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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 23, 2020 12:59:51 GMT -5
This means that next season could be the third in a row where the Habs do not have a dedicated ECHL team, unless they affiliate with a team for a year pending what could happen in Trois-Rivieres. McNiven who has not played nearly enough and has bounced between three different ECHL teams is a case in point why this mess needs to end. There was even a point this season where the Habs were unaware that he had nowhere to train for a while when his past ECHL team ended up with three goalies and he was the odd man out and removed off the roster (as the two other goalies were prospects of the team with whom they affiliated).
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2020 13:40:22 GMT -5
Small part of overall development, perhaps, but another indication that player development in the Habs organization does not have a high priority. Using McNiven as an example, he's a goalie and they develop more slowly than other skaters, but they need games, even if they're ECHL games. No other organization is going to set aside their guys to help the Habs out. So McNiven is stuck in never never land. Kinkaid (Alzner 2.0 in success terms) is holding back a kid. Hmmm, never seen that before.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 23, 2020 18:50:30 GMT -5
The Norfolk Admirals are independant... why not make an agreement with them
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 24, 2020 10:34:52 GMT -5
This is actually a very telling stat. Not exactly developing a culture of winning at the farm team by any means. On a side note, 8 of those 10 years have been under Berg's watch.
The Rocket are in a great battle right now. Tough and tight division, that should go down to the wire. Every divisional game has extra importance, like tonight's tilt against third place Rochester.
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Post by folatre on Jan 24, 2020 11:15:28 GMT -5
It is a little mystifying why Molson trusts the draft and development plan put forward by a guy with a pretty woeful record of drafting and developing through eight years.
Montreal is really behind the times. It is one thing to not be an innovative organization or even one of the early adopters of someone else's innovation, but this idea of internally aligning three tiers (NHL, AHL, ECHL) is old news and even the stragglers have got on the bandwagon.
McNiven should ask for a trade or the termination of his contract.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2020 12:49:58 GMT -5
This is actually a very telling stat. Not exactly developing a culture of winning at the farm team by any means. On a side note, 8 of those 10 years have been under Berg's watch. The Rocket are in a great battle right now. Tough and tight division, that should go down to the wire. Every divisional game has extra importance, like tonight's tilt against third place Rochester. It's called the "Sly Effect"... loosely translated... when you're buddy is the boss, wins and losses dont matter |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2020 13:08:20 GMT -5
This means that next season could be the third in a row where the Habs do not have a dedicated ECHL team, unless they affiliate with a team for a year pending what could happen in Trois-Rivieres. McNiven who has not played nearly enough and has bounced between three different ECHL teams is a case in point why this mess needs to end. There was even a point this season where the Habs were unaware that he had nowhere to train for a while when his past ECHL team ended up with three goalies and he was the odd man out and removed off the roster (as the two other goalies were prospects of the team with whom they affiliated). So basically, they want their affiliates in Quebec... I get that for the Rocket because if you need an emergency call up for a home game they can drive to the arena and if you're out of town, you're not far from a major international airport, but for an echl team, does it really matter? Could they not have affiliated with a team already in the echl? It also shows a lack of class by not giving your signed players a place to play... its embarrasing |
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Post by Cranky on Jan 24, 2020 13:55:31 GMT -5
Obviously you people are WAY behind the times. Bbinz has a new development method called...ProxyGain....where a player learns from standing next to superstars like himself.
In fact, he stands besides our defenseman and they absorb his superstar energy and talent. Twice as fast if he lays his hand on their head.
The results speak for themselves...
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Post by Cranky on Jan 24, 2020 13:59:21 GMT -5
So basically, they want their affiliates in Quebec... I get that for the Rocket because if you need an emergency call up for a home game they can drive to the arena and if you're out of town, you're not far from a major international airport, but for an echl team, does it really matter? Yes it does. Have you seen the price of EconoBus fares? I'm perturbed at the lack of respect you have for Mr Mol$ons wallet. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 24, 2020 15:33:04 GMT -5
Pezzetta clearly knows his role on the team for when he gets to play.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 24, 2020 16:12:30 GMT -5
So basically, they want their affiliates in Quebec... I get that for the Rocket because if you need an emergency call up for a home game they can drive to the arena and if you're out of town, you're not far from a major international airport, but for an echl team, does it really matter? Yes it does. Have you seen the price of EconoBus fares? I'm perturbed at the lack of respect you have for Mr Mol$ons wallet. That, literally, is the only reason I can think of. A dozen times a year you have to pay for a player to travel from the AHL team to the ECHL team and vice versa. If the ECHL club is in Quebec, the player can hitchhike betweeen cities or if its an emergency call up, take the bus. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2020 19:48:21 GMT -5
Pezzetta clearly knows his role on the team for when he gets to play. Call him up! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 24, 2020 19:49:26 GMT -5
So basically, they want their affiliates in Quebec... I get that for the Rocket because if you need an emergency call up for a home game they can drive to the arena and if you're out of town, you're not far from a major international airport, but for an echl team, does it really matter? Yes it does. Have you seen the price of EconoBus fares? I'm perturbed at the lack of respect you have for Mr Mol$ons wallet. They can take the MegaBus $1 |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 2, 2020 8:43:16 GMT -5
Laval continue to you-know-what the bed against division leading Belleville this weekend. A 4-3 loss on Friday was followed up by a game they let get away on them. Up 4-1 with just over half a period to play should be money in the bank. Enter defensive miscues, dubious goaltending from Kinkaid, and there goes a critical point after a 5-4 OT loss. KK played his first game and had an assist.
And then there is this from Bouchard.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 2, 2020 11:17:28 GMT -5
I wonder who he is talking about? I can't see Fleury, Barber, Peca causing stuff.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 2, 2020 21:08:51 GMT -5
Is he sounding like Lefebvre?
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Post by folatre on Feb 2, 2020 21:28:28 GMT -5
Those home ice losses to Belleville surely have Bouchard frustrated.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2020 6:16:44 GMT -5
Have I mentioned I love this kid... I bookmarked this... |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 3, 2020 6:24:43 GMT -5
I wonder who he is talking about? I can't see Fleury, Barber, Peca causing stuff. Could it be the vets, Alzner, Folin and Kinkaid? |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 3, 2020 8:14:19 GMT -5
Here are the highlights (and lowlights). 3 goals in the last 5:45 to give up a 4-1 lead, including the tying goal from behind the goal line with 8 seconds left. Then the fourth straight goal against in OT where KKinkaid gives up several rebounds to the Sens dude who finally pots the winner.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 3, 2020 12:28:15 GMT -5
Let's see.
Habs have Primeau (and McNiven) who need to play and are the future of the teams goaltending. Habs have Kinkaid, who has turned into a bad signing, is classed as sunk costs and whose contract expires at the end of this season. Primeau is playing well most of the time and winning games. Kinkaid is not and is losing gamrs.
Reasons to play Primeau (at least) and Mcniven- LOTS
Reasons to pay Kinkaid - justify salary.
I don't know...what else is there to say?
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 5, 2020 17:02:18 GMT -5
Laval currently has three goalies (Kinkaid, Primeau and McNiven). Looks like McNiven gets his first AHL start tonight. Good for him, as the Habs have sure bounced him around the ECHL this season. Hope he has a good game, as Utica has a lot of firepower with 5 of the top 17 point leaders in the AHL. Laval's defense will need to tighten up (Fleury especially has been quite porous since being sent down) and goaltending needs to be a few notches better.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 5, 2020 22:54:29 GMT -5
I read updates on Michael McNiven here and on Twitter and I'm glad this kid never got lost in the shuffle ... I remember when the organization invited him to the 2015 rookie camp ... they signed him as a 17-year-old FA soon after that ... he dropped on the talent list when they drafted Cayden Primeau but I like the fact he's still with the organization somewhere ... pretty busy goaltender of late and he seems good with all of it ...
Cheers.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 5, 2020 23:37:03 GMT -5
Huge win for the Rocket and McNiven. 5-4 in OT. McNiven with 31 saves. KK with 3 apples. Hudon and Evans with two goals and an assist. Ouellet with the GWG and three assists.
Hey Dipietro, thanks for coming out.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 6, 2020 17:57:44 GMT -5
For those keeping tabs on the injuries affecting the Rocket. A very long list, but Belzile is a huge loss as the team's top forward for the last two seasons. Hopefully Vejdemo is back soon as he has been playing very good hockey for Laval this season. Juulsen is a big loss as well, but that has been well documented and discussed.
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Post by Cranky on Feb 7, 2020 15:43:25 GMT -5
What is the latest on Juulsen?
The fact that his headaches are keeping him out means that they may get triggered by movement, which sad to say, his career is over.
I was thinking about this a few days ago....and just a comment from my history with headaches...
I wasn't bothered by any level of physical exertion (3x a week for 2 hours), including fighting (karate) competitions, but the minute I played Doom, a first player shooter game that required concentration on movement, I was done for the next several hours with POUNDING headaches. (I never played these kinds of games again even though I haven't had a headache in a looong time, yet, I'm not going to test that)
Pure speculation and projection here, but unlike fighting, a few dispersed 3-4 minute of extreme physicality, a hockey player is subject to a few hours of fast moving "objects" and "stress". Which would be a surefire issue IF he has motion triggered migraines.
I HOPE I'M WRONG and he just lost a season on the way to a long career.
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Post by seventeen on Feb 7, 2020 16:08:05 GMT -5
It's a known fact. Video games are bad for your health.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 9, 2020 0:59:44 GMT -5
Belleville suck. They are the Rocket’s kryptonite. 3-2 in OT. Hudon and Barber with the goals. KK with assists on both goals. That is six in three games. Development.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 9, 2020 15:03:38 GMT -5
A reminder that the Rocket are on TSN2 in an hour (4:00pm ET) against the Marlies.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 9, 2020 16:13:53 GMT -5
Wow... the D leave a leafer alone in front of Kinkaid, who can't control the puck and 1 zip after 45 seconds
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