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Post by GNick99 on May 30, 2020 7:37:10 GMT -5
Oh the pain...the 2006 draft ranks right there among a long list of bad ones over the last 25 years. Montreal should be taking advantage of a non-cap controlled competitive advantage like Scouting. Toronto has far more full time scouts than Montreal. Montreal's ownership is thriftier than Toronto's. Shows how important drafts are
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Post by folatre on May 30, 2020 9:54:23 GMT -5
No kidding....I think I heard that the leafs have 62 million in contract bonus due July 1st. Yeah, the Leafs are in another stratosphere with the July 1 bonus dimension. They even give dudes who are totally medio pelo like Johnsson a big chunk of his annual compensation that way. But even more so than how much of the compensation gets paid out on July 1 rather than bi-monthly during the season, Toronto's total NHL wage bill is astronomical. Guys like Horton and Clarkson were not insured contracts. Toronto paid $103 million USD this season for NHL player compensation. Also, the Leafs are famous (infamous in the opinion of many rivals) for carrying a huge wage bill by AHL standards and even lavishing expenditures (in way of skill coaches and first rate travel) on their ECHL team. And then last but not least is the scouting function. The Leafs spend a lot of coin there. Montreal rakes in revenue very much on par with the Toronto and NYR, but in terms of being a big spender Montreal simply does not believe in that model of spare no cost in the pursuit of winning.
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Post by jkr on May 30, 2020 10:54:41 GMT -5
I'm no stranger to criticizing the Leafs . But I give them credit for spending on the minor league system. IMO you build long term success from the ground up. The minor league systems you describe remind me a little of the first class acaademy systems of the top European football clubs. Unfortuantely Molson just wants to keep his profits for himself. BTW, where did you find those $ numbers? Very interesting reading.
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Post by folatre on May 30, 2020 11:14:25 GMT -5
My brother in law (Leafs fan) told me it was $103 million USD. Now that I just looked for myself on CapFriendly, it says Toronto's "estimated salary expenditures" were $113.85 million. In contrast, Montreal's "estimated salary expenditures" were $75.81 million.
And this does not even begin to calculate how much the Leafs spend on their own front office, analytics and sports science, scouting, the AHL wage bill, skills coaches, ECHL, etc.
Molson is a Habs fan and he seems like a good guy, but there is nothing in his decade-long tenure as the Chair of this ownership group that suggests that he will spare no cost in the pursuit of winning.
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Post by UberCranky on May 30, 2020 12:58:37 GMT -5
Mol$on doesn't have to spend those beautiful profits. As long as the sheep wllingly get sheared, if he is thinking good thoughts and tells us he loves the Habs, that's enough for us.
We in turn should pray every day for a team in Quebec City. Or a sudden epiphany from sesson ticket holders that they are getting sheared for nothing....
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2020 13:22:48 GMT -5
Oh the pain...the 2006 draft ranks right there among a long list of bad ones over the last 25 years. Montreal should be taking advantage of a non-cap controlled competitive advantage like Scouting. Toronto has far more full time scouts than Montreal. Montreal's ownership is thriftier than Toronto's. Chuckle. Thriftier.
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Post by seventeen on May 30, 2020 13:26:40 GMT -5
Mol$on doesn't have to spend those beautiful profits. As long as the sheep wllingly get sheared, if he is thinking good thoughts and tells us he loves the Habs, that's enough for us. We in turn should pray every day for a team in Quebec City. Or a sudden epiphany from sesson ticket holders that they are getting sheared for nothing.... Fans: "Geoff...any inclination to put more money into scouting, development, etc. where there is no CAP? Molson: "Thoughts and prayers, folks, thoughts and prayers".
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Post by franko on May 30, 2020 20:12:06 GMT -5
the Leafs are in another stratosphere with the July 1 bonus dimension. They even give dudes who are totally medio pelo like Johnsson a big chunk of his annual compensation that way. But even more so than how much of the compensation gets paid out on July 1 rather than bi-monthly during the season, Toronto's total NHL wage bill is astronomical. Guys like Horton and Clarkson were not insured contracts. Toronto paid $103 million USD this season for NHL player compensation. Also, the Leafs are famous (infamous in the opinion of many rivals) for carrying a huge wage bill by AHL standards and even lavishing expenditures (in way of skill coaches and first rate travel) on their ECHL team. And then last but not least is the scouting function. The Leafs spend a lot of coin there. 53 years without a sniff will do that to you. 27 years without a sniff should do that to you.
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Post by GNick99 on May 31, 2020 3:59:57 GMT -5
No kidding....I think I heard that the leafs have 62 million in contract bonus due July 1st. Yeah, the Leafs are in another stratosphere with the July 1 bonus dimension. They even give dudes who are totally medio pelo like Johnsson a big chunk of his annual compensation that way. But even more so than how much of the compensation gets paid out on July 1 rather than bi-monthly during the season, Toronto's total NHL wage bill is astronomical. Guys like Horton and Clarkson were not insured contracts. Toronto paid $103 million USD this season for NHL player compensation. Also, the Leafs are famous (infamous in the opinion of many rivals) for carrying a huge wage bill by AHL standards and even lavishing expenditures (in way of skill coaches and first rate travel) on their ECHL team. And then last but not least is the scouting function. The Leafs spend a lot of coin there. Montreal rakes in revenue very much on par with the Toronto and NYR, but in terms of being a big spender Montreal simply does not believe in that model of spare no cost in the pursuit of winning. Shows how much coin Molson is taking home.
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