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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 18, 2020 14:55:29 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Aug 18, 2020 16:35:24 GMT -5
At least we don’t have long to wait.
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 18, 2020 16:36:09 GMT -5
Be glad when this is over. Muller badly out coached.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 18, 2020 16:36:22 GMT -5
They are becoming the Montreal Why Bothers...
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 18, 2020 16:37:12 GMT -5
Be glad when this is over. Muller badly out coached. How do the 1st, 2nd and 3rd lines not have any success when you get last change the last 2 games?
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Aug 18, 2020 21:48:56 GMT -5
Be glad when this is over. Muller badly out coached. How do the 1st, 2nd and 3rd lines not have any success when you get last change the last 2 games? When you get to the playoffs anything can happen; except Molson addressing his biggest mistake and admitting he stuck with Bergevin too long and for no good reason. We try hard but lack the talent to compete. Every year we over value our young draft picks. Good trade, bad trade, mismanage contracts, better sushi, fewer seats, more condo towers, sell and remove bricks, charge extra for printed tickets, brag about openess, stick to the plan (what plan), keep gate receipts and keep under the cap, wait until next year next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, next year and tell the faithful you are sticking with your successful management team.
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Post by habsorbed on Aug 19, 2020 0:39:52 GMT -5
How do the 1st, 2nd and 3rd lines not have any success when you get last change the last 2 games? When you get to the playoffs anything can happen; except Molson addressing his biggest mistake and admitting he stuck with Bergevin too long and for no good reason. We try hard but lack the talent to compete. Every year we over value our young draft picks. Good trade, bad trade, mismanage contracts, better sushi, fewer seats, more condo towers, sell and remove bricks, charge extra for printed tickets, brag about openess, stick to the plan (what plan), keep gate receipts and keep under the cap, wait until next year next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, next year and tell the faithful you are sticking with your successful management team. There is no doubt that true to form Molson and MB will sell this past month as a huge success and full vindication of all their efforts. The focus of the spin will be on how great KK and Suze are, as is our future. But they will not address the complete ineptness of coaching, and our wingers, in particular Drouin, Armia, Domi, and Tatar. I'm cutting Gally some slack as I'm betting he's been playing hurt. And even if he's not hurt, we know his character and what he's capable of. The other wingers have never proven anything and confirmed our worst fears - they are not top 6 on a competitive team..
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 19, 2020 6:19:23 GMT -5
Be glad when this is over. Muller badly out coached. How do the 1st, 2nd and 3rd lines not have any success when you get last change the last 2 games? Players have no motivation at all. Totally unprepared. I never liked Muller as coach. He is living off his playing career. Thought Gallant was superior assistant than Muller.
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Post by franko on Aug 19, 2020 7:28:24 GMT -5
Players have no motivation at all. players earn millions of dollars a year. players are in the Stanley Cup freakin' Playoffs, chasing after hockey's holy grail. and they need someone to "motivate" them to play hard? there is a serious problem here.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Aug 19, 2020 8:22:11 GMT -5
Love that video at the top, Dis.
The 1988-89 Habs was one of my all time favorites. Probably the best Habs team that didn't win a Cup.
Check the blue line in that game: Larry Robinson, Chris Chelios, Rick Green, Craig Ludwig, Petr Svoboda and a young Eric Desjardins. That's a couple of Hall of Famers and probably four All Stars. Skilled, tough, a bit nasty... about as deep and balanced a D corps as you will find.
Almost makes me weep.
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 9:52:16 GMT -5
Players have no motivation at all. players earn millions of dollars a year. players are in the Stanley Cup freakin' Playoffs, chasing after hockey's holy grail. and they need someone to "motivate" them to play hard? there is a serious problem here. Somehow, i think you and i and probably many posters here versus these young multimillionaires are built very different. Excessive pride, desire and an uncontrolable hatred of losing are no longer a motivator and the core of who we grew up with in our old Habs.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 10:08:16 GMT -5
The icing on tonight's game will be if Chris Lee is one of the refs...
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 10:08:47 GMT -5
I'm a bit weary about Price's motivation. He's all business but he also just had a newborn. I wonder....really wonder how all-in he is on this series.
This isn't the 50s and 60s were players like the Richards put their personal lives on hold and played like their lives depended on winning.
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Post by jkr on Aug 19, 2020 10:28:39 GMT -5
Really?
Price is the only one I'm not worried about. As usual he has been the best player.
With a few exceptions, the team has let him down & by team, that includes Bergevin & his crew that put this punchless group together.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2020 12:03:29 GMT -5
Really? Price is the only one I'm not worried about. As usual he has been the best player. With a few exceptions, the team has let him down & by team, that includes Bergevin & his crew that put this punchless group together. It's a trend that's been WAY TOO HEAVY since the Roy trade. If you look at the Molson Cup winners in those 24 seasons, our goalies have won it 17 times. Seeing as the award winner leads the aggregate 3-star selections for the regular season, it's indicative of impact. Price leads the way with 9. It would no doubt be 11 (including all of Berg's tenure) had he not been injured early in the 2015-16 season, and not suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in 2017-18. ============================================= In contrast, over the first 23 years of the Molson Cup, our goalies won it 7 times. Roy with 4. Dryden, Thomas (in Dryden's year off), and Penney with 1 each. In our 7 Cup years during the Molson Cup's existence it was Dryden, Lafleur with 4, Naslund, and Muller. Imagine that! 6/7 times it was somebody who provided offence.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 12:11:49 GMT -5
Really? Price is the only one I'm not worried about. As usual he has been the best player. With a few exceptions, the team has let him down & by team, that includes Bergevin & his crew that put this punchless group together. It's a trend that's been WAY TOO HEAVY since the Roy trade. If you look at the Molson Cup winners in those 24 seasons, our goalies have won it 17 times. Seeing as the award winner leads the aggregate 3-star selections for the regular season, it's indicative of impact. Price leads the way with 9. It would no doubt be 11 (including all of Berg's tenure) had he not been injured early in the 2015-16 season, and not suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in 2017-18. ============================================= In contrast, over the first 23 years of the Molson Cup, our goalies won it 7 times. Roy with 4. Dryden, Thomas (in Dryden's year off), and Penney with 1 each. In our 7 Cup years during the Molson Cup's existence it was Dryden, Lafleur with 4, Naslund, and Muller. Imagine that! 6/7 times it was somebody who provided offence. Can you show this to Molson as justification for cleaning house please?
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2020 12:24:13 GMT -5
I know they're raw stats lacking analysis....e.g. Jeff Hackett's 2 Molson Cups were won during our injury-plagued years....but, by and large, it's been because of a dearth of scoring and/or poor D structure.
The puck stops at no one but the architects.
The 17 Molson Cup-winning goalies since the Roy trade.
Price 9 (If healthy, it arguably would've been 11). Theodore 4 Hackett 2 Huet 1 Halak 1
The other 7 winners.
Turgeon Recchi 2 Koivu Kovalev Galchenyuk (Price's absence in 2015-16) Gallagher (Price's CFS, or whatever was ailing him, in 2017-18)
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I'm not averse to having a top goalie....it'd just be nice to have a handful of commensurate skaters to join him.....relieve the constant pressure.
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Post by folatre on Aug 19, 2020 14:03:00 GMT -5
Love that video at the top, Dis. The 1988-89 Habs was one of my all time favorites. Probably the best Habs team that didn't win a Cup. Check the blue line in that game: Larry Robinson, Chris Chelios, Rick Green, Craig Ludwig, Petr Svoboda and a young Eric Desjardins. That's a couple of Hall of Famers and probably four All Stars. Skilled, tough, a bit nasty... about as deep and balanced a D corps as you will find. Almost makes me weep. I'm right there with you, man. And if you want to continue weeping, compare the wings on that team (Corson, Richer, Lemieux, McPhee, Gainey, Nasland, Walter, Keane, Gilchrist, Courtnall) to the Habs current group. I know expansion has diluted everyone's roster to an extent, but the comparison is nevertheless astounding and frankly depressing.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 19, 2020 14:13:00 GMT -5
I still think this group has some fight in them. Recipe for success: 1. Get the first goal; 2. Limit mistakes and don't give up any easy goals; 3. Catch a break or two.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2020 14:36:30 GMT -5
Love that video at the top, Dis. The 1988-89 Habs was one of my all time favorites. Probably the best Habs team that didn't win a Cup. Check the blue line in that game: Larry Robinson, Chris Chelios, Rick Green, Craig Ludwig, Petr Svoboda and a young Eric Desjardins. That's a couple of Hall of Famers and probably four All Stars. Skilled, tough, a bit nasty... about as deep and balanced a D corps as you will find. Almost makes me weep. I'm right there with you, man. And if you want to continue weeping, compare the wings on that team (Corson, Richer, Lemieux, McPhee, Gainey, Nasland, Walter, Keane, Gilchrist, Courtnall) to the Habs current group. I know expansion has diluted everyone's roster to an extent, but the comparison is nevertheless astounding and frankly depressing. That was Roy's first Molson Cup win, too. Following Naslund X2 and Richer. Put a today-comparable team in front of a hot Price. Akin to Dryden winning it in a Cup year (72-73).
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 19, 2020 14:46:11 GMT -5
I still think this group has some fight in them. Recipe for success: 1. Get the first goal; 2. Limit mistakes and don't give up any easy goals; 3. Catch a break or two. Could happen. Tough hill to climb. Will Muller's line blender be whirring away all game? Does it matter? Regardless...as always.... If Price is hot, we have a shot! (The optimistic rhyme to No Price, No Dice.)
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Post by jkr on Aug 19, 2020 14:51:06 GMT -5
I still think this group has some fight in them. Recipe for success: 1. Get the first goal; 2. Limit mistakes and don't give up any easy goals; 3. Catch a break or two. I would change point #2 - don't give up any goals.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 18:03:37 GMT -5
A lot of teams are getting downed in 5 games in this first round. Habs could be next.
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 19, 2020 18:14:45 GMT -5
Are you fellows watching the game tonight? I can't bring myself too. Seen enough last 2 games. I will PVR it though
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Post by GNick99 on Aug 19, 2020 18:17:47 GMT -5
A lot of teams are getting downed in 5 games in this first round. Habs could be next. Looks like Tampa vs Boston next round. Should be good series.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 18:25:11 GMT -5
A lot of teams are getting downed in 5 games in this first round. Habs could be next. Looks like Tampa vs Boston next round. Should be good series. I wonder which Tampa player will poke the big ugly bear
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 18:25:48 GMT -5
Are you fellows watching the game tonight? I can't bring myself too. Seen enough last 2 games. I will PVR it though I'll check the recap if they win, if not I'll read about it on here
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Post by folatre on Aug 19, 2020 18:29:35 GMT -5
The last two games were painful. I guess that I will watch because my son is fired up and believes tonight is the night. He's wearing his Gallagher #11 jersey.
Yeah, Tampa v Boston will be a war.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 19, 2020 18:33:50 GMT -5
The last two games were painful. I guess that I will watch because my son is fired up and believes tonight is the night. He's wearing his Gallagher #11 jersey. Yeah, Tampa v Boston will be a war. BGal was asked if he was injured and he said he wasn't... Got this from sportsnet Doesnt sound like a happy camper but I guess when your lumped in with Drouin you must be Saperlipopetteting the bed... nice to see Muller do that... Drouin should be sitting tonight anyways he's like a Dementor when he's on the ice... to his linemates and fans...
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Post by UberCranky on Aug 19, 2020 18:41:33 GMT -5
Fearless prediction that you can bet the house on...
Win or lose tonight, tomorrow and for the foreseeable future, Bbinz is the GM.
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