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Post by Willie Dog on May 27, 2020 17:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 27, 2020 21:17:07 GMT -5
Thanks, Willie ... Marc Bergevin wasn't expecting to play in the playoffs this year but he's getting his chance ... Jonathan Drouin is cleared to play, Victor Mete is not ... no word on Jesperi Kotkaniemi ...
Cheers.
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Post by folatre on May 27, 2020 22:04:16 GMT -5
Thanks, Willie.
Bergevin was fine and he stated the obvious. There was nothing out of ordinary in his comments. Obviously he likes the idea of getting a chance to qualify for the playoffs even if the Habs honestly had a one-tenth of one percent chance of qualifying on merit.
There is of course an element of truth to his repeating/rephrasing today of his well-known belief that anything can happen in the Playoffs.
He may, however, sound a lot more nervous in August if Montreal bites the dust against Pittsburgh and some team like the Rangers or Toronto or Florida end up with a top three pick in the draft.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 28, 2020 6:56:55 GMT -5
I think MB was hoping for this to happen, it could give him another 5 years if they go on a run like in 2010... I hope that does not happen, best case scenario is a Pens sweep. The nail must be driven into the coffin on this regime.
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2020 8:27:10 GMT -5
I think MB was hoping for this to happen, it could give him another 5 years if they go on a run like in 2010... I hope that does not happen, best case scenario is a Pens sweep. The nail must be driven into the coffin on this regime. For the sake of the players, I’m rooting for a respectable showing. Bergevin and Julien weren’t being fired, regardless. Being humiliated by the Pens won’t change a thing. All the excuses are in place. It’s all about next season’s outcome, I think. What the flagship franchise really needs--especially in a 30+ team league--is a POHO with cajones.
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Post by The Habitual Fan on May 28, 2020 8:28:40 GMT -5
I will be hoping and cheering for the Canadiens to do well in the playoffs. If they go out in the first round it will be too bad but the consolation is they get a better draft pick. If they get past Pittsburgh then I hope they go deep. It will be a good experience for the young players to get a taste of playoff hockey and a chance for Price, Weber, Gallagher and so on to get a shot they wouldn't have normally. So much emphasis is put on I hope they lose or I hope they miss the playoffs because it will look bad on Molson and Bergevin, honestly I don't care.
I am a Habs lifelong fan and want to see them win whenever they can. I was a kid in the era of the Flying Frenchman and loved it. I sat on the edge of my seat when Steve Penney went on a roll in the playoffs and was happy. I couldn't tell you who the coach and GM were at that time without looking it up, but but I do remember watching Penney shut out Boston 1-0. I was in a hospital when Halak was amazing against Washington and watched some of those games in a waiting room with other patients because the TV was bigger. I was excited when Price was playing great against the Rangers and pissed when Krider "accidentally" took his knee out. Then there were the Koviu and Theodore moments that stand out in memory. Looking back the coach and GM are not part of those moments. Yes "if and buts" may have changed the outcome in those series and we can hate those that made unpopular decisions (Therrien Yellow jacket) but I am a Habs fan first. They are in the playoffs and I don't care how they got there. Play your hearts out and make the fans proud win or lose. If you win a cup that would be unbelievably amazing but do your best and worry about where you draft after. Control what you can control and don't stress about what you can't. You have a shot that you didn't deserve so make the best of it and as a fan I will happily watch every minute of it.
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2020 8:31:34 GMT -5
Great post, THF!
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Post by BadCompany on May 28, 2020 10:26:06 GMT -5
I will be hoping and cheering for the Canadiens to do well in the playoffs. If they go out in the first round it will be too bad but the consolation is they get a better draft pick. If they get past Pittsburgh then I hope they go deep. It will be a good experience for the young players to get a taste of playoff hockey and a chance for Price, Weber, Gallagher and so on to get a shot they wouldn't have normally. So much emphasis is put on I hope they lose or I hope they miss the playoffs because it will look bad on Molson and Bergevin, honestly I don't care. I am a Habs lifelong fan and want to see them win whenever they can. I was a kid in the era of the Flying Frenchman and loved it. I sat on the edge of my seat when Steve Penney went on a roll in the playoffs and was happy. I couldn't tell you who the coach and GM were at that time without looking it up, but but I do remember watching Penney shut out Boston 1-0. I was in a hospital when Halak was amazing against Washington and watched some of those games in a waiting room with other patients because the TV was bigger. I was excited when Price was playing great against the Rangers and pissed when Krider "accidentally" took his knee out. Then there were the Koviu and Theodore moments that stand out in memory. Looking back the coach and GM are not part of those moments. Yes "if and buts" may have changed the outcome in those series and we can hate those that made unpopular decisions (Therrien Yellow jacket) but I am a Habs fan first. They are in the playoffs and I don't care how they got there. Play your hearts out and make the fans proud win or lose. If you win a cup that would be unbelievably amazing but do your best and worry about where you draft after. Control what you can control and don't stress about what you can't. You have a shot that you didn't deserve so make the best of it and as a fan I will happily watch every minute of it.
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Post by seventeen on May 28, 2020 10:57:12 GMT -5
I think MB was hoping for this to happen, it could give him another 5 years if they go on a run like in 2010... I hope that does not happen, best case scenario is a Pens sweep. The nail must be driven into the coffin on this regime. For the sake of the players, I’m rooting for a respectable showing. Bergevin and Julien weren’t being fired, regardless. Being humiliated by the Pens won’t change a thing. All the excuses are in place. It’s all about next season’s outcome, I think. What the flagship franchise really needs--especially in a 30+ team league--is a POHO with cajones. That won't happen with Molson and Co in charge because a POHO comes with one huge liability.....another contract to pay out. Molson likely isn't paying himself anything because he's not doing anything other than letting Bergevin run the team. Zero cost to him. Molson and Co just don't see a POHO as adding any value or helping the bottom line. Its a cost, not an investment to them.
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Post by CentreHice on May 28, 2020 12:18:08 GMT -5
For the sake of the players, I’m rooting for a respectable showing. Bergevin and Julien weren’t being fired, regardless. Being humiliated by the Pens won’t change a thing. All the excuses are in place. It’s all about next season’s outcome, I think. What the flagship franchise really needs--especially in a 30+ team league--is a POHO with cajones. That won't happen with Molson and Co in charge because a POHO comes with one huge liability.....another contract to pay out. Molson likely isn't paying himself anything because he's not doing anything other than letting Bergevin run the team. Zero cost to him. Molson and Co just don't see a POHO as adding any value or helping the bottom line. Its a cost, not an investment to them. It might be working for Molson, but it sure isn't working for the fans. Such a position filled with "contention competence" would pay for itself many times over with playoff gates alone. Even if such a direction fails to return the glory, I know I would at least appreciate the restructuring effort from the top....because that's where it all starts. IMO.
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Post by jkr on May 28, 2020 13:33:04 GMT -5
I just can't agree with the sentiment of the past few posts. I've been a fan for decades & been through all the hits & lows too but I am not excited about this at all.
They have had a dismal season & were on track to get the result they deserved - no playoffs. Now, due to a global pandemic, they are given an undeserved place in a made up tournament.
IMO it's not something to be excited about.
EDIT: Saw a quote from Tavares saying that the 2020 Cup winner will be a deserving champion. I wonder if he will feel that way if one of the non playoff team wins it.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 28, 2020 16:33:49 GMT -5
I just can't agree with the sentiment of the past few posts. I've been a fan for decades & been through all the hits & lows too but I am not excited about this at all. I'm kind of there, myself, JKR ... for me, it's not so much about the emotional rollercoaster of the past few seasons, it's more about the real reasons they added 8 team$ to the tournament ... I was listening to Marc Bergevin yesterday and he was careful when addressing this ... he actually sounded like he didn't expect to be in the tournament and that he was lucky to be there ... I can only speak for myself, but I'll probably be more into it as the tournament nears ... I read I doubt I'll watch the remainder of the tournament should the Habs be eliminated, though ... hard to say right now ... There are probably more than a few players out there who don't feel the same as John Tavares ... yet, give the players an opportunity to play for the Cup and they're going to go all out for it ... despite the disdain that's the only focus the players should have at this point ... right now the NHL is looking at August as a starting point ... IMHO, all of the announcements, the dialogs, etc, are giving a lot of fans hope and, as much as I would like to see the remainder of the season squashed, the NHL doesn't want to dash those hopes ... they're going to have to get the tournament off the ground not only for the buck$ but for the fans, as well ...
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Post by jkr on May 28, 2020 16:49:11 GMT -5
I agree with Cox. Been a long time since that happened. Why bother. They will be playing hockey around the time training camp would have been starting.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 28, 2020 18:44:01 GMT -5
I agree with Cox. Been a long time since that happened. Why bother. They will be playing hockey around the time training camp would have been starting. Maybe Bettman will rename the months so September became March, October to April etc. Just award everyone participation trophies and start next season correctly.
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Post by seventeen on May 29, 2020 14:07:00 GMT -5
That won't happen with Molson and Co in charge because a POHO comes with one huge liability.....another contract to pay out. Molson likely isn't paying himself anything because he's not doing anything other than letting Bergevin run the team. Zero cost to him. Molson and Co just don't see a POHO as adding any value or helping the bottom line. Its a cost, not an investment to them. It might be working for Molson, but it sure isn't working for the fans. Such a position filled with "contention competence" would pay for itself many times over with playoff gates alone. Even if such a direction fails to return the glory, I know I would at least appreciate the restructuring effort from the top....because that's where it all starts. IMO. Easy answer - Since when has the welfare of the fans ever been a consideration for Molson? The only attention he pays to us is in the phrasing of his excuses.
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