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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 29, 2022 11:00:08 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 29, 2022 11:09:25 GMT -5
Does Chris get cancelled now?
I know he is in the media and he shouldn't have done it and TSN690 probably made him issue the apology, but isn't that the same reaction from almost every Habs fan?
Given what Chris had to do to stay in the NHL along with many others from his day and before, I understand his reaction and frustration.
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Post by franko on Mar 29, 2022 11:43:21 GMT -5
Does Chris get cancelled now? I know he is in the media and he shouldn't have done it and TSN690 probably made him issue the apology, but isn't that the same reaction from almost every Habs fan? Chris was fired from TSN because he wouldn't be vaccinated . . . unless he's back? |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 13:41:04 GMT -5
The red flags were flapping breezily when Bergie traded for JD. He should have known better. Tampa had worked with him for 3 years, and they were ready to move him out, not just for CAP reasons. Bergie didn't do enough due diligence. No doubt the desire for a Quebec kid star over rode any trepidation he should have had. Its hindsight, of course, but there were a lot of naysayers at the time, for good reason. Sigh.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 29, 2022 15:55:29 GMT -5
Does Chris get cancelled now? I know he is in the media and he shouldn't have done it and TSN690 probably made him issue the apology, but isn't that the same reaction from almost every Habs fan? Chris was fired from TSN because he wouldn't be vaccinated . . . unless he's back? I didn't know that he got fired... I checked the tsn690 site and he's not there... regarding not getting vaccinated, he couldn't call in? It's not like he worked as my controls or anything. |
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Post by jkr on Mar 29, 2022 16:14:17 GMT -5
The red flags were flapping breezily when Bergie traded for JD. He should have known better. Tampa had worked with him for 3 years, and they were ready to move him out, not just for CAP reasons. Bergie didn't do enough due diligence. No doubt the desire for a Quebec kid star over rode any trepidation he should have had. Its hindsight, of course, but there were a lot of naysayers at the time, for good reason. Sigh. The red flag for me was Drouin being sent to the minors by TB & then refusing to report. Bergevin brushed that off. To add insult to injury Sergachev is now making less than Drouin. As for what Nilan said, well sometimes you have to speak up. Keeping your mouth closed doesn't make the problem go away. |
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Post by franko on Mar 29, 2022 16:18:28 GMT -5
Chris was fired from TSN because he wouldn't be vaccinated . . . unless he's back? I didn't know that he got fired... I checked the tsn690 site and he's not there... regarding not getting vaccinated, he couldn't call in? It's not like he worked as my controls or anything. Bell Media decision . . . all employees needed to be vaccinated, even while they were working from home. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 17:09:42 GMT -5
I like Chris' opinion on a lot of things, but he is seriously wrong on the vaccination front. As he says in the video, he's made a lot of mistakes over his life, and this is another to add to the list.
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Post by drkcloud on Mar 29, 2022 18:40:33 GMT -5
Could care less on his opinions on vaccination. I think he's wrong but it's a free country right.
I do respect his opinion as a hockey player. I wish Drouin had a tiny sliver of the heart that Nilan played with, and he could play, tough guy or not.
And his opinion on Drouin is legitimate, and I think, bang on.
Too bad he caved and retracted what he said. Offending someone nowadays is the worst sin.
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Post by HABsurd on Mar 29, 2022 20:48:14 GMT -5
Could care less on his opinions on vaccination. I think he's wrong but it's a free country right. I do respect his opinion as a hockey player. I wish Drouin had a tiny sliver of the heart that Nilan played with, and he could play, tough guy or not. And his opinion on Drouin is legitimate, and I think, bang on. Too bad he caved and retracted what he said. Offending someone nowadays is the worst sin. A greater sin is to mock someone on social media when you would not say it to their face. |
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Post by drkcloud on Mar 29, 2022 21:01:15 GMT -5
Could care less on his opinions on vaccination. I think he's wrong but it's a free country right. I do respect his opinion as a hockey player. I wish Drouin had a tiny sliver of the heart that Nilan played with, and he could play, tough guy or not. And his opinion on Drouin is legitimate, and I think, bang on. Too bad he caved and retracted what he said. Offending someone nowadays is the worst sin. A greater sin is to mock someone on social media when you would not say it to their face. I have no doubt he would say it to his face and more but probably better to keep it private |
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Post by HABsurd on Mar 29, 2022 21:18:37 GMT -5
A greater sin is to mock someone on social media when you would not say it to their face. I have no doubt he would say it to his face and more but probably better to keep it private I like to think that Nilan would treat those he meets in person with respect and manners — not mock them. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 29, 2022 21:42:50 GMT -5
I have no doubt he would say it to his face and more but probably better to keep it private I like to think that Nilan would treat those he meets in person with respect and manners — not mock them. I met Chris Nilan once. He seemed like a nice enough guy I have this homemade Montreal Canadiens symbol , made of wood. Painted. I took it down to an old timers game (2003ish) hoping to get a few Habs signatures on it. Nilan was on the bench before the game, lingering around ....so I went down to the bench, and got him to sign it. When I got back to my seat, I realized he signed the back of it. I wanted his signature on the front , the painted side everyone will see. I asked my wife to go down and see if he'd sign the side I wanted, but she laughed and said you go. So I went down, and he came back to the bench eventually, and I asked if he'd sign the painted side. He said "I just signed this, I didn't want to ruin it with my signature" and he was laughing as he said this, and signed it again. Right in the middle. A couple years later (2005), I met Bob Gainey and got him to sign it too. He had a nice chuckle at Nilan being the first signature on it ... To this day, they are still the only two signatures on it |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 22:13:22 GMT -5
Could care less on his opinions on vaccination. I think he's wrong but it's a free country right. Unfortunately, Covid is one of those things where a citizen's responsibility outweigh's their 'rights'. Smoking only threatens the smoker, unless it's second hand smoke and we've dealt with that as a society. If Covid only affected the unvaccinated and the unmasked, I'd say fill your boots, but it doesn't. I won't reply to any rebuttals on this, but it boils down to decisions. Nilan's hurts himself and others. That's not smart. His employer has a sensible policy to protect the large majority of it's workers (and to ensure they don't face massive litigation issues) and if he refuses to follow it, then he loses whatever connection he had with that employer. Bye bye. I'll find someone else whose opinion I value who IS in the public eye. I don't follow Chris on Twitter btw. I didn't follow him before Covid either. There's only so many minutes in a day. Discipline. PS. But I did enjoy his panel discussions with Stu Cowan, etc. |
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Post by folatre on Mar 29, 2022 22:16:27 GMT -5
I am not big on using one's social media platform to flame someone, even when the substance of or opinion being leveled is 75+ percent true. I get it that Nilan is part of the expansive media in this day and age, but offering an apology is the right thing to do and I respect him for that.
I did not like the Drouin trade from day one. And it is not because I hate the player per se. Yes, there were red flags in Tampa. But even more than that, I simply do not like trading a rarer asset (big, mobile, super skilled d-man for a smallish, super skilled winger) for a less rare asset. D-men of that ilk are always worth than non-elite wingers. And the salt on the wound is that not only Sergachev has not only been younger, cheaper, and hoisting Cups all these years, but he has literally more points than Drouin since the trade.
I have an old buddy who is a Sabres fan and he always brings up that trade and needles me about whether Habs fans would rather have Alzner and Drouin over Sergachev and Radulov. Man, Bergevin had a few bright moments (summer of 2020), but Dear Lord his summer of 2017 was awful, abjectly awful.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 22:18:43 GMT -5
I like to think that Nilan would treat those he meets in person with respect and manners — not mock them. I met Chris Nilan once. He seemed like a nice enough guy I have this homemade Montreal Canadiens symbol , made of wood. Painted. I took it down to an old timers game (2003ish) hoping to get a few Habs signatures on it. Nilan was on the bench before the game, lingering around ....so I went down to the bench, and got him to sign it. When I got back to my seat, I realized he signed the back of it. I wanted his signature on the front , the painted side everyone will see. I asked my wife to go down and see if he'd sign the side I wanted, but she laughed and said you go. So I went down, and he came back to the bench eventually, and I asked if he'd sign the painted side. He said "I just signed this, I didn't want to ruin it with my signature" and he was laughing as he said this, and signed it again. Right in the middle. A couple years later (2005), I met Bob Gainey and got him to sign it too. He had a nice chuckle at Nilan being the first signature on it ... To this day, they are still the only two signatures on it Two key guys on that 86 team. Nilan had 141 penalty minutes in 18 games in those playoffs. That's almost 8 PIM's per game. I wonder if that's a record? That would work out to 642 PIM in a full season today. Wow! |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 29, 2022 22:29:32 GMT -5
Chris Nilan made a decision not to take the vaccine because of existing medical conditions ... from the Montreal Gazette ... Cheers ... “After consultation with my doctor and based upon my medical conditions, I have decided not to take the shot,” Nilan wrote. “I sought a medical exemption and was denied.”
Nilan did not specify what those medical conditions are. Link ...
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 22:37:40 GMT -5
I am not big on using one's social media platform to flame someone, even when the substance of or opinion being leveled is 75+ percent true. I get it that Nilan is part of the expansive media in this day and age, but offering an apology is the right thing to do and I respect him for that. I did not like the Drouin trade from day one. And it is not because I hate the player per se. Yes, there were red flags in Tampa. But even more than that, I simply do not like trading a rarer asset (big, mobile, super skilled d-man for a smallish, super skilled winger) for a less rare asset. D-men of that ilk are always worth than non-elite wingers. And the salt on the wound is that not only Sergachev has not only been younger, cheaper, and hoisting Cups all these years, but he has literally more points than Drouin since the trade. I have an old buddy who is a Sabres fan and he always brings up that trade and needles me about whether Habs fans would rather have Alzner and Drouin over Sergachev and Radulov. Man, Bergevin had a few bright moments (summer of 2020), but Dear Lord his summer of 2017 was awful, abjectly awful. His ego at work again. That was the summer after the 103 point season where I'm sure he thought it was all due to him. He brings in Radulov; Byron has his 20 goal season and plays 81 games; he had given up Alex Debrincat (I know, I know  ) for Andrew Shaw and that was working out as Shaw had his healthiest season, 68 games; he had fired Therrien and we now had Julien. Of course he would think it was all him. What he ignored was that Carey had played 62 games that year and put up a .923 save percentage. Or should I say that management wore him out, playing him that much? Our top scorer, Patches, scored 35 goals and 67 points. Radulov had 54 points, but the third highest scorer on the team was Chucky, with 44 points (albeit in 61 games). Paul Byron was 4th with 43 points in 81 games. That should have been a red flag right there. And then he lets Radulov, his only offensive play driver, leave for nothing. When you have so many decisions work out well for you, its all you, right? Well, the pendulum swings both ways, and it did. Downhill since then. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 29, 2022 22:43:13 GMT -5
Chris Nilan made a decision not to take the vaccine because of existing medical conditions ... from the Montreal Gazette ... Cheers ... “After consultation with my doctor and based upon my medical conditions, I have decided not to take the shot,” Nilan wrote. “I sought a medical exemption and was denied.”
Nilan did not specify what those medical conditions are. Link ... Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way  |
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 30, 2022 0:43:29 GMT -5
As everyone knows, I have no time for Mr. Softie and haven't for years now. And I don't have much time for Nilan who is basically a 'shock jock'. So Nilan mocks Drouin's softness and he has to issue an apology. Maybe Drouin will tell Will Smith about what Nilan did - that would be a good scrap. Talk about 'cancel culture'. If you can't have an opinion about a professional athlete, particularly a critical one, then I think we've lost our way. I guess everyone would just prefer the Eric Engels of the world who just spew the party line. I don't usually like 'shock jocks', but they do serve a purpose in challenging 'traditional thinking". They are often wrong but they do get people to think. Does anyone think Drouin is going to prove Nilan wrong?
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Post by Polarice on Mar 30, 2022 6:09:29 GMT -5
Chris Nilan made a decision not to take the vaccine because of existing medical conditions ... from the Montreal Gazette ... Cheers ... “After consultation with my doctor and based upon my medical conditions, I have decided not to take the shot,” Nilan wrote. “I sought a medical exemption and was denied.”
Nilan did not specify what those medical conditions are. Link ... Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way He mentioned on the show that because of his injuries he's prone to blood clots. One of the major side effects from an MRNA vaccine is blood clots. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 30, 2022 9:34:50 GMT -5
Chris Nilan made a decision not to take the vaccine because of existing medical conditions ... from the Montreal Gazette ... Cheers ... “After consultation with my doctor and based upon my medical conditions, I have decided not to take the shot,” Nilan wrote. “I sought a medical exemption and was denied.”
Nilan did not specify what those medical conditions are. Link ... Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way 's personal medical conditions are none of my business ... he'd know what's good for himself ... Cheers. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 30, 2022 10:59:18 GMT -5
Chris Nilan made a decision not to take the vaccine because of existing medical conditions ... from the Montreal Gazette ... Cheers ... “After consultation with my doctor and based upon my medical conditions, I have decided not to take the shot,” Nilan wrote. “I sought a medical exemption and was denied.”
Nilan did not specify what those medical conditions are. Link ... Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way In NL there was only three medical exemptions permissible 1) an allergist/immunologist confirmed severe allergy 2) an anaphylactic reaction to a previous dose of COVID 19 vaccine 3) diagnosed episode of myocarditis/ pericarditis after receiving an MNRA vaccine |
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Post by HABsurd on Mar 30, 2022 11:36:53 GMT -5
Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way He mentioned on the show that because of his injuries he's prone to blood clots. One of the major side effects from an MRNA vaccine is blood clots. I don't believe this is correct. There was some concern about the blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, but that is not mRNA technology. Studies have shown that blood clotting is not linked to either the BionTech/Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. BTW Covid does cause blood clotting at a far higher rate than the AstraZeneca vaccine |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 30, 2022 12:46:19 GMT -5
Interesting. I have a medical condition too and the reverse logic holds for me. Contracting Covid could very well kill me, so it makes sense to be vaccinated. I've had 4 shots. Does anyone know what medical conditions could be exacerbated by an MRNA vaccine? And how prevalent that condition is? We've seen those news stories of Doctors providing exemption letters ad nauseum. Color me skeptical, regardless of what Chris says. But I'm naturally that way 's personal medical conditions are none of my business ... he'd know what's good for himself ... Cheers. Normally, I'd agree completely Dis. As we know, though, when a pandemic is involved, these things can become everyone's business. If I ended up infected with a pandemic disease because some other guy refused to take the precautions most of the rest of society is doing (allowing for some specific, very few exemptions), I'd be ticked. But this thread shouldn't turn into a Covid debate. Drouin doesn't have Covid and Nilan was questioning an organ of his. I've never had to deal with mental health issues, so I'll stay out of that debate too. I can still say it was a crappy trade. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Mar 30, 2022 12:54:48 GMT -5
I like to think that Nilan would treat those he meets in person with respect and manners — not mock them. I met Chris Nilan once. He seemed like a nice enough guy I have this homemade Montreal Canadiens symbol , made of wood. Painted. I took it down to an old timers game (2003ish) hoping to get a few Habs signatures on it. Nilan was on the bench before the game, lingering around ....so I went down to the bench, and got him to sign it. When I got back to my seat, I realized he signed the back of it. I wanted his signature on the front , the painted side everyone will see. I asked my wife to go down and see if he'd sign the side I wanted, but she laughed and said you go. So I went down, and he came back to the bench eventually, and I asked if he'd sign the painted side. He said "I just signed this, I didn't want to ruin it with my signature" and he was laughing as he said this, and signed it again. Right in the middle. A couple years later (2005), I met Bob Gainey and got him to sign it too. He had a nice chuckle at Nilan being the first signature on it ... To this day, they are still the only two signatures on it Chris Nilan's comments were insensitive and offensive to all the people who suffer from the medical conditions splinters and coughs. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 30, 2022 13:21:47 GMT -5
I met Chris Nilan once. He seemed like a nice enough guy I have this homemade Montreal Canadiens symbol , made of wood. Painted. I took it down to an old timers game (2003ish) hoping to get a few Habs signatures on it. Nilan was on the bench before the game, lingering around ....so I went down to the bench, and got him to sign it. When I got back to my seat, I realized he signed the back of it. I wanted his signature on the front , the painted side everyone will see. I asked my wife to go down and see if he'd sign the side I wanted, but she laughed and said you go. So I went down, and he came back to the bench eventually, and I asked if he'd sign the painted side. He said "I just signed this, I didn't want to ruin it with my signature" and he was laughing as he said this, and signed it again. Right in the middle. A couple years later (2005), I met Bob Gainey and got him to sign it too. He had a nice chuckle at Nilan being the first signature on it ... To this day, they are still the only two signatures on it Chris Nilan's comments were insensitive and offensive to all the people who suffer from the medical conditions splinters and coughs. To quote Larry the Cable Guy... That's funny right there... |
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Post by Cranky on Mar 30, 2022 18:05:57 GMT -5
Apparently in 2022, you have to apologize for speaking the truth......
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Post by Cranky on Mar 30, 2022 18:08:59 GMT -5
Chris Nilan's personal medical conditions are none of my business ... he'd know what's good for himself ... Cheers. Apparently now everyone has this new human right to get triggered and attack what others believe. |
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Post by PTH on Mar 30, 2022 22:53:19 GMT -5
He mentioned on the show that because of his injuries he's prone to blood clots. One of the major side effects from an MRNA vaccine is blood clots. I don't believe this is correct. There was some concern about the blood clots linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, but that is not mRNA technology. Studies have shown that blood clotting is not linked to either the BionTech/Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. BTW Covid does cause blood clotting at a far higher rate than the AstraZeneca vaccine That's correct. But I don't think Nilan cared so much about actual facts as just finding a legit-finding excuse for being part of the people prolonging the pandemic. |
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) for Andrew Shaw and that was working out as Shaw had his healthiest season, 68 games; he had fired Therrien and we now had Julien. Of course he would think it was all him. What he ignored was that Carey had played 62 games that year and put up a .923 save percentage. Or should I say that management wore him out, playing him that much? Our top scorer, Patches, scored 35 goals and 67 points. Radulov had 54 points, but the third highest scorer on the team was Chucky, with 44 points (albeit in 61 games). Paul Byron was 4th with 43 points in 81 games. That should have been a red flag right there. And then he lets Radulov, his only offensive play driver, leave for nothing. When you have so many decisions work out well for you, its all you, right? Well, the pendulum swings both ways, and it did. Downhill since then. 
