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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 16:07:09 GMT -5
Losing the series 4-1 is as useful a confidence builder as a hemorrhoid. I'm trying desperately to hold on to any hope..... It's hard not to get too wrapped up into it, old friend ... it wasn't like our team 'earned' their way into the playoffs, it was actually handed to them by the league ... right now, they're trying their best but at the same time they're simply outmatched by a better team, certainly in the last two games, anyway ... I haven't given up on them but I'm trying not to expect too much from them ... Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 16:10:47 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew on Aug 18, 2020 16:16:01 GMT -5
Remember when Byron used to get shorthanded breakaways and score seemingly all the time. That's what we could use on this upcoming penalty kill.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 18, 2020 16:20:33 GMT -5
Losing the series 4-1 is as useful a confidence builder as a hemorrhoid. I'm trying desperately to hold on to any hope..... It's hard not to get too wrapped up into it, old friend ... it wasn't like our team 'earned' their way into the playoffs, it was actually handed to them by the league ... right now, they're trying their best but at the same time they're simply outmatched by a better team, certainly in the last two games, anyway ... I haven't given up on them but I'm trying not to expect too much from them ... Cheers. That’s where I am, Dis. Although...playing well against a better Pens’ team raised my “compete“ expectations. This PP is a last gasp.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 16:25:05 GMT -5
It feels like we won’t score again until December at this rate.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 18, 2020 16:32:16 GMT -5
I expect to see the same players, same coaches and same management next year... nothing more to say on that...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 16:33:16 GMT -5
It's hard not to get too wrapped up into it, old friend ... it wasn't like our team 'earned' their way into the playoffs, it was actually handed to them by the league ... right now, they're trying their best but at the same time they're simply outmatched by a better team, certainly in the last two games, anyway ... I haven't given up on them but I'm trying not to expect too much from them ... Cheers. That’s where I am, Dis. Although...playing well against a better Pens’ team raised my “compete“ expectations. This PP is a last gasp. The Flyer forwards look physically bigger than the Habs, and they really know what they're doing when they shut it down ... I'd like to see the series at 2-2 but it's turning into the " Michael Leighton" factor now ... Leighton was a minimal NHL goaltender who faced a near-completely gassed Habs team back in 2010 ... now it's Carter Hart who is looking like the next dominant goaltender in the NHL ... other than the bump in the road in Game 2, he's been near flawless, and he has a very structured team in front of him ... as with Leighton, Hart now has back-to-back shutouts ... a well-deserved win by the Flyers ... again ... Cheers.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 16:38:25 GMT -5
They get our hopes up, they rip our hearts out.
The emperor is still missing a lot of his wardrobe.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 18, 2020 16:40:05 GMT -5
The nonsense about "anything can happen" is simply false hope for losers.
The issue of scoring has not gone away...and never will under the Bbinz rule of failure.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 18, 2020 16:41:44 GMT -5
The nonsense about "anthing can happen" is simply false hope for losers. The issue of scoring has not gone away...and never will under the Bbinz rule of failure. Saying 'Anything can happen' is like saying 'winning the lottery is my pension plan'
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Post by seventeen on Aug 18, 2020 16:45:37 GMT -5
Don't put the number one unit out. It will hurt Vigneault's feelings. He wasn’t serious of course. It was an opportunity to light a fire under his guys and give them something to get pumped up about. Smart coaching. AV has done that before.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 16:48:11 GMT -5
We're just playing a team that knows what it's doing ... Al Vigneault has the system, and he has buy-in from his players ... I'm actually impressed with the structure the Flyers are showing in their game and that's on Vigneault ...
Cheers.
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Post by jkr on Aug 18, 2020 16:49:50 GMT -5
I expect to see the same players, same coaches and same management next year... nothing more to say on that... I guess it's too much to expect these displays of ineptitude to get Molson's attention. Six goals in 4 games & 5 of them in one game. And all Muller can do is shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 18, 2020 16:50:16 GMT -5
Losing the series 4-1 is as useful a confidence builder as a hemorrhoid. I'm trying desperately to hold on to any hope..... Losing the series is an incredible waste of 7 spots in the draft...,in each round. (How can you tell I’m still steaming). “But we beat Sid!” “Who gives a flying puck now”.
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Post by franko on Aug 18, 2020 16:56:43 GMT -5
Saying 'Anything can happen' is like saying 'winning the lottery is my pension plan' 35% of Canadians have that plan believe it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 17:01:13 GMT -5
Funny how they can't score against the Flyers in the playoffs. Looks like it's gonna be three straight series where they can only beat them once.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 18, 2020 17:02:31 GMT -5
Losing the series 4-1 is as useful a confidence builder as a hemorrhoid. I'm trying desperately to hold on to any hope..... Losing the series is an incredible waste of 7 spots in the draft...,in each round. (How can you tell I’m still steaming). “But we beat Sid!” “Who gives a flying puck now”. I don't have to rinse and repeat how much i hated losing those seven spots and the chance on a game changer. As for the "confidence building experience" for Suzuki and Kk, how is that working with 2 games of total failure? Or losing the series 4-1? Does their development come with a past due date? I will never buy that this was "a unique oppurtunity" to develop. Sadly...i'm stupid enough to hold out hope for a comeback, but if i had the choice as GM, i would make what to me is a black and white choice.....go for draft pick.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 18, 2020 17:08:07 GMT -5
Saying 'Anything can happen' is like saying 'winning the lottery is my pension plan' 35% of Canadians have that plan believe it or not. At my plant, there was a collective pot.....with the intent of giving the evil boss the collective finger if they won. So one day i saw the list on the lunchroom and penned in....SCREW THE BOSS. And then put a yellow stickit on top.. ..Good luck with that. Signed. The Boss.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 17:18:33 GMT -5
There is no doubt the Flyers are a very good defensive team. Good systems. Good coaching. Good execution by the players.
The Habs are making them look better though with their continued inability to generate and convert chances. This is not a new phenomenon. This team has been plagued with this for ages. I sure hope Berg and company do not sugarcoat this when moving forward. Still some big gaps to fill before we can feel that this team is really built for a long playoff run. And the two most playoff ready pieces are getting longer in the tooth.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 18, 2020 17:23:18 GMT -5
We now know why Muller has never been a successful coach in the NHL. When the game started and they put up the line combinations I was WTF. I didn't even want to watch, as I've seen the movie too many times before and it rarely ends well. Why would you reassemble the lines that had us as one of the worst teams in the league at the pause. AND WHY WOULD YOU PUT KK, OUR BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE PLAYOFFS, BETWEEN TWO OFFENSIVE DUDS IN LECKY AND BYRON? ? And what a surprise, half way through the game Muller realizes the lines are crap and then just starts winging it and trying anything and everything. And it's not as if we were outplayed last game - Flyers got a lucky goal and we hit numerous posts and Hart made some big saves. Why make any changes? Muller is a fool and further confirms that MB can't bring in good players or coaches.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 18, 2020 17:24:41 GMT -5
They get our hopes up, they rip our hearts out. The emperor is still missing a lot of his wardrobe. You are what your record says you are. 31-40-9 over 71 games and a -9 GF/GA differential. We ranked 12th in the Eastern Conference and 24th in the NHL out of 31 teams. Not just a non-playoff team but a true lottery team. That's who we were over 71 games. And we were fully deserving of that record. For some reason people decided to forget that. I'll just have to get over the 12.5% shot we missed out on and dropping in the draft order. Playoff experience is nice for guys like Suzuki and Kotkaniemi but it's a bit overrated too. If they are good enough they will emerge with or without these games. Nothing that happened in this bubble makes up for the mess Bergevin has presided over.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 18, 2020 17:27:59 GMT -5
Just to add to this whole thing because the entire premise is that the playoff experience would greatly benefit the kids. How much do you think this has helped Ryan Poehling and Noah Juulsen and Cale Fleury? I’m sure the added experience gained by Ouellet and Belzile and Weise will pay HUGE dividends in the future. Hmmmm. Could this experience thing be just another scam?
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 18, 2020 18:17:37 GMT -5
Just to add to this whole thing because the entire premise is that the playoff experience would greatly benefit the kids. How much do you think this has helped Ryan Poehling and Noah Juulsen and Cale Fleury? I’m sure the added experience gained by Ouellet and Belzile and Weise will pay HUGE dividends in the future. Hmmmm. Could this experience thing be just another scam? I've been pushing for the 3 youngins to get in there since the Pens series. Complete and utter mismanagement. May see Poehling next game - whip-di-doo Th only way not playing the kids helps our future is if MB recognizes who on the roster are no shows for playoffs and moves them - Drouin, Armia, Tatar, and maybe Domi. Fat chance of that happenning
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Post by Skilly on Aug 18, 2020 18:27:11 GMT -5
Personally, I’m blaming this on the “win this game for Julien” mentality they had. Like I said when they started talking like that after the win, it felt like the team had a mission accomplished attitude
They should have emerged from that game and told the reporters they didn’t want to talk about Julien until they actually accomplished something
Gallagher needs to take a long look in the mirror. 8 games and not a goal
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 18:49:49 GMT -5
The only blessing is that folks have not had to pay way overpriced tickets to sit in the stands and watch these boring defensive duels with two terrible PPs.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 18:50:12 GMT -5
I don’t see Muller finding any magic beans between today and tomorrow night. So might as well give guys like Poehling and Juulsen a game.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 19:15:42 GMT -5
It's hard for me to blame the players ... they hung with the Flyers in Game 1 and took it to them in Game 2 ... now, they're out there busting their butts off, but it hasn't been good enough for the past two games ... I don't have a crystal ball, but I suspect the Flyers would have shutout the Habs, anyway, even if Carey Price had not let in a stinker on the 2nd goal ... like I said, I don't know that for a fact, it's just a hunch given the way the Flyers played ... they're that good ... all that said, I'll take the Habs tomorrow night ... no option but to score some goals ...
Cheers.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 18, 2020 19:48:41 GMT -5
I say play the kids and see what happens... you're using house money now... wont happen though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 19:51:07 GMT -5
I say play the kids and see what happens... you're using house money now... wont happen though Pretty much. The vets aren't pulling through, so let's get the kids in and see how they fare.
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Post by folatre on Aug 18, 2020 22:13:44 GMT -5
A change or two or three for tomorrow night would certainly not be out of line. I hope Muller has common sense as well as the authority to exercise common sense if he has it.
A change or two or three for next season among the winger group on this roster is entirely warranted. Bergevin needs to be honest about everyone he is evaluating, even those guys that he probably to some extent feels connected and bound to. This organization needs a lot of things, sentimentality in decision making is not one of them.
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