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Post by mikeg on Apr 15, 2020 8:49:59 GMT -5
Hopefully this happens!
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 15, 2020 12:40:36 GMT -5
Thus is fantastic news.
I was concerned about his royal background in the KHL and they gave lots of cash money. But on the other hand, if there will be a world wide recession andthe KHL itself may be in danger.
If I was Bbinz, I'd open discussion with whoever's is the best player in the KHL. Given the odds of a KHL collapse, it's smart business. (Yes, smart and Bbinz oin the same sentence.)
Then again, Bbinz is no Pollock.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 15, 2020 14:11:39 GMT -5
Thus is fantastic news. I was concerned about his royal background in the KHL and they gave lots of cash money. But on the other hand, if there will be a world wide recession andthe KHL itself may be in danger. If I was Bbinz, I'd open discussion with whoever's is the best player in the KHL. Given the odds of a KHL collapse, it's smart business. (Yes, smart and Bbinz oin the same sentence.) Then again, Bbinz is no Pollock. But Bbinz is a pillock... Brits will know what it means
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 15, 2020 14:25:56 GMT -5
Thus is fantastic news. I was concerned about his royal background in the KHL and they gave lots of cash money. But on the other hand, if there will be a world wide recession andthe KHL itself may be in danger. If I was Bbinz, I'd open discussion with whoever's is the best player in the KHL. Given the odds of a KHL collapse, it's smart business. (Yes, smart and Bbinz oin the same sentence.) Then again, Bbinz is no Pollock. Depends on what you mean by "best" player in the KHL. Top five scoring forwards:1) Vadim Shipachyov: Flamed out spectacularly after three games with Vegas a couple of years ago. 2) Dmitrij Jaskin: Interesting reclamation option I guess, but his 69 points in 303 career NHL games doesn't inspire a great deal of hope. 3) Kirill Kaprizov: Property of the Minnesota Wild. 4) Linus Omark: 33 years old, 32 points in 79 career NHL games. 5) Nigel Dawes: Yeah, that Nigel Dawes. Played four games for us back in 2010-11. He's 35 now. Top five scoring defenseman:1) Mikko Lehtonen: Interesting option. Left defenseman, fits our current All Your Finns Are Us philosophy. 2) Slava Voynov: Currently suspended by the NHL for beating his wife. 3) Juuso Hietanen: 5'9, turns 35 in June. 4) Yakov Rylov: Slightly taller at 5'10, he's already 35. 5) Darren Dietz: Yeah, that Darren Dietz. I actually thought he looked half-ways decent for us way back when, but for some reason he never got a chance elsewhere. He's a right defenseman though, something we currently have a lot of. Top five goalies:Not sure we want to go this way, but I guess if we're looking for a surprise backup... 1) Alexander Samonov: 5'11, 167 lbs. 2) Timur Bilyalov: 5'10, 174lbs. 3) Evgeny Alikin: 5'10, 194lbs. 4) Ivan Bocharov: 6'1, 169lbs - hey, a 6' foot goalie! 5) Ilya Sorokin: Property of the NYI. Slim pickings.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2020 16:34:43 GMT -5
Timmins was quoted last week somewhere that he was very confident Romanov was coming over. That's been the prevailing thinking on CSKA as well, which explains his limited ice time. You're not rewarding a player who is leaving.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 15, 2020 16:51:29 GMT -5
Thus is fantastic news. I was concerned about his royal background in the KHL and they gave lots of cash money. But on the other hand, if there will be a world wide recession andthe KHL itself may be in danger. If I was Bbinz, I'd open discussion with whoever's is the best player in the KHL. Given the odds of a KHL collapse, it's smart business. (Yes, smart and Bbinz oin the same sentence.) Then again, Bbinz is no Pollock. Depends on what you mean by "best" player in the KHL. Top five scoring forwards:1) Vadim Shipachyov: Flamed out spectacularly after three games with Vegas a couple of years ago. 2) Dmitrij Jaskin: Interesting reclamation option I guess, but his 69 points in 303 career NHL games doesn't inspire a great deal of hope. 3) Kirill Kaprizov: Property of the Minnesota Wild. 4) Linus Omark: 33 years old, 32 points in 79 career NHL games. 5) Nigel Dawes: Yeah, that Nigel Dawes. Played four games for us back in 2010-11. He's 35 now. Top five scoring defenseman:1) Mikko Lehtonen: Interesting option. Left defenseman, fits our current All Your Finns Are Us philosophy. 2) Slava Voynov: Currently suspended by the NHL for beating his wife. 3) Juuso Hietanen: 5'9, turns 35 in June. 4) Yakov Rylov: Slightly taller at 5'10, he's already 35. 5) Darren Dietz: Yeah, that Darren Dietz. I actually thought he looked half-ways decent for us way back when, but for some reason he never got a chance elsewhere. He's a right defenseman though, something we currently have a lot of. Top five goalies:Not sure we want to go this way, but I guess if we're looking for a surprise backup... 1) Alexander Samonov: 5'11, 167 lbs. 2) Timur Bilyalov: 5'10, 174lbs. 3) Evgeny Alikin: 5'10, 194lbs. 4) Ivan Bocharov: 6'1, 169lbs - hey, a 6' foot goalie! 5) Ilya Sorokin: Property of the NYI. Slim pickings. I looked at someone like Dadonov. Came over in his prime and doing well. I would look at three players....and give them a chance. AFAIK Kaprizov is now a FA because he never signed with the Wild. Mikko Lehtonen 25, Kirill Kaprizov 25 (unsigned and FA), Kirill Semyonov 26
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 16, 2020 7:50:17 GMT -5
I looked at someone like Dadonov. Came over in his prime and doing well. I would look at three players....and give them a chance. AFAIK Kaprizov is now a FA because he never signed with the Wild. Mikko Lehtonen 25, Kirill Kaprizov 25 (unsigned and FA), Kirill Semyonov 26 Dadonov is the dream of course, but for every Dadonov there is a Sekac, or Shipachev, or Parise... Of course everybody wants the free diamond in the rough, but scouts are too prevalent these days, the true diamonds in the rough are extremely rare. I'm pretty sure Kaprizov still belongs to the Wild. I don't think KHL rights expire. We'd be hearing a lot more buzz about him if we did. Lehtonen seems interesting, but really, where does he fit in? As a left defenseman he'd be competing with Chiarot, Kulak, Mete, Romanov, Leskinen, Ouellet, Olofsson, Alzner, and after next season possibly Struble, Norlinder, and Harris. Sure, it's not exactly a murderer's row of left defenseman, but how good is Lehtonen, himself? At BEST I think he would be 5th on the left-d chart, just ahead of Leskinen (and I actually like Leskinen). If he tries to switch over to the right side, he has to beat out Weber, Petry, Fleury, Juulsen, Brook, and Folin. Semyonov is listed as a center, which surprisingly we have a lot of depth at right now. Danault, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Domi, Poehling, Evans, Weal. Maybe we move him to the wing, but is he better than Lehkonen, or Byron? Meh. For me it's Taylor Hall, maybe Tyler Toffoli, or bust. I'm not screwing around with B-level dreams.
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Post by folatre on Apr 16, 2020 12:18:08 GMT -5
I wonder if Bergevin will have to concede an out clause for Romanov.
Kaprizov is definitely in the Wild's plans. Apparently Guerin has made the Russian a priority and sees him in the club's top six next season given his age and skill.
Bergevin should take a run at Hall. He is a game breaker. Toffoli really does not interest me. If Bergevin intends to keep his vets together (Tatar, Gallagher, Danault, Petry, Armia), there would be no money to add a player like Toffoli.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2020 12:59:53 GMT -5
I wonder if Bergevin will have to concede an out clause for Romanov. Kaprizov is definitely in the Wild's plans. Apparently Guerin has made the Russian a priority and sees him in the club's top six next season given his age and skill. Bergevin should take a run at Hall. He is a game breaker. Toffoli really does not interest me. If Bergevin intends to keep his vets together (Tatar, Gallagher, Danault, Petry, Armia), there would be no money to add a player like Toffoli. Tatar and Armia are ok, but shouldn't give them huge money to keep them imo. I would move Danault if only to make room for the kids and get something decent back. Agree about Hall, he makes our top 6 better by being a quality top 3 player and by pushing everyone down a spot on the left side. Hall-Suzuki-Gallagher Hall can push defenders back, Suze has great IQ and bGal does what he does Tatar-KK-Drouin I like JD on his off side and we are waaay weaker on the right side with the addition of Hall imo Domi-Evans-Armia Free up Max from defensive responsibilities, Evan's is a smart player and Armia has size, control the boards and a good shot Byron-Poehling-Lekhy Got speed with the 2 on the outside,Lekhy should be fine on his off wing, Payday is a smart player This is the future of the Habs down the middle... depending on how they progress, the top 2 centers are interchangeable as are the bottom 2. Tatar and Domi are interchangeable as well.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 16, 2020 13:38:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 16, 2020 13:59:42 GMT -5
For me it's Taylor Hall, maybe Tyler Toffoli, or bust. I'm not screwing around with B-level dreams. I thought you were done with going for the A level mail order Russian brides? Didn't the last "supermodel" bride have web feet? I'm not sure that given the uber failure to bring anyone here, the odds of getting Hall or Tofolli are as slim....as next to none. Of course we can also dream about offer sheets but even there, i wouldn't bet on success. If i gave you a 10% chance of a Dubois or Hall future, then where would you rate the Russian signings? Unless of course you think that our pathetic left defense will heal with Romonov or Mete growth hormone injections will work. I say take a chance on the Russians. If they work out, fine, if not, it's only money. Even a top 6 defenseman is a win. Or wait for that 10%...
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2020 14:21:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. I like Danault, but as long as Julien is the coach, no kid will get a chance at being #1 imo... These kids need some real life experiences, not playing 2nd/3rd fiddle for 4 years... and really, how many big moments will there be in the next 3 years with MB at the helm and all the vets re-upped for big bucks.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 16, 2020 14:53:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. I like Danault, but as long as Julien is the coach, no kid will get a chance at being #1 imo... These kids need some real life experiences, not playing 2nd/3rd fiddle for 4 years... and really, how many big moments will there be in the next 3 years with MB at the helm and all the vets re-upped for big bucks. Agree. Danault is an ideal 3C on a good team, but capable of playing higher up if necessary. You need guys like that.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Apr 16, 2020 15:33:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Bergevin will have to concede an out clause for Romanov. Kaprizov is definitely in the Wild's plans. Apparently Guerin has made the Russian a priority and sees him in the club's top six next season given his age and skill. Bergevin should take a run at Hall. He is a game breaker. Toffoli really does not interest me. If Bergevin intends to keep his vets together (Tatar, Gallagher, Danault, Petry, Armia), there would be no money to add a player like Toffoli. Tatar and Armia are ok, but shouldn't give them huge money to keep them imo. I would move Danault if only to make room for the kids and get something decent back. Agree about Hall, he makes our top 6 better by being a quality top 3 player and by pushing everyone down a spot on the left side. Hall-Suzuki-Gallagher Hall can push defenders back, Suze has great IQ and bGal does what he does Tatar-KK-Drouin I like JD on his off side and we are waaay weaker on the right side with the addition of Hall imo Domi-Evans-Armia Free up Max from defensive responsibilities, Evan's is a smart player and Armia has size, control the boards and a good shot Byron-Poehling-Lekhy Got speed with the 2 on the outside,Lekhy should be fine on his off wing, Payday is a smart player This is the future of the Habs down the middle... depending on how they progress, the top 2 centers are interchangeable as are the bottom 2. Tatar and Domi are interchangeable as well. I agree about Hall. He immediately becomes the leading scorer and best player on the team. Is he a team player and 200 foot player. OMG, I’m sounding like Julien. Our team is currently built around speed, spirit and team play rather than skill. Does Hall add enough skill (yes) while not detracting from attitude (cant believe i said that).
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 16, 2020 15:39:32 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Apr 16, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. For sure, he is a strong two-way player and no one doubts that he could be a valuable contributor for another 3-5 years. The question, however, will soon revolve around what is Danault's worth. In dollar terms, he is a strange case to evaluate. Since December 2016 (when Galchenyuk was injured in Los Angeles), Danault has played with the best wingers the Habs' roster has to offer. No one doubts that he plays against the other teams' top lines and does a good job, but with a relatively large sample size (3.5 seasons) he is nothing more than a 12-15 goal, 50-55 point player while having access to very good linemates. There is only one current forward (Josh Bailey) in the league that I could find who carries a $5 million or larger cap hit and has never scored 20 goals in an NHL season. One guy that I find interesting because he is a defensively responsible centre who is a decent assist man is Wennberg from the Blue Jackets. Tortarella does not play him with Columbus' best wingers and Wennberg's career highs are 13 goals and 59 points. Wenneberg's AAV is $4.9 million (and fans of Columbus and most observers around the league would say he is somewhat overpaid). The moral of the story? Hockey is debatable and I may be wrong, but I believe it would be madness to pay a guy like Danault $6 million per. Moreover, he is probably not a great investment at $5.5 million per. Honestly, I see the break even threshold for a guy like Danault being $5 million per; whereas a player like him at $4.5 would continue to be great value.
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 16, 2020 16:39:43 GMT -5
I want to help all of those who are praying about Hall.... Seriously anyone want to put the odds of getting Hall above 5%? Oh, I don't know. I would say at least 7%. The only reason why I think this year might be different is because of the devastating impact this quarantine is going to have on the cap. Best case scenario is it goes up by about a million bucks. Most likely scenario is that it stays the same. Possible scenario is it dives by a couple of million... or more. In any of those situations Montreal will have more money to offer, possibly a LOT more money, than anybody else. I played with capfriendly's Arm Chair GM tool and I was able to sign Hall for $8.5 million, AND Domi for $5.5 million, AND Kovalchouk for $1.5 million, and still have about a million under the cap. If somebody like Lehkonen or Byron is traded, or Kovalchouk is not brought back, there is money en masse. Which not a lot of teams can say these days. Certainly few, if any, of the contenders. So "good team" won't be as big a factor this off-season (if ever it comes). Even a lot of the crap teams are up against it. I'm not saying we will be the only suitor, but barring some significant changes the usual suspects, like Tampa, Toronto, New York, San Jose, etc, they're all going to be out of it.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 16, 2020 17:26:27 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. I would say at least 7%. The only reason why I think this year might be different is because of the devastating impact this quarantine is going to have on the cap. Best case scenario is it goes up by about a million bucks. Most likely scenario is that it stays the same. Possible scenario is it dives by a couple of million... or more. In any of those situations Montreal will have more money to offer, possibly a LOT more money, than anybody else. I played with capfriendly's Arm Chair GM tool and I was able to sign Hall for $8.5 million, AND Domi for $5.5 million, AND Kovalchouk for $1.5 million, and still have about a million under the cap. If somebody like Lehkonen or Byron is traded, or Kovalchouk is not brought back, there is money en masse. Which not a lot of teams can say these days. Certainly few, if any, of the contenders. So "good team" won't be as big a factor this off-season (if ever it comes). Even a lot of the crap teams are up against it. I'm not saying we will be the only suitor, but barring some significant changes the usual suspects, like Tampa, Toronto, New York, San Jose, etc, they're all going to be out of it. Why not Colorado? Or Kings? Or Devils? And why 8.5 million? The virus hasn't cured stupidity. IF...a giant IF we sign Hall.....I don't see room for Kovo. Nor do I care to see him back. Nor do I think he will sign for 1.5 million. For that much, the Caps are going to be a better choice as a contender. Let's fetch some comrades and not bet on something that is very unlikely.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 16, 2020 17:39:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. If they actually played him like Guy Carbonneau ... but what if Carbonneau was with Naslund while Bobby Smith played with Sergio Momesso and Lucien DeBlois??
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 16, 2020 19:56:18 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. I would say at least 7%. The only reason why I think this year might be different is because of the devastating impact this quarantine is going to have on the cap. Best case scenario is it goes up by about a million bucks. Most likely scenario is that it stays the same. Possible scenario is it dives by a couple of million... or more. In any of those situations Montreal will have more money to offer, possibly a LOT more money, than anybody else. I played with capfriendly's Arm Chair GM tool and I was able to sign Hall for $8.5 million, AND Domi for $5.5 million, AND Kovalchouk for $1.5 million, and still have about a million under the cap. If somebody like Lehkonen or Byron is traded, or Kovalchouk is not brought back, there is money en masse. Which not a lot of teams can say these days. Certainly few, if any, of the contenders. So "good team" won't be as big a factor this off-season (if ever it comes). Even a lot of the crap teams are up against it. I'm not saying we will be the only suitor, but barring some significant changes the usual suspects, like Tampa, Toronto, New York, San Jose, etc, they're all going to be out of it. Why not Colorado? Or Kings? Or Devils? And why 8.5 million? The virus hasn't cured stupidity. IF...a giant IF we sign Hall.....I don't see room for Kovo. Nor do I care to see him back. Nor do I think he will sign for 1.5 million. For that much, the Caps are going to be a better choice as a contender. Let's fetch some comrades and not bet on something that is very unlikely. I figured $8.5 million, which puts him in the same category as Sebastian Aho (and a whole bunch of other players, including Crosby, but I picked Aho because he was the most recent signing). If teams want to go above that, then so be it. But I don’t think there are that many teams who are in a position to do so this year. Colorado would... but they would then have around half their team making under a million. Certainly there are teams that could compete at $8.5 million. But not as many as in previous years. I'd say *maybe* 7 or 8, and that would be generous. Montreal, Ottawa, New Jersey, Detroit, Buffalo, Minnesota, and LA. Throw in Colorado. That's us and seven other teams. Just about everybody else would have to make some serious and painful decisions. Boston, for example, could do it... if they let Torrey Krug go. Calgary would have to gut their blueline. Florida would have to part with Hoffman, Dadonov, and Haula. As things stand the market is not that wide open. I still think it would be an extreme long shot to get him... but if ever there was a year...
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Post by Skilly on Apr 16, 2020 21:25:29 GMT -5
Don’t we say this every year? We have the cap space, other teams don’t, if ever there was a year ...and yet we still wait in the Pumpkin Patch.
I’d love to have Hall, but I’m not holding my breath ... my guess, is the roster will look very much the same as pre Covid
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Post by folatre on Apr 16, 2020 22:16:36 GMT -5
For sure, offer Hall 7 years/$60 million. I do not necessarily think it would tempt him but it would be illogical not to try. And in a flat cap world for the next couple of seasons, if it did come to fruition, Bergevin would have to forgo re-signing Tatar or else move Domi/Drouin and Byron. I say this because I assume that Bergevin intends to re-sign Gallagher, Petry, Danault, and Armia.
Even without Hall, the whole 'Montreal has a tonne of cap space' assumption/narrative is likely to come crashing down in 2021-22 and the status quo (i.e. re-sign all of the UFAs) will prove to be quite expensive. And frankly, considering how little this veteran core has accomplished on the ice, I really wonder if it will be strategically wise to hold on to all of these nice lads.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 17, 2020 0:25:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. If they actually played him like Guy Carbonneau ... but what if Carbonneau was with Naslund while Bobby Smith played with Sergio Momesso and Lucien DeBlois?? A most crushing indictment of Julien's line compositions. And a well placed one.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 17, 2020 0:28:47 GMT -5
For sure, offer Hall 7 years/$60 million. I do not necessarily think it would tempt him but it would be illogical not to try. And in a flat cap world for the next couple of seasons, if it did come to fruition, Bergevin would have to forgo re-signing Tatar or else move Domi/Drouin and Byron. I say this because I assume that Bergevin intends to re-sign Gallagher, Petry, Danault, and Armia. Even without Hall, the whole 'Montreal has a tonne of cap space' assumption/narrative is likely to come crashing down in 2021-22 and the status quo (i.e. re-sign all of the UFAs) will prove to be quite expensive. And frankly, considering how little this veteran core has accomplished on the ice, I really wonder if it will be strategically wise to hold on to all of these nice lads. My philosophy on UFA's coming to Montreal is that the taxes are an issue (which can be overcome if you pay enough and hurt your CAP), but probably the biggest impediments are that the Habs aren't a winning team, don't look like they're going to be a winning team anytime soon, and the architect of this non-winningness is firmly entrenched and not trusted by agents. I put the odds of acquiring any quality UFA at 0.5%. Just consider the last guy we got. We had to pay $4.65MM a year for a guy to play in Laval.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 17, 2020 13:56:52 GMT -5
Thus is fantastic news. I was concerned about his royal background in the KHL and they gave lots of cash money. But on the other hand, if there will be a world wide recession andthe KHL itself may be in danger. If I was Bbinz, I'd open discussion with whoever's is the best player in the KHL. Given the odds of a KHL collapse, it's smart business. (Yes, smart and Bbinz oin the same sentence.) Then again, Bbinz is no Pollock. Depends on what you mean by "best" player in the KHL. Top five scoring forwards:1) Vadim Shipachyov: Flamed out spectacularly after three games with Vegas a couple of years ago. 2) Dmitrij Jaskin: Interesting reclamation option I guess, but his 69 points in 303 career NHL games doesn't inspire a great deal of hope. 3) Kirill Kaprizov: Property of the Minnesota Wild. 4) Linus Omark: 33 years old, 32 points in 79 career NHL games. 5) Nigel Dawes: Yeah, that Nigel Dawes. Played four games for us back in 2010-11. He's 35 now. Top five scoring defenseman:1) Mikko Lehtonen: Interesting option. Left defenseman, fits our current All Your Finns Are Us philosophy. 2) Slava Voynov: Currently suspended by the NHL for beating his wife. 3) Juuso Hietanen: 5'9, turns 35 in June. 4) Yakov Rylov: Slightly taller at 5'10, he's already 35. 5) Darren Dietz: Yeah, that Darren Dietz. I actually thought he looked half-ways decent for us way back when, but for some reason he never got a chance elsewhere. He's a right defenseman though, something we currently have a lot of. Top five goalies:Not sure we want to go this way, but I guess if we're looking for a surprise backup... 1) Alexander Samonov: 5'11, 167 lbs. 2) Timur Bilyalov: 5'10, 174lbs. 3) Evgeny Alikin: 5'10, 194lbs. 4) Ivan Bocharov: 6'1, 169lbs - hey, a 6' foot goalie! 5) Ilya Sorokin: Property of the NYI. Slim pickings. Nice analysis, much appreciated. Apparently the Habs had been kicking the tyres on Jaskin.
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Post by folatre on Apr 17, 2020 20:04:10 GMT -5
I honestly have almost no recollection of this Jaskin guy (I guess I was not watching many Blues games during his years there). Looking at his bio, I like his size and his age would suggest that he should not be all broken down.
Based on a decent sample size in the NHL (300 games), it feels safe to say that he is not going to scare NHL goalies. Six percent is a very low shooting percentage. That is okay if he is a fourth liner who can skate, forecheck and bang without taking a lot of silly minor penalties, and chip in twenty points. Jeje, I cannot answer my questions. Does he skate well? Does he like to lay the body?
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Post by jkr on Apr 17, 2020 21:25:03 GMT -5
I like Danault, but as long as Julien is the coach, no kid will get a chance at being #1 imo... These kids need some real life experiences, not playing 2nd/3rd fiddle for 4 years... and really, how many big moments will there be in the next 3 years with MB at the helm and all the vets re-upped for big bucks. Agree. Danault is an ideal 3C on a good team, but capable of playing higher up if necessary. You need guys like that. Where's the good team he is going to play with? Its not in Montreal.
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Post by GNick99 on Apr 18, 2020 2:23:51 GMT -5
Tatar and Armia are ok, but shouldn't give them huge money to keep them imo. I would move Danault if only to make room for the kids and get something decent back. Agree about Hall, he makes our top 6 better by being a quality top 3 player and by pushing everyone down a spot on the left side. Hall-Suzuki-Gallagher Hall can push defenders back, Suze has great IQ and bGal does what he does Tatar-KK-Drouin I like JD on his off side and we are waaay weaker on the right side with the addition of Hall imo Domi-Evans-Armia Free up Max from defensive responsibilities, Evan's is a smart player and Armia has size, control the boards and a good shot Byron-Poehling-Lekhy Got speed with the 2 on the outside,Lekhy should be fine on his off wing, Payday is a smart player This is the future of the Habs down the middle... depending on how they progress, the top 2 centers are interchangeable as are the bottom 2. Tatar and Domi are interchangeable as well. I agree about Hall. He immediately becomes the leading scorer and best player on the team. Is he a team player and 200 foot player. OMG, I’m sounding like Julien. Our team is currently built around speed, spirit and team play rather than skill. Does Hall add enough skill (yes) while not detracting from attitude (cant believe i said that). I don't really want Hall. Hope he refuses to sign here. He never helped the Oilers, Devils and even Yotes. Yotes were better team without him. He's not the answer. A ton of money and he is not the guy.
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Post by GNick99 on Apr 18, 2020 2:29:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Danault. He's the most versatile center we have, he's only 27, the kind of center you trust in big moments. Kind of like Guy Carbonneau. If we're going to be a contending team in the next 2-3 years we could do a lot worse than having a guy like Danault in the mix. I wouldn't trade Danault unless blown away. Then you have to. An Oiler fan offered me Bouchard and a first at deadline. Case like that....good-bye.
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Post by folatre on Apr 18, 2020 11:00:15 GMT -5
For sure, if someone wants Danault that badly then so be it.
But in reality management is probably planning on keeping him and that is likely what he wants too. And, again, I like him as a player. He is a very solid two-way centre. But Montreal has seen the best of him since he has been playing with the Habs best wingers for 3.5 seasons and the productivity is hardly overwhelming. I do not think he has a good case for making $6 million (and probably not even $5.5) on a long-term deal.
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