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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:17:21 GMT -5
Clague, wideman and perrault... munchkins on ice
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Post by drkcloud on Apr 21, 2022 19:21:30 GMT -5
Carey Price dropping to his knees at every flinch. Doing his part for a top 3 pick at 10.5 million per.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:24:18 GMT -5
This game would have made Claude Julien pull his hair out
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:25:43 GMT -5
Carey Price dropping to his knees at every flinch. Doing his part for a top 3 pick at 10.5 million per. I agree he drops faster than a $2 call girl... that was a screened shot though... it had some weight behind it as well |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:35:32 GMT -5
Thank you Carey for helping the tank with that 4th goal
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Post by jkr on Apr 21, 2022 19:37:33 GMT -5
Those 3 players went to Philly for Recchi and a 3rd. Montreal traded Recchi back to Philly in 1999 for Zubrus and a 2nd. The end result is what I posted Sorry, I missed your point completely. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:38:20 GMT -5
Apparently it is reviewable... strange it wasn't challenged. Maybe Philly wants to get a top 3 pick too Sportsnet said Philly wanted to challenge... Yeo was told he couldn't challenge |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 21, 2022 19:39:02 GMT -5
The end result is what I posted Sorry, I missed your point completely. No worries mon ami... I should have done the math better... lol |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2022 19:43:44 GMT -5
Gole Smurf has gone ice Coled
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 21, 2022 20:01:05 GMT -5
Desjardins, Leclair and Dionne for Zubrus... jeebus What I remember walking into the Riverside Pub after the Marc Recchi/ Danius Zubrus trade, and I saw the owner ... he's a huge Habs fan and when he looked at me, I pumped my fist in the air and said, "ZUBRUS!!" ... he just hung and shook his head ... not only did they get LeClair, but they eventually got Recchi back near the end of his 4-year contract ... quel bummer ... Cheers. |
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Post by drkcloud on Apr 21, 2022 20:24:01 GMT -5
Flyers have allowed an average of 4.60 goals per game over their last ten games. Big sample size
Naturally we can't manage half that with our anemic offense.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2022 20:38:08 GMT -5
This game would have made Claude Julien pull his hair out What hair? |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2022 20:42:23 GMT -5
Thank you Carey for helping the tank with that 4th goal .824 save percentage…..so far. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2022 20:45:25 GMT -5
Losing to the most dysfunctional franchise in the NHL. Perfect.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2022 20:50:08 GMT -5
Caufield's goal, his 19th goal and 39th point, ties him with Mario Tremblay, Mike McPhee and Keith Acton for 28th on the all time Habs rookie scoring list.
Last Habs rookies to get 20 goals
Chris Higgins - 23 - 2005/06
Michael Ryder - 25 - 2003/04
Valeri Bure - 22 - 1995/96
Saku Koivu - 20 - 1995/96
Gilbert Dionne - 21 - 1991/92
Stephane Richer - 21 - 1985/86
Kjell Dahlin - 32 - 1985/86
Last Habs rookies to get 40 points
Nick Suzuki - 41 - 2019/20
Michael Ryder - 63 - 2003/04
Saku Koivu - 45 - 1995/96
Valeri Bure - 42 - 1995/96
Kjell Dahlin - 71 - 1985/86
Tom Kurvers - 45 - 1984/85
John Chabot - 43 - 1983/84
Mats Naslund - 71 - 1982/83
Guy Carbonneau - 47 - 1982/83
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Post by folatre on Apr 21, 2022 21:00:19 GMT -5
Not that it was anything less than a full team effort in terms of playing terrible hockey, but there is no getting around the fact that Price was seriously off tonight.
Harris should play in the remaining games. I hope Barron is healthy to play as well. With suspension now served, get Pezzetta back in there too. It might sound harsh, but there is not much of a future-looking (strategic) angle for playing Clague, Wideman, Perreault, and T. Pitlick.
On the bright side, Montreal is virtually a mortal lock to finish no higher than 31st in the league. Of course, the lottery is a lottery so the Habs will still be more likely to pick 3rd or 4th than 1st or 2nd. But better odds cannot hurt on May 10.
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2022 22:12:34 GMT -5
Not that it was anything less than a full team effort in terms of playing terrible hockey, but there is no getting around the fact that Price was seriously off tonight. Harris should play in the remaining games. I hope Barron is healthy to play as well. With suspension now served, get Pezzetta back in there too. It might sound harsh, but there is not much of a future-looking (strategic) angle for playing Clague, Wideman, Perreault, and T. Pitlick. On the bright side, Montreal is virtually a mortal lock to finish no higher than 31st in the league. Of course, the lottery is a lottery so the Habs will still be more likely to pick 3rd or 4th than 1st or 2nd. But better odds cannot hurt on May 10. I must be the only person that thinks that THIS is the real Carey Price. He has given no indication over the past few years , save for the playoff run last year that sent him into addiction, that he is any better than this. I'm sorry. When I heard Price was going to play this year, I knew they weren't going to win on the same pace as they were under MSL. Everyone has this faulty logic that Carey will hide warts and steal games. Not anymore. If the team doesn't play balls to the wall defense and forechecking like they do with the second and third stringers then they will not make up for the 2 bad goals a game RSCP gives up |
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Post by franko on Apr 21, 2022 22:12:44 GMT -5
Those 3 players went to Philly for Recchi and a 3rd. Montreal traded Recchi back to Philly in 1999 for Zubrus and a 2nd. Sooooo if we assume a 2nd and 3rd are saw offs .... Mathematically we have Desjardins + LeClair + Dionne = Recchi Recchi = Zubrus So substituting the end result of the trade becomes Desjardins + LeClair + Dionne = Zubrus I wonder if Steve Dangle ever did that trade tree ... when I'm over happy and need a good cry, I could watch it LeClair, Desjardins and Dionne for Zubrus, Matt Carkner, Martin Hohenberger Scott Selig, and a couple years of Recchi |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 21, 2022 22:21:54 GMT -5
Sooooo if we assume a 2nd and 3rd are saw offs .... Mathematically we have Desjardins + LeClair + Dionne = Recchi Recchi = Zubrus So substituting the end result of the trade becomes Desjardins + LeClair + Dionne = Zubrus I wonder if Steve Dangle ever did that trade tree ... when I'm over happy and need a good cry, I could watch it LeClair, Desjardins and Dionne for Zubrus, Matt Carkner, Martin Hohenberger Scott Selig, and a couple years of Recchi Oh boy I said if we consider the picks a wash ....are they a wash? Carkner. 0 games with MTL , 0 GP with PHI , signed as a free agent with SJS .... Hohenberger , 0 games in the NHL Selig. 0 games in the NHL So yeah ...the picks and toss in were a wash. No one got any benefit from them at all Now, I don't know why Recchi's games with MTL get counted in the trade for Zubrus ....shouldn't the games of all the others be included too? Recchi was involved in both trades, that's why he gets cancelled out |
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Post by franko on Apr 22, 2022 6:23:56 GMT -5
LeClair, Desjardins and Dionne for Zubrus, Matt Carkner, Martin Hohenberger Scott Selig, and a couple years of Recchi Oh boy I said if we consider the picks a wash ....are they a wash? Carkner. 0 games with MTL , 0 GP with PHI , signed as a free agent with SJS .... Hohenberger , 0 games in the NHL Selig. 0 games in the NHL So yeah ...the picks and toss in were a wash. No one got any benefit from them at all Now, I don't know why Recchi's games with MTL get counted in the trade for Zubrus ....shouldn't the games of all the others be included too? Recchi was involved in both trades, that's why he gets cancelled out Rechii's rental counts b/c that's part of what the Habs got in the deal. so what was worse: the Rechii trade(s) or the Roy trade? |
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Post by PTH on Apr 22, 2022 8:57:34 GMT -5
Harris should play in the remaining games. I hope Barron is healthy to play as well. With suspension now served, get Pezzetta back in there too. It might sound harsh, but there is not much of a future-looking (strategic) angle for playing Clague, Wideman, Perreault, and T. Pitlick. Barron is out for the year, as I understand it. I wonder if there's a 10 game limit in some way, for Harris - not that his contract slides as such, but for something like arbitration or UFA eligibility. I agree that we need to play actual kids when possible, though I'd count Clague in there. Gotta know if he's worth bringing back and investing time into. |
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Post by folatre on Apr 22, 2022 9:39:38 GMT -5
That is too bad about Barron.
I do not believe there is a 9 game limit for Harris because his contract will already be up in July 2023. And the issue about seasons which count to UFA eligibility involve a 40 game threshold so Harris cannot reach that number.
I have no idea how Hughes sees Clague. Camp will be interesting because a lot of kids (Barron, Guhle, Harris, Norlinder) who believe they are NHL-ready will be trying to make a statement.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 22, 2022 13:22:01 GMT -5
I agree that we need to play actual kids when possible, though I'd count Clague in there. Gotta know if he's worth bringing back and investing time into. I could be wrong, but I personally think Clague has already proven that he's not part of the future. In his case, it appears to be the hockey IQ that is missing. Hughes is throwing some darts this late in a bad season, which is reasonable. Harris is guaranteed a spot next year. To me he's already earned it. But with Barron, Guhle, Norlinder, Struble, Mailloux and possibly Xhekaj arriving, you have to really impress to be included in the mix. It doesn't seem Clague has done that. |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 22, 2022 13:28:49 GMT -5
Oh boy I said if we consider the picks a wash ....are they a wash? Carkner. 0 games with MTL , 0 GP with PHI , signed as a free agent with SJS .... Hohenberger , 0 games in the NHL Selig. 0 games in the NHL So yeah ...the picks and toss in were a wash. No one got any benefit from them at all Now, I don't know why Recchi's games with MTL get counted in the trade for Zubrus ....shouldn't the games of all the others be included too? Recchi was involved in both trades, that's why he gets cancelled out Rechii's rental counts b/c that's part of what the Habs got in the deal. so what was worse: the Rechii trade(s) or the Roy trade? Im not sure I get what you mean. Recchi was never a rental. He played over 300 games with Montreal. He played 39 (out of 49) with Montreal when we traded Desjardins , LeClair and Dionne for him. And when we traded him back to Philly he played the next season with them. So when was he a rental? The Roy trade was worse. We got scrubs back for Roy compared to what we ended up with in the Recchi deals In the Desjardins / LeClair deal we got a guy that scored at almost a point a game clip. The Zubrus deal was bad, seeing how Recchi was still scoring 60 points a season and we got a player that put up 74 points total in his entire time in Montreal. But we turned around and turned Zubrus into Perezhogin, Bulis and Zednik. We got nothing out of the Roy trade … we turned Kovalenko into Scott Thornton, we turned Ruchinsky into Donald Audette and Shaun Van Allen, and we turned Jocelyn Thibeault into Chris Dyment ..(you’re welcome BC) I guess there was something we also got in the Dyment deal Alan Nesradinne, Jeff Hackett and Eric Weinrich |
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Post by franko on Apr 22, 2022 15:03:32 GMT -5
Rechii's rental counts b/c that's part of what the Habs got in the deal. so what was worse: the Rechii trade(s) or the Roy trade? Im not sure I get what you mean. Recchi was never a rental. He played over 300 games with Montreal. He played 39 (out of 49) with Montreal when we traded Desjardins , LeClair and Dionne for him. And when we traded him back to Philly he played the next season with them. So when was he a rental? The Roy trade was worse. We got scrubs back for Roy compared to what we ended up with in the Recchi deals In the Desjardins / LeClair deal we got a guy that scored at almost a point a game clip. The Zubrus deal was bad, seeing how Recchi was still scoring 60 points a season and we got a player that put up 74 points total in his entire time in Montreal. But we turned around and turned Zubrus into Perezhogin, Bulis and Zednik. We got nothing out of the Roy trade … we turned Kovalenko into Scott Thornton, we turned Ruchinsky into Donald Audette and Shaun Van Allen, and we turned Jocelyn Thibeault into Chris Dyment ..(you’re welcome BC) I guess there was something we also got in the Dyment deal Alan Nesradinne, Jeff Hackett and Eric Weinrich ok don't use rental use games played, he counts in the trade because he played some for the habs before flipping him back. and yup, should include those other three in the tree, I was just talking direct re: the doctor |
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