrassment too. It is kind of a shame he did not play in an earlier era where retribution would have been swift for the crap he thinks he has the right to indulge in.
I know it is hard to police one's own guys, but frankly it does not impress me that Chara and Bergeron do not put an end to such an idiotic spectacle like this kissing and licking thing.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 5, 2018 21:08:54 GMT -5
Im actually shocked anyone on CBC had the ballz to say something bad about Cherrys beloved Bruins. Did anyone on CBC say Marchand needs to play the right way.. like they said about PK? well they (was it Pang?) didn't say that PK should play the right way Ya something like that. |
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 22:22:41 GMT -5
I have a feeling that he'd have been suspended for something like this during the regular season. But we can't upset Mr. Jacobs during the playoffs.... Marchand's beyond redemption....and the players are going to start taking matters into their own hands when the stakes are lower. If things go as they should, Mr. Jacobs can wander off and go suck on a soother somewhere as the Lightning move to the EC finals. That's the way to get back at them. Krug's injury is a crippling one for Boston (no pun intended). He's their best defenseman and they just don't have anyone to replace him. |
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Post by seventeen on May 5, 2018 22:27:33 GMT -5
I know it is hard to police one's own guys, but frankly it does not impress me that Chara and Bergeron do not put an end to such an idiotic spectacle like this kissing and licking thing. I agree. Then again, perhaps they've tried and Marchand just doesn't listen. From what I've heard (tweets and posts from people who grew up in the same town), he's been a spoiled brat his whole life and his kids are just like him. He's obviously been used to not having any natural consequences and that's not a good thing in life. You need those to teach you some lessons to avoid getting into situations where the consequences are fatal. If you expect traffic to stop for you every time you cross the road, there may come a time when it doesn't. |
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Post by jkr on May 6, 2018 6:52:33 GMT -5
Maybe something like the Neal knee to his head will happen again. I found this compilation of cheapshots on youtube. about 2 minutes to 2:45 you see the Neal hit on Marchand. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VEz9p8-L3sThis is what happens when the league does nothing. The players take it into their own hands. Too bad that Campbell is stupid enough to believe a stern taking to will work. They are all laughing at him, especialy Marchand. |
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Post by Skilly on May 6, 2018 8:09:23 GMT -5
So if I'm a Tampa player, I take that as carte Blanche to lick, nibble, spit at any Bruin player TWICE ... betcha no one else in the league would get three chances like Beaknose does. He is the dirtiest player of his generation and is never considered a repeat offender because they never suspend him ... someone has to go public and call out the League on this BS But he has been suspended.....6 times...for a total of 19 games. (by my count). 2011--2 games--Elbowing R.J. Umberger. (Marchand's rookie season) 2012--5 games--Lowbridge on Sami Salo. 2015--2 games--Slewfoot on Derick Brassard. 2015--3 games--Clipping on Mark Borowiecki. 2017--2 games--Spearing (groin) on Jake Dotchin 2018--5 games--Flying elbow on Marcus Johansson. Amazing how a repeat offender gets such a random # of games....instead of an escalated amount. I have a feeling that he'd have been suspended for something like this during the regular season. But we can't upset Mr. Jacobs during the playoffs.... Marchand's beyond redemption....and the players are going to start taking matters into their own hands when the stakes are lower. Ok , maybe I should elaborate . He has licked people before. But not suspended. He's done it twice in this series. He has lowbridged players countless times. But only one suspension. Because his next time he'd be a repeat offender. Same for slewfooting. If you look at your list, the only "big" suspension he received was when he WAS a repeat offender for elbowing. The NHL, as far as I can tell, only considers you a repeat offender by the transgression, not the summation of the dirt. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 6, 2018 8:15:08 GMT -5
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