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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 24, 2019 20:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on May 27, 2019 20:43:33 GMT -5
Entertaining game thus far.
Clifton should have gotten two for embellishment there. Oh well, the Bruins doing what the Bruins do.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 22:32:34 GMT -5
Blues were completely dominated from the 2nd period onward. But how does Krug not get a charging penalty in the third? He blasted all the way down the ice to hit any Blue he could see.
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Post by franko on May 28, 2019 5:39:23 GMT -5
Blues were completely dominated from the 2nd period onward. they'd better pick it up (I imagine they will) -- I have them winning the Cup in 6 -- and not just because I don't want the Bruins to win. Jeremy Jacobs influence. no, not really. Krug kinda glided at centre ice and then sped up for the hit, he wasn't full bore all the way down. |
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Post by jkr on May 28, 2019 6:26:50 GMT -5
Blues were completely dominated from the 2nd period onward. But how does Krug not get a charging penalty in the third? He blasted all the way down the ice to hit any Blue he could see. I thought the officiating in the 2nd was terrible with borderline calls on Thomas & Sundquist. But this is Kelly Sutherland, the genius that gave McAvoy a minor for a deliberate headshot during the Columbus series. It's frustrating to see the Blues go up by two, lose momentum because of penalties, & then get beaten by bottom 6 players like Kuraly. . |
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2019 7:43:00 GMT -5
Boston's won 8 straight.
There was one play in the third, with the Bruins up 3-2: Coyle was raking-over a Blue in the middle of the ice as he was skating into the St. Louis zone.
Both refs missed that...but called Sammy Blais for interference. I'm not sure if it was the same play or not, but it seems to me they missed what Coyle did. I was surprised when it wasn't 4-on-4.
And just before the Krug missile went looking for a target, he and Perron were allowed to have a lengthy wrestling match in front of Rask. I mean, there's battling for position in front of the net, and then there's a flat-out roughing call for both sides. Boston always seems to get the benefit of the doubt, don't they.....
Regardless, the Bruins are taking no prisoners...the Blues have to match that mindset.
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Post by BadCompany on May 28, 2019 8:27:38 GMT -5
It's going to suck when the Bruins win the Cup.
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 28, 2019 11:52:54 GMT -5
It's going to suck when the Bruins win the Cup. My goodness, the Blues aren't in the same league as Boston. And I don't think the Bruins are that great. Just a total egg laid by St. Louis in Game 1, but I can't see them turning it around to the extent needed to push this to 6-7 games. Depressing. I know the Habs benefited in 1993 with a relatively easy path to the Cup (Bruins losing in the 1st round to Buffalo, Pittsburgh losing to the Islanders in Round 2, Toronto losing to LA in Round 3), but at least most of the games were close all the way until the Cup clincher in Game 5. St Louis looks as easy to beat at Carolina did in the conference finals, or Columbus in the previous round. Capable of some good moments but ultimately Boston has had the answers. Toronto was as tough as it got for Boston and they managed to survive. The whole field just collapsed and Boston is just strolling to another Cup. Come on St. Louis. Make it a freaking series for God's sake! Ugh! |
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Post by folatre on May 28, 2019 12:42:39 GMT -5
I am not writing off the Blues yet. They were poor last night. But assuming Binnington hangs tough, I see the St. Louis veterans steadying the ship. Boston took advantage of the Blues' lack of discipline and they really took advantage of the Blues' third pair. Gunnarsson and Edmundson were very slow and passive.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 28, 2019 17:10:06 GMT -5
That momentum is hard to stop at this point. They have all the confidence in the world.  Come on Blues!! |
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Post by blny on May 28, 2019 17:33:23 GMT -5
That's about it for the Leafs' machine.  Am I missing a joke re: Bruins' support in Illinois? Blackhawks vs Blues. Old Norris rivalry.  |
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2019 21:43:24 GMT -5
That's about it for the Leafs' machine. Am I missing a joke re: Bruins' support in Illinois? Blackhawks vs Blues. Old Norris rivalry. Ah yes! Thanks! Even before that...when Chicago went to the West in 1970. Bowman's Blues had been to the Finals in their first 3 years....albeit representing the weaker division, as they were swept each time. That re-alignment threw a screw into that run....even though there were playoff cross-overs starting in Round 2 in 70-71. Which brings to mind: The Blues' franchise is now 0-13 in the Finals. |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 29, 2019 9:56:43 GMT -5
Good grief, CH, don't remind me. Bergevin never managed to interview #19 who possessed a tonne of relevant coaching experience (Robinson said his horse farm in Florida flooded that spring and he was momentarily unable to attend to professional matters such as interviews) because time was of the essence and God knows if one does not move expeditiously to hire JJ Daigneault the competition would snap him up in less than a week. QHDMP...obviously that decision was all about two things: first, Bergevin wanted to hire his childhood friend rather than the best man for the job; and second, Mr. Insecurity (Therrien) did not want an Assistant/Associate Coach who is a legend of the club and who won a Stanley Cup as a Head Coach casting a shadow over him. Robinson would have cast a shadow over Mr. character because we all know Mr. Robinson has CHaracter. |
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Post by blny on May 29, 2019 12:17:00 GMT -5
I understand not hiring someone because you have different views, ideas, etc. But to not even grant an interview, formal or otherwise, was flat out ridiculous.
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Post by jkr on May 29, 2019 20:20:35 GMT -5
What an embarrassing Coaches Corner. Cherry starts out by criticizing Sundquist for the hit that led to his penalty & then it goes downhill. He shows Chara getting cut on the wrist when blocking a shot . This leads to a series of ancient pictures of players wearing huge gloves, including Cherry. Then the big finish, pictures from the 70s of Cherry with his dog.
The relevance to the game, none of course. How many years are left on this dinosaurs contract?
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Post by folatre on May 29, 2019 20:47:17 GMT -5
Cherry should have been sent into retirement some time ago.
Interesting how all the pundits who say 'penalties that may well be called in the regular season are just not going to be called in the playoffs' have no comment on how or why the Bruins manage to have more powerplays on a per game basis than the regular season.
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Post by CentreHice on May 29, 2019 22:10:42 GMT -5
Out of the OT gate, the Blues dominated.
Series tied at 1.
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Post by folatre on May 29, 2019 22:13:49 GMT -5
Nice one!! Not sure if that was deflected or not but St. Louis came out on their toes and tilted the ice pretty good there in OT.
Maybe the Blues can build on this back at home.
As an aside, what is with Backes? I respect him. He has been a very good two-way forward in the league for a long time. But my God he is going down so easily in this series. Here in OT he tried, shamelessly I think, to draw yet another call.
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Post by folatre on May 29, 2019 22:47:22 GMT -5
Krug is a still a young guy and very good d-man (#2 or #3) in today's league. I like his game a lot and he stands to make a big UFA payday next summer provided he does not take too many more crushing hits. He already has a concussion history.
I love his competitiveness but he is pushing the envelope. Tonight the Blues really targeted him and drilled him hard.
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Post by Boston_Habs on May 30, 2019 7:57:47 GMT -5
That was obviously the game you wanted to see from St. Louis. The teams are pretty similar in terms of style and talent, Boston's top guys are better, but the Blues are possibly a bit deeper and Tarasenko is at a high level.
Still think the Bruins can beat you in more ways, elite guys at the top, their PP has been lethal, Rask has been solid throughout, while it seems the Blues have to work harder at their game and hope Binnington holds up.
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Post by blny on May 30, 2019 8:31:29 GMT -5
That was obviously the game you wanted to see from St. Louis. The teams are pretty similar in terms of style and talent, Boston's top guys are better, but the Blues are possibly a bit deeper and Tarasenko is at a high level. Still think the Bruins can beat you in more ways, elite guys at the top, their PP has been lethal, Rask has been solid throughout, while it seems the Blues have to work harder at their game and hope Binnington holds up. I haven't watched either game because I don't want to get invested in a game that starts at 9pm my time. I think the two teams match up pretty equally. ROR is to Bergeron as Marchand is to Tarasenko. I think they become a wash in the crunch. I like the Blues' depth with Schenn and Perron there. Both can score and agitate. Thomas, Sunqvist and Maroon give them good middle six options. I think it will come down to goal tending. Rask has played the best hockey of his career these playoffs. Binnington has been good when he needs to be. I didn't like the two goals he allowed last night though. Classic paddle whiff on the first one, and he overplayed the second one expecting a move that didn't materialize and it opened his 5-hole. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 30, 2019 8:46:39 GMT -5
That was obviously the game you wanted to see from St. Louis. The teams are pretty similar in terms of style and talent, Boston's top guys are better, but the Blues are possibly a bit deeper and Tarasenko is at a high level. Still think the Bruins can beat you in more ways, elite guys at the top, their PP has been lethal, Rask has been solid throughout, while it seems the Blues have to work harder at their game and hope Binnington holds up. The Blues started playing the way they did vs. San Jose. Go go go...hitting with purpose on key personnel. I'd like nothing more than to see Marchand's sullen face in the handshake queue. |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 30, 2019 9:45:16 GMT -5
I'd like nothing more than to see Marchand's sullen face in the handshake queue. in Boston.... and Jacobs looking pissed off, Chara retiring after losing in the cup final... That's my 2019 Stanley Cup dream. |
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Post by folatre on May 30, 2019 13:27:55 GMT -5
It is a shame what happened to Grzelcyk. I watched it a couple of more times over lunch and it seems like he wanted to get 'in and out' so fast that he lost an edge, which changed the angle of his upper body at the last second and Sundqvist was committed to the hit.
I know that a lot of smallish blueliners are taught to play the speed game and retrieve pucks out of the corner at the top speed and avoid the forechecker altogether. I think this is what Grzelcyk ideally wanted to pull off but it all went wrong. Back when I learned to play hockey the coaches taught us to hustle back, scan for the location of players on both teams, brace yourself for a hit, and commence with the puck battle.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 31, 2019 7:22:03 GMT -5
It is a shame what happened to Grzelcyk. I watched it a couple of more times over lunch and it seems like he wanted to get 'in and out' so fast that he lost an edge, which changed the angle of his upper body at the last second and Sundqvist was committed to the hit. I know that a lot of smallish blueliners are taught to play the speed game and retrieve pucks out of the corner at the top speed and avoid the forechecker altogether. I think this is what Grzelcyk ideally wanted to pull off but it all went wrong. Back when I learned to play hockey the coaches taught us to hustle back, scan for the location of players on both teams, brace yourself for a hit, and commence with the puck battle. lol... what a joke the NHL is... I guess Jacobs influence rears it's ugly head again. Sundqvist is suspended 1 game, but the Bruins get away with cheap shots all playoffs long and nothing. What an absolute bush league! |
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Post by jkr on May 31, 2019 9:21:28 GMT -5
I think McAvoy got suspended for that hit in the Columbus game.
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Post by folatre on Jun 1, 2019 19:31:29 GMT -5
Intense first minute, jeje. Blais got up pretty high in Backes' face but in real time it did not look like a penalty. Man, DeBrusk is a nice young player but he is kind of dirty. That knee is probably going to bring the game to a boiling point even quicker than I thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 19:51:02 GMT -5
Special teams may bury the Blues. Bruins are scoring on the PP, but the Blues haven't thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 20:01:22 GMT -5
I remember when hits from behind were penalties. I've seen a lot of them this period...
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Post by folatre on Jun 1, 2019 20:01:32 GMT -5
Very true. The Blues need to stay out of the box.
It is strange, though. There is a perception that the officiating in the playoffs is swallow the whistles and let them play. But that perception is not in line with the empirical reality. Boston is averaging one powerplay attempt every 13 minutes in this series.
Just off the top of my head I would say plenty of clubs do not average a powerplay attempt that frequently even in the regular season.
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