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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 11, 2021 17:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Apr 11, 2021 17:20:00 GMT -5
NOt going to provide a lot of scoring, but a real glue guy, IMO. Playoff type and he improves TO's left wing situation which was fairly bleak. Expensive, but it says TO is going for it this year. Makes sense given the age of some of the key defense guys.
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Post by jkr on Apr 11, 2021 17:36:42 GMT -5
What about their goaltending. Andersen is still injured and is a pending UFA. Do they really think Campbell is going to take them far?
Two firsts in 2 days for Columbus. Good work there.
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Post by folatre on Apr 11, 2021 17:38:17 GMT -5
Foligno is productive, plenty of jam and just enough skill that he can slot in with Tavares and Nylander.
Just like for Savard, the return seems good for Columbus. But man, the Blue Jackets are really starting to tear it down. I would have to believe Werenski and/or Jones could move at the draft or next year's trade deadline.
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Post by jkr on Apr 11, 2021 17:43:32 GMT -5
Foligno's scoring has been falling for a few years(only 7 this year) now but might pick up with a good centre. I saw Friedman several days ago & he sèemed convinced TO was after a goalie. What would they use now that they have dealt their first for 2nd-3rd line winger?
And with Dubois, Savard and Foligno traded will Laine stay? I can't see it.
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Post by folatre on Apr 11, 2021 17:57:29 GMT -5
In an ideal world, Columbus would have picked up a young centre already breaking through or at least ready to play in the league next season because that is really where they are deficient. And basically Laine is not putting up numbers in part because he has no one good to play with.
They may as well include Laine in the fire sale this summer because he is sulking and his qualifying offer will be astronomical (I believe it has to be at least the $7.5 million he took home this year).
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Post by Cranky on Apr 11, 2021 18:18:43 GMT -5
Anybody remember Ruzinsky? He only played when he felt like it, occasional played the 200 ft game and the rest of the time, he collected a paycheck. But when it came to his national team, he was an Allstar.
Laine reminds me of a better scoring version of Ruzinsky. On no planet is he worth the 9 million he's going to demand...and some extra stupid GM will pay.
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Post by jkr on Apr 11, 2021 18:28:11 GMT -5
Columbus is becoming the Expos of the NHL. Can develop top talent but can't keep it.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 11, 2021 19:09:34 GMT -5
There is some chatter that speculates that Foligno might sign back with Columbus this summer as a UFA, but man that team is getting gutted. Once he gets the taste of a competitive team, it might be really hard to convince him to come back.
Interesting to see what Kekko does with all those firsts. Once all that retained salary is off the books in the off season, he could start rebuilding fairly quickly with those assets in hand.
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Post by GNick99 on Apr 11, 2021 19:25:18 GMT -5
Leafs all in. Already best record in NHL adding couple of solid players. No cup in 54 years this is their chance. |
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Post by franko on Apr 11, 2021 22:30:14 GMT -5
And with Dubois, Savard and Foligno traded will Laine stay? I can't see it. if Torts is still around I can't see it. |
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Post by GNick99 on Apr 11, 2021 23:53:57 GMT -5
Sens got a 3rd for Reilly. I think I would rather have Merrill for a 5th.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 12, 2021 9:02:47 GMT -5
Sens got a 3rd for Reilly. I think I would rather have Merrill for a 5th. For sure. Really can still be scary in his zone. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 12, 2021 11:07:55 GMT -5
Leafs all in. Already best record in NHL adding couple of solid players. No cup in 54 years this is their chance. If they don't win it this year, I don't know what they'll have to do ... Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 12, 2021 15:16:59 GMT -5
The Laffs are all in.....and it would be the ULTIMATE kick in the head if we eliminate them.
I WILL walk down Younge Street with my Habs sweater.....
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 12, 2021 16:44:32 GMT -5
No doubt the Leafs have one of, if not the deepest forward corps in the league. But if I were them I'd be a little bit concerned about their goaltending, and a whole lot concerned about their defense. Is Campbell the real deal, or is he Patrick Lalime Redux? Can Anderson rebound from what has so far been a rather mediocre year? Rittich is an excellent pickup for them though, so that is some decent depth there.
On defense though, it gets a little thin. Solid enough top four, but after that it gets a little dicey. What's that saying? You need nine NHL defensemen for a Cup run? A couple of injuries on the blueline and they're down to Marincin and Sandin. More injuries than that and I'm don't know what they do. Take away Morgan Rielly and I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours. Heck, even with Morgan Rielly I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours, especially not if Petry regains his early season form.
I wouldn't want to face them in the first round... but if they take a beating in the early going I'm not sure they have enough depth there to go all the way. We shall see I guess.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 12, 2021 21:41:10 GMT -5
I think the Leafs covered a lot of bases by grabbing Foligno. Overpaid, of course, but that is the type of player the Leafs didn't have up front. Hyman is a grinder, and so is Simmonds. Nick is a grinder with a modicum of skill. Foligno also brings a lot of toughness with him. He and Simmonds should be effective deterrents. I agree with BC about the lack of depth at D.
Reilly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl (who is underrated)
Dermott - Bogosian - Hutton
Not sure they can sustain a deep run. They'll have to count on goaltending which is a giant question mark. One of the 3 will have to get hot.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 12, 2021 21:53:58 GMT -5
No doubt the Leafs have one of, if not the deepest forward corps in the league. But if I were them I'd be a little bit concerned about their goaltending, and a whole lot concerned about their defense. Is Campbell the real deal, or is he Patrick Lalime Redux? Can Anderson rebound from what has so far been a rather mediocre year? Rittich is an excellent pickup for them though, so that is some decent depth there. On defense though, it gets a little thin. Solid enough top four, but after that it gets a little dicey. What's that saying? You need nine NHL defensemen for a Cup run? A couple of injuries on the blueline and they're down to Marincin and Sandin. More injuries than that and I'm don't know what they do. Take away Morgan Rielly and I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours. Heck, even with Morgan Rielly I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours, especially not if Petry regains his early season form. I wouldn't want to face them in the first round... but if they take a beating in the early going I'm not sure they have enough depth there to go all the way. We shall see I guess. Actually, all it takes us 1 injury to impact them, if Marner goes down they will struggle, his timing with Matthews is elite. |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 13, 2021 16:04:09 GMT -5
We could of had Bennett and he is a heat seeking missile in the playoffs. Same thing for Woods. Actually, between them, they make Anderson look tame.
If you can't make a better sand castle, make sure you got the guys who will stomp on the others guys creation.....with both feet.
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Post by franko on Apr 13, 2021 17:03:28 GMT -5
We could of had Bennett and he is a heat seeking missile in the playoffs. Same thing for Woods. Actually, between them, they make Anderson look tame. Bennett has been another Drouin this year, don't need another one |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 13, 2021 22:03:40 GMT -5
No doubt the Leafs have one of, if not the deepest forward corps in the league. But if I were them I'd be a little bit concerned about their goaltending, and a whole lot concerned about their defense. Is Campbell the real deal, or is he Patrick Lalime Redux? Can Anderson rebound from what has so far been a rather mediocre year? Rittich is an excellent pickup for them though, so that is some decent depth there. On defense though, it gets a little thin. Solid enough top four, but after that it gets a little dicey. What's that saying? You need nine NHL defensemen for a Cup run? A couple of injuries on the blueline and they're down to Marincin and Sandin. More injuries than that and I'm don't know what they do. Take away Morgan Rielly and I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours. Heck, even with Morgan Rielly I'm not sure their blueline is better than ours, especially not if Petry regains his early season form. I wouldn't want to face them in the first round... but if they take a beating in the early going I'm not sure they have enough depth there to go all the way. We shall see I guess. These are good points, BC ... I don't know the TO defence corps all that well, so I can't comment on that; however, I was never sold on Frederik Anderson and Jack Campbell has started to look mortal recently ... also saw the Leafs get outworked against Calgary tonight, similarly to the way Montreal did the other night ... anyway, they look to be the favourites in the North Division ... we'll see where it goes, I guess ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 13, 2021 22:05:03 GMT -5
The Laffs are all in.....and it would be the ULTIMATE kick in the head if we eliminate them. I WILL walk down Younge Street with my Habs sweater..... This is an actual concern to some Leaf fans I know ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 14, 2021 13:51:49 GMT -5
The Laffs are all in.....and it would be the ULTIMATE kick in the head if we eliminate them. I WILL walk down Younge Street with my Habs sweater..... This is an actual concern to some Leaf fans I know ... Cheers. I know all Leaf fans, and Torontonians in general, would be concerned if all Cranky wore was a Habs jersey while walking down Younge street, especially if it was bGal jersey |
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Post by Cranky on Apr 14, 2021 17:01:38 GMT -5
This is an actual concern to some Leaf fans I know ... Cheers. I know all Leaf fans, and Torontonians in general, would be concerned if all Cranky wore was a Habs jersey while walking down Younge street, especially if it was bGal jersey Listen up Mr Dog, as if that is your real name, HAB man don't wear skinny jeans. REAL HAB man go commando! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 14, 2021 17:52:44 GMT -5
I know all Leaf fans, and Torontonians in general, would be concerned if all Cranky wore was a Habs jersey while walking down Younge street, especially if it was bGal jersey Listen up Mr Dog, as if that is your real name, HAB man don't wear skinny jeans. REAL HAB man go commando! Lol... au naturel |
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Post by GNick99 on Apr 15, 2021 7:49:34 GMT -5
Foligno what Leafs need. If we meet them in playoffs we have a shot. As shown by Monday game.
Leafs more finesse team. Not liking physical going. Really liked Romanov hit on Reilly. It seemed to really jar Morgan as he immediately went to bench. Takes instincts to time that right. I remember Romanov nailed Sens Brannstrom earily in season also. I think points will come as Romanov matures.
Leafs weren't the same after. Well, Anderson did lay a nice hit earily though. Weber took Matthew's out of game our first game of year. He annihilated Malkin last year in playoffs also. I am hoping for a matchup.
Leafs Gave up a first but Foligno likely be big addiction for playoffs.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 15, 2021 10:31:51 GMT -5
Foligno will target guys like Romanov, KK, Suze... need Chiarot/Edmunson to lay him out, I'd suggest Weber but he doesnt do that...
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Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2021 12:49:07 GMT -5
Foligno would likely kick the crap out of Chiarot or Edmundson. He's like a Robinson. Doeesn't fight a lot, but don't poke the bear. I think he will negate a lot of that "hit Matthews and take him out of the game" In any case, Matthews has played a lot of NHL games. If it was that easy to negate him teams would have done it ages ago. I suspect he simply had a bad game.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 15, 2021 17:38:14 GMT -5
Foligno would likely kick the crap out of Chiarot or Edmundson. He's like a Robinson. Doeesn't fight a lot, but don't poke the bear. I think he will negate a lot of that "hit Matthews and take him out of the game" In any case, Matthews has played a lot of NHL games. If it was that easy to negate him teams would have done it ages ago. I suspect he simply had a bad game. I think your right about Chiarot but Edmunson is a better fighter than him. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 16, 2021 11:50:02 GMT -5
Foligno would likely kick the crap out of Chiarot or Edmundson. He's like a Robinson. Doeesn't fight a lot, but don't poke the bear. I remember thinking that Nathan Beaulieu's career might have dipped at this point ... I felt bad for Beaulieu, because he'd been picking up for his teammates all year, then he met Nick Foligno ... ... "he's stunned a little"... |
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