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Post by seventeen on Aug 5, 2019 16:55:44 GMT -5
For the record, Alexis Gravel is 6'3. But he plays small.  |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 5, 2019 17:09:56 GMT -5
[True, you don’t want Romanov pulling off a dancing bear act in the NHL, because most NHLers are mosh-pit aficionados, and not waltzers. They’ll just knock you on you’re a** and then thank you for the puck. My bet is the next NHL'r who thinks Romanov is a dancing bear will end up on HIS butt. Kid is a freak of nature strong. A 6', 25 year old Chara. Here is why I liked that play; Everybody has been saying that Romanov is a “defensive defenseman”. Great. Defensemen are supposed to play defense. Rarely, if ever, have you heard somebody say “he takes too many risks, he’s too offensive”. People also always say “it’s a lot easier to teach defense than it is to teach offense” and while I don’t think that’s 100% true – some guys never learn how to play defense – it’s not completely false either. The scouting reports say he can do the defense thing, so if he’s experimenting – and succeeding – with some offensive instincts, then all the better. Let him push the boundaries in a meaningless tournament. It’s easier to coach that out of him if he clearly doesn’t know what he is doing, as opposed to trying to teach him how to do it in the first place. In that one play he looked fast, decisive, and offensively inclined. For a guy who some dismiss as the next Alexie Emelin that’s a very positive thing. I loved that play because the other team isn't expecting it. He came within a puck touch of getting past that last guy. My concern is mostly Julien and Bergevin who might see that as the second coming of Subban. "Ice the puck! Ice the Puck! Nice goal, Alex but next time, Ice the Puck!"
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 6, 2019 9:03:06 GMT -5
My concern is mostly Julien and Bergevin who might see that as the second coming of Subban. [/div]
That's a loaded question, 17.
The modern NHL game increasingly relies on dmen not just to be effective "puck movers" from the back, but to be vital cogs in the offense in all 3 zones. There was a great pieces in EOTP about how Tampa uses it's dmen in the o-zone better than anyone to pinch down, pressure the defensive formation, and find good passing options. That requires a forward to move high and, potentially, be forced to backpedal the other way but Tampa has a dynamic offense that is relentless in finding and exploiting advantages in the o-zone and the D is a huge part of that.
The Habs were one of the better 5v5 teams last year so it's not like there is only one way, but we know our management and coaching are VERY traditional when it comes to the role of dmen. That was no more evident in the Subban-Weber trade. I think part of that trade was because Bergevin valued Weber's game more than he valued Subban's game. Stay at home, clear the crease, big shot from the point. Ice the puck and no freelancing, which was a big part of PK's game and I'd say a big part of the modern, pro offensive game.
You can see how versatility and shifting positions are big part of what is happening in the NBA. The days of the prototypical center, point guard, shooting guard are gone, as teams are using more ball movement, spreading the floor, and "positionless basketball" to gain advantage.
Of course there are rules and dynamics of hockey, but I increasingly like seeing the puck move to the point in the o-zone and letting the dmen find an alley to move down the wall and disrupt the defense rather than watching forwards with their backs to the play cycle the puck and pretty much play into the hands of the defense.
I like some of the pieces Berg has assembled, at least in terms of potential, but we need more talent on the back end and willingness from management and coaching to unleash the D to be more important cogs, Maybe that's what they are doing with Romanov.
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 6, 2019 11:43:14 GMT -5
Only issue is that Romanov is not being coached by anyone in the Habs org, so he is being taught differently. When he comes over, he is going to take a whole season to be reprogrammeds/brainwashed if he wants to stay in the lineup.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 7, 2019 0:22:28 GMT -5
That's a loaded question, 17. The modern NHL game increasingly relies on dmen not just to be effective "puck movers" from the back, but to be vital cogs in the offense in all 3 zones. There was a great pieces in EOTP about how Tampa uses it's dmen in the o-zone better than anyone to pinch down, pressure the defensive formation, and find good passing options. That requires a forward to move high and, potentially, be forced to backpedal the other way but Tampa has a dynamic offense that is relentless in finding and exploiting advantages in the o-zone and the D is a huge part of that. The Habs were one of the better 5v5 teams last year so it's not like there is only one way, but we know our management and coaching are VERY traditional when it comes to the role of dmen. That was no more evident in the Subban-Weber trade. I think part of that trade was because Bergevin valued Weber's game more than he valued Subban's game. Stay at home, clear the crease, big shot from the point. Ice the puck and no freelancing, which was a big part of PK's game and I'd say a big part of the modern, pro offensive game. You can see how versatility and shifting positions are big part of what is happening in the NBA. The days of the prototypical center, point guard, shooting guard are gone, as teams are using more ball movement, spreading the floor, and "positionless basketball" to gain advantage. Of course there are rules and dynamics of hockey, but I increasingly like seeing the puck move to the point in the o-zone and letting the dmen find an alley to move down the wall and disrupt the defense rather than watching forwards with their backs to the play cycle the puck and pretty much play into the hands of the defense. I like some of the pieces Berg has assembled, at least in terms of potential, but we need more talent on the back end and willingness from management and coaching to unleash the D to be more important cogs, Maybe that's what they are doing with Romanov. I was exaggerating to make a point, but I should also point out that a lot has changed since June 2016 at least in the coaching ranks. Julien never had the chance to coach PK and Richardson didn’t either. I’d say both would appreciate that style much more than Therrien or Bergevin. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 17, 2019 11:46:31 GMT -5
We can file this under “that sucks” category.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 17, 2019 13:38:54 GMT -5
Oh sure, why not wipe out almost a season from a 20 year old. "sigh"
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 22, 2019 15:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Aug 23, 2019 8:35:51 GMT -5
Hopefully Hillis stays healthy this season. If my memory serves me correctly, I actually liked Hillis considerably more than McShane and Fonstad.
Time will say (and thankfully the Habs are blessed with plenty of good young centre depth), but I would consider these guys long shots to establish themselves in the NHL.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 23, 2019 12:58:27 GMT -5
Hopefully Hillis stays healthy this season. If my memory serves me correctly, I actually liked Hillis considerably more than McShane and Fonstad. Time will say (and thankfully the Habs are blessed with plenty of good young centre depth), but I would consider these guys long shots to establish themselves in the NHL. Those three are definitely longshots, but I would like to see what a fully healthy Hillis can do (or what a McShane could do if his skating improved). |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 23, 2019 13:00:13 GMT -5
Pretty quiet on the prospect front even though there are some preseason events happening.
Here is some nice work by Ylonen in a preseason game today. He is #72 in the Pelicans' light blue jerseys. Sweet mitts on the goal.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2019 16:33:56 GMT -5
I liked his patience on the goal. A high panic threshhold is a big factor for me.
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 25, 2019 8:28:36 GMT -5
Pretty quiet on the prospect front even though there are some preseason events happening. Here is some nice work by Ylonen in a preseason game today. He is #72 in the Pelicans' light blue jerseys. Sweet mitts on the goal. You been watching 4 nations tourney? I watched Russia/Czech the other night. Romanov was all over the ice, he is a beauty to watch skate. He didn't get a lot of time on the PP but did on the PK. If another trade with Vegas ever comes up try to acquire Morozov. He was impressive. Czeck best player was Martin Lang. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 27, 2019 16:24:10 GMT -5
More on Hillis, this time with comments from his coach/GM.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 27, 2019 21:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 28, 2019 10:37:20 GMT -5
The Habs' official site have had some fun with this. See below. Also, if you see the video of the draft floor when the Habs are picking 15th, it is Caufield's name that they jump to immediately. I am sure they had Krebs highly ranked, as TT did mention it was between two players that they did not expect to be available at 15 (those are the real obvious choices). Krebs would have ticked a lot of their boxes too, despite the late injury/surgery. I actually thought we might get a sniff at Krebs but not Caufield. What I did not expect was that sudden run of defensemen before we picked (thank goodness for that). |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 28, 2019 10:41:07 GMT -5
Caufield is back in Vancouver (from where he was drafted) training with the Wisconsin Badgers as they prepare for a pair of exhibition games against UBC this upcoming weekend. I expect Lower Mainland Habs fans will be packing the place this weekend.
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 28, 2019 14:53:13 GMT -5
We need him to become our Patrick Kane / Mitch Marner. Small in stature, but a hell of a good player.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 29, 2019 2:33:17 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong,,,,,but.....
I've said this before...I'm not impressed by overachieving juniors that are one dimensional. Be it because of size, shot or speed. That evaporates in a hurry at the NHL level.
Those 2-3 second look-see shots Caulfield use to take will be gone in one second at the NHL level. Then after the shot, a 220 mountain will hit him. Hard. Repeatedly. Guaranteed.
He better get use to lots of energy drinks and pain killers because other high scores in his size range, like Marchand and Gally, who are 25 pounds bigger then him, they buy that in bulk. Both are use to visiting the ice, face first.
If not, say hello to David "Ima KHL star" Desharnais v2.
And just for the record, DD scored 38 and 108 points in Juniors.
Just saying...
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Post by Cranky on Aug 29, 2019 2:39:12 GMT -5
People always tend to gravitate to shinier objects. If I'm making a hammer, or weapons to win a playoff run, I prefer titanium over gold....
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Post by BadCompany on Aug 29, 2019 10:23:05 GMT -5
Speaking of softies, here's one of our great hopes, Ryan Poehling, playing air guitar and lip synching at a Shawn Mendes concert in Montreal recently. Video taken and posted by another one of our great hopes, Josh Brook. Sigh. Either I'm really old, or Shea Weber has his work cut out for him.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 29, 2019 12:06:30 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong,,,,,but..... I've said this before...I'm not impressed by overachieving juniors that are one dimensional. Be it because of size, shot or speed. That evaporates in a hurry at the NHL level. Those 2-3 second look-see shots Caulfield use to take will be gone in one second at the NHL level. Then after the shot, a 220 mountain will hit him. Hard. Repeatedly. Guaranteed. He better get use to lots of energy drinks and pain killers because other high scores in his size range, like Marchand and Gally, who are 25 pounds bigger then him, they buy that in bulk. Both are use to visiting the ice, face first. If not, say hello to David "Ima KHL star" Desharnais v2. And just for the record, DD scored 38 and 108 points in Juniors. Just saying... Another Theon Fleury, or another Alfie Turcotte ... dunno ... Cheers. |
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Post by folatre on Aug 29, 2019 12:11:02 GMT -5
I feel old too. Shawn Mendes, jeje.
I hope Weber or Gallagher is controlling the music in the room. But who knows, kids will just have their AirPods in all the time.
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 30, 2019 15:40:02 GMT -5
Speaking of softies, here's one of our great hopes, Ryan Poehling, playing air guitar and lip synching at a Shawn Mendes concert in Montreal recently. Video taken and posted by another one of our great hopes, Josh Brook. Sigh. Either I'm really old, or Shea Weber has his work cut out for him. These guys are basically kids. That's why you start their NHL career with great leaders in Weber/Price should benefit them and the team of course. Gives them maximum start to their career. Leaders who teach by great work ethic and character. Habs had one of youngest teams in NHL last year and their farm system is deep. Over next few years be seeing high end skill coming onto team. With proper leadership we have should benefit. Next 3-8 years Habs should be solid team. Can't see it not working really. |
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 30, 2019 15:42:22 GMT -5
I would guess offense why Timmins took Caufield. Unless Krebs injury is worst then I know of. I don't know, all I have is 3rd hand information. I can remember seeing Krebs hobbling around at the draft. Maybe that played a role in him sliding, I had him in the top 10. Either pick would have been great thou. Game is evolving towards small, skill and speed like Caufield. Because small, speedy guys with great hands easier to get lost in small areas of open ice more. They can slip into those little seams in offensive zone. Reminds me of a guy like Debrinkat. Who scored 41 last year as a 20/21 year old. With 28 goals the year before as a rookie. I think Caufield could match or exceed his production. Caufield has better release and power on his shot than Debrinkat. Struble is the guy I wanted with our 2nd pick. Praying we would pick him after seeing combine results. First round I judge on skill, in later round I use a cross of skill/stats/cmbine. With the 2nd round pick we acquire in Pacioretty trade I wanted Dorofeyev. I wouldn't have traded down. Especially, wanted to pick Dorofeyev when he was still there at 77. Timmins though other wise and chose Fairbrother. I hope we get something back in Fairbrother because it could sting. Chance Dorofeyev is a good player. Timmins has a knack of picking good defensemen in later rounds. Hope he is right this time. |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 30, 2019 22:56:48 GMT -5
I would guess offense why Timmins took Caufield. Unless Krebs injury is worst then I know of. I don't know, all I have is 3rd hand information. I can remember seeing Krebs hobbling around at the draft. Maybe that played a role in him sliding, I had him in the top 10. Either pick would have been great thou. Game is evolving towards small, skill and speed like Caufield. Because small, speedy guys with great hands easier to get lost in small areas of open ice more. They can slip into those little seams in offensive zone. Reminds me of a guy like Debrinkat. Who scored 41 last year as a 20/21 year old. With 28 goals the year before as a rookie. I think Caufield could match or exceed his production. Caufield has better release and power on his shot than Debrinkat. Struble is the guy I wanted with our 2nd pick. Praying we would pick him after seeing combine results. First round I judge on skill, in later round I use a cross of skill/stats/cmbine. With the 2nd round pick we acquire in Pacioretty trade I wanted Dorofeyev. I wouldn't have traded down. Especially, wanted to pick Dorofeyev when he was still there at 77. Timmins though other wise and chose Fairbrother. I hope we get something back in Fairbrother because it could sting. Chance Dorofeyev is a good player. Timmins has a knack of picking good defensemen in later rounds. Hope he is right this time. I saw more video of the Habs draft table and at one point I think they were discussing that the two guys (Caufield and Krebs) were falling and the point came up that they needed scoring and hey were already pretty good at centre. I concur. They had Caufield as their pick while there were still 4 or 5 teams to choose ahead of them, so it wasn't a last minute decision. For all it's worth I would have taken Caufield too because with KK, Poehling, Danault, Oloffson, possibly Suzuki already at centre (I'm assuming the team eventually moves Domi to LW), they needed a sniper more than another good centre (Krebs will likely be better than Poehling but not as good as KK). |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 1, 2019 8:18:49 GMT -5
I would guess offense why Timmins took Caufield. Unless Krebs injury is worst then I know of. I don't know, all I have is 3rd hand information. I can remember seeing Krebs hobbling around at the draft. Maybe that played a role in him sliding, I had him in the top 10. Either pick would have been great thou. Game is evolving towards small, skill and speed like Caufield. Because small, speedy guys with great hands easier to get lost in small areas of open ice more. They can slip into those little seams in offensive zone. Reminds me of a guy like Debrinkat. Who scored 41 last year as a 20/21 year old. With 28 goals the year before as a rookie. I think Caufield could match or exceed his production. Caufield has better release and power on his shot than Debrinkat. Struble is the guy I wanted with our 2nd pick. Praying we would pick him after seeing combine results. First round I judge on skill, in later round I use a cross of skill/stats/cmbine. With the 2nd round pick we acquire in Pacioretty trade I wanted Dorofeyev. I wouldn't have traded down. Especially, wanted to pick Dorofeyev when he was still there at 77. Timmins though other wise and chose Fairbrother. I hope we get something back in Fairbrother because it could sting. Chance Dorofeyev is a good player. Timmins has a knack of picking good defensemen in later rounds. Hope he is right this time. Yeah, I was really hoping for Dorofeyev at 77. His skating needs work, but he has loads of puck and offensive skills. Churla did referenced that Fairbrother was a “hard nosed kid” and TT told Berg he had a hard shot. Both are true, but Dorofeyev was a great value at 77 considering his offensive upside. As always, we shall see. I am still perplexed about Berg’s obsession with moving down, especially with a good pick like the 50th. You can see him talking about it lots with TT and on the phone with GMs in that latest video. I get it if you have very few picks, but the Habs have had the most picks of any team over the last two years and now have 12 for next year. That just ends up being more guys you cannot offer ELCs to due to the contract limits. The quality over quantity concept does not seem to be high on Berg’s priorities. Accumulating 4 fifth round picks at some point is not really a coup. Will the fans in the Bell Centre really care if they hear Timmins mention 9 or 10 names on Day 2 of the 2020 draft that most have never heard of? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 1, 2019 8:20:47 GMT -5
Some analysis of Romanov’s recent play at a four team U20 tourney hosted in Russia. He starts his KHL season today as CSKA’s 7th defender.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 1, 2019 8:24:36 GMT -5
Goal Caufield scored a goal for Wisconsin in their exhibition game against UBC last night and Habs fans almost broke twitter lol. Real hockey cannot come fast enough!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 1, 2019 20:56:38 GMT -5
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