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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 21:51:06 GMT -5
Is Sid screaming at the refs again? My dude. You're the most protected player in the league.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 5, 2020 22:00:25 GMT -5
I'm sure the Pens' fans are livid...but good on the boys after being down 1-3 halfway through the game.
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Post by HFTO on Aug 5, 2020 22:30:49 GMT -5
Wow....got to love the battle ...I am so torn knowing full well a miracle run with this group is slim to none but at the same time recognize the farther they go it’a all good for several of the guys in this group. On the flip side if the go down in 4 or 5 the next round and draft 16th that would be a big blow to them rebuilding possibly with Laffy or worst case with a 9th pic which will be a really good player. I can’t help but cheer but if they lose and battle I’m good especially if we’re all lucky hockey is back for us in 4months.
All that being said will be glued and cheering Friday afternoon....I feel so bi polar right now ...lol
Hope all is well guys and no one has been adversely impacted through this pandemic.
HFTO
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Post by seventeen on Aug 5, 2020 23:07:25 GMT -5
It's the worst possible outcome for the future of this team. A pretty good outcome for Molson, who might get some extra TV revenue out of it, but winning this series against the Pens probably hurts the Habs for another decade. So incredibly stupid. Oh well.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 5, 2020 23:19:40 GMT -5
I don’t care about this series or this year. The Habs have shown who they are. I’ve seen enough.
If they win this series and lose a real shot at Lafreniere I will be sick.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 5, 2020 23:27:41 GMT -5
Wow....got to love the battle ...I am so torn knowing full well a miracle run with this group is slim to none but at the same time recognize the farther they go it’a all good for several of the guys in this group. On the flip side if the go down in 4 or 5 the next round and draft 16th that would be a big blow to them rebuilding possibly with Laffy or worst case with a 9th pic which will be a really good player. I can’t help but cheer but if they lose and battle I’m good especially if we’re all lucky hockey is back for us in 4months. All that being said will be glued and cheering Friday afternoon....I feel so bi polar right now ...lol Hope all is well guys and no one has been adversely impacted through this pandemic. HFTO ce to see you checking in, HFTO and thanks for the well wishes ... the majority of Habs fans I've talked to recently really want that shot at Alexis Lafreniere ... there are a lot of fans who want to see the Habs excel, too, but the prevailing paradigm is for Lafreniere ... I was actually surprised at how well the guys played tonight #sigh ... would like to know how Jake Evans is doing ... the defence corps is getting it done at both ends of the ice ... Ben Chiarot 2A, +4, Shea Weber 1G, 2A, continued good health to you and yours, mate ... Cheers.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Aug 6, 2020 0:02:17 GMT -5
I don’t care about this series or this year. The Habs have shown who they are. I’ve seen enough. If they win this series and lose a real shot at Lafreniere I will be sick. It’s not just a shot at Lafrenière. It’s also a shot at a #9 pick.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 6, 2020 1:06:03 GMT -5
I don’t care about this series or this year. The Habs have shown who they are. I’ve seen enough. If they win this series and lose a real shot at Lafreniere I will be sick. It’s not just a shot at Lafrenière. It’s also a shot at a #9 pick. Yup. From #1, to #9 to #16. Exactly what those of us with any long term vision are dying for.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 6, 2020 1:08:51 GMT -5
We won...and lost at the same time.
It was a great comeback, but.....
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Post by seventeen on Aug 6, 2020 1:10:37 GMT -5
I don’t care about this series or this year. The Habs have shown who they are. I’ve seen enough. If they win this series and lose a real shot at Lafreniere I will be sick. Other Canadian teams aren't there yet so even that is disappointing. Jets are crucified by injuries, Canucks need more experience, Edmonton needs more defence, Calgary needs something, and TO doesn't have enough defensi ve awareness. Sigh. But Ottawa might win it in 3 years. They'll have some pretty good talent. Can you imagine if the Sens are the next Canadian team to win the SC?
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 6, 2020 1:42:07 GMT -5
Like many Hab fans, I too am torn. I know the best for this franchise is to lose and build in this draft. But when I watch the games I can't help but jump out of my seat when the Habs score or someone gives Hornquist, Malkin or Sid a shot.
If we are going to take the series and lose later in the playoffs then at least I will feel it will have benefitted our young players for the future. Speaking of which KK is now a monster. Man is he playing well and tough. Suze continues his smart slick play.
AND FINALLY, CJ realizes that the team will do better with Danny as our #3 centre. Suze and KK should be 1 and 1A with offensive wingers. Danny with Lecky and Byron is a great shut down line and that's exactly what they did tonight. The question is whether CJ only did this because we were behind and he realized we needed offence, or perhaps because he realized we have last change as the home team so he could always match Danny against Sid or Malkin. The only hope is that he realizes that this is the formula for success in the future.
With Evans out it will be interesting to see if CJ comes back with Weal or goes to Poehling - sure hope it is the latter. LET THE KIDS PLAY. If we are going to give up a great draft pick then at least use these games to build for the future. Weal and Weise are not the future.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 6, 2020 2:41:37 GMT -5
If we win I think we go against the Bolts.
There is no doubt in my mind it will be a Pyrrhic victory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 3:37:55 GMT -5
If the Habs close out, I don't know if it will be then outworking Pittsburgh more so than the Pens laying a large egg. And you can't necessarily ask the Habs to just roll over; these guys want to win.
But what we're seeing is that the kids are definitely good enough, and deserve top minutes.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 6, 2020 4:50:43 GMT -5
If we win I think we go against the Bolts. There is no doubt in my mind it will be a Pyrrhic victory. Exactly. A meaningless sugar high in a lamentable season for the Habs and the NHL. This whole thing is about money and being fair to teams like Boston and Tampa who deserve a chance to finish off a great season. Seriously, the 2019-20 Habs just don’t matter. I ordinarily wouldn’t mind the young guys getting experience but with a legit shot at Lafreniere on the line? I have a hard time spinning this as a positive. What do you bet that if we win the series that Pittsburgh ends up with Lafreniere? I’d put freaking Andre Racicot in net tomorrow
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 6, 2020 5:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 6, 2020 7:35:47 GMT -5
I don’t care about this series or this year. The Habs have shown who they are. I’ve seen enough. If they win this series and lose a real shot at Lafreniere I will be sick. Other Canadian teams aren't there yet so even that is disappointing. Jets are crucified by injuries, Canucks need more experience, Edmonton needs more defence, Calgary needs something, and TO doesn't have enough defensi ve awareness. Sigh. But Ottawa might win it in 3 years. They'll have some pretty good talent. Can you imagine if the Sens are the next Canadian team to win the SC? Living in Ottawa would be unbearable and Sens fans moreso
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 6, 2020 9:30:59 GMT -5
A meaningless sugar high in a lamentable season ... Very well said ... Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 6, 2020 10:13:17 GMT -5
If y’all want Montreal to lose than I guess it’s time to post this (I wanted to post it in Game 1)
Montreal has never lost a playoff series to Sidney Crosby, AND they’ve never lost a playoff series to the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Let the jinx begin. You’re welcome
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Post by franko on Aug 6, 2020 10:30:25 GMT -5
If y’all want Montreal to lose than I guess it’s time to post this (I wanted to post it in Game 1) Montreal has never lost a playoff series to Sidney Crosby, AND they’ve never lost a playoff series to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Let the jinx begin. You’re welcome we play well against Pittsburgh because we're the same kind of team (though less talented) even if the Penguins are/play bigger. Get us against TBay or Washington who are big strong and talented and we're toast. unless Halak is in net, of course.
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Post by folatre on Aug 6, 2020 11:10:22 GMT -5
Price is outplaying Murray. Maybe if the Pens were firing on all cylinders the differential in goalie play would not feel decisive. But the reality is Pittsburgh has quite a few guys who look lost (Schultz, Johnson, Marleau, Lafferty) and if you are a goalie already not completely trusting yourself out there everything becomes that much more precarious if you don't trust the positioning and decision making of some of the guys in front of you.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 6, 2020 11:37:43 GMT -5
I guess this “feels” like a playoff series but it’s not even that. All this does is get us in into the 1st round where we will get smoked. Do these stats even count for the record keeping?
I know the guys are playing to win and they should but what a waste.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 6, 2020 12:06:42 GMT -5
AND FINALLY, CJ realizes that the team will do better with Danny as our #3 centre. Suze and KK should be 1 and 1A with offensive wingers. Danny with Lecky and Byron is a great shut down line and that's exactly what they did tonight. The question is whether CJ only did this because we were behind and he realized we needed offence, or perhaps because he realized we have last change as the home team so he could always match Danny against Sid or Malkin. The only hope is that he realizes that this is the formula for success in the future. With Evans out it will be interesting to see if CJ comes back with Weal or goes to Poehling - sure hope it is the latter. LET THE KIDS PLAY. If we are going to give up a great draft pick then at least use these games to build for the future. Weal and Weise are not the future. I don''t think CJ is helping out KK in the least. KK got 13:57, 10:21 and 13:49 in each game. That's close to 4th line minutes. Max Domi has had 15:33, 14:40 and 10:58 in the same games. Who has played better? It can also be argues (without a lot of effort) that JK has outplayed Suzuki, who has 23:10, 19:30 and 19:15. If anyone causes JK to lose confidence, it's not the kid or his teammates. So many good points made above. If we win, I guarantee that in 3 years we will be lamenting we didn't get at least the 9th overall pick and we'll be dreaming of what the Habs would look like with the players picked around that spot instead of the guy we actually got.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 6, 2020 12:14:05 GMT -5
If we win I think we go against the Bolts. There is no doubt in my mind it will be a Pyrrhic victory. Well put, buds ... Cheers.
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Post by folatre on Aug 6, 2020 13:08:41 GMT -5
I guess this “feels” like a playoff series but it’s not even that. All this does is get us in into the 1st round where we will get smoked. Do these stats even count for the record keeping? I know the guys are playing to win and they should but what a waste. Good question. I thought that I heard someone on the NHL network say that the players' stats will count as playoffs, but the teams' wins and losses will not. Kind of strange if this is true. Regarding the round of 16, Tampa is stacked and would be a brutal match up for Montreal. Washington would not be much better but at least Holtby's inconsistency in the last couple of seasons could give a glimmer of hope.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 6, 2020 13:22:22 GMT -5
I guess this “feels” like a playoff series but it’s not even that. All this does is get us in into the 1st round where we will get smoked. Do these stats even count for the record keeping? I know the guys are playing to win and they should but what a waste. the stats indeed do count … we already heard about Blueger's first ever playoff goal
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Post by Skilly on Aug 6, 2020 13:25:47 GMT -5
It is still possible we end up playing the Flyers.
As of right now, Tampa Bay has assured themselves the #2 seed. If Washington beats the Flyers, then Tampa gets the #1 seed
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Post by Skilly on Aug 6, 2020 13:43:20 GMT -5
Fun fact
If we do beat Pittsburgh … and if Philadelphia beats Washington and Tampa
Montreal vs Philadelphia Toronto Columbus winner vs Tampa
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Post by BadCompany on Aug 6, 2020 16:51:07 GMT -5
Hendrix Lapierre, here we come! Even if we're in the lottery, there is an 87.5% chance we lose it... an 87.5% chance we lose it... an 87.5% chance we lose it...I figure that if I say it enough the sting won't be so bad... I thought we would lose this series, even after we won the first game. Now... I think we will win this series. I think they're playing a lot more like the 96 point team of last year (two years ago? how are we defining time now?), as opposed to the injury riddled 71 point team we most recently saw. More like the team that flew out of the gate in October and November with an 11-5 record, or something like that (there were some OT losses in there). Which means that this team is less likely to lose the next two. Not that it can't happen, but they've got a swagger about them now. They know they can win. Pittsburgh knows it too. They beat Pittsburgh. Plain and simple. Last night, they were the better team. Perhaps not by much, certainly not by much, but they were the better team nonetheless. And while Carey Price had to play well, he didn't have to be Halak-ian good. Overall, save for a brief stretch when it was 3-1 and it looked like Pittsburgh was about to run away with things, we stood mano-a-mano with them, and punched them in the nose. I want Lafreniere. I'm less enamored with the 9th overall, but I can see the benefit in getting it. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying the coming out party we are seeing for Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, Kulak, and even Chiarot, who was a beast again last night. I love seeing Jeff "Goal Caufield" Petry getting the recognition for being the true #1 defenseman that he is. I'm enjoying seeing how well a rested Carey Price and Shea Weber can play. I want Lafreniere, but I'm enjoying this series nonetheless. A part of me, Rocket help me, wants them to lose. But I don't want to see them get blown out in the next two games and destroy all the positives that have developed over the first three. But I also, for the sake of my heart, don't want close, overtime-decided games either. I am very conflicted.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 6, 2020 17:39:33 GMT -5
We all are. I don't remember any other time in my lifetime were losing was prefferable to winning. My nightmare is we win and then get swept. The Bolts are just too much for us. So what if we won one series, getting swept will set our swagger back down to baby crawl. The reason we are doing well with the Pigeons is that we match up physically and speed wise. Then shutting down their superstars is not the nog3htmare i thought it would be. Pleae forgive me Hockey Gods... ...GO SID GO
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Post by Skilly on Aug 6, 2020 17:39:45 GMT -5
So it’s official
Winner of Tampa vs Philly gets the #1 seed, loser gets #2 seed
Winner of Washington vs Boston gets #3 seed, loser gets #4 seed
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