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Post by Cranky on Jul 6, 2022 21:50:56 GMT -5
I'm not seeing this as great value for the Habs either, since 7th is just one kid, who might well flame out. We'd then have lost 2 young veterans, and there is talk that Murray might be part of the return... it means we have a goalie if Price gets hurt, at least. Neither do I. The kid flames out and we just wiped out two top 6. NotSoBright Asset Management 101. At this point, it's going to be years before there is a winning team so I can't be bothered to be upset. |
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 6, 2022 23:37:12 GMT -5
Just saw an interview of Wright and I now know he is the guy. Most guys say "I wanna win a Cup". Not our man Shane. He says "I wanna win Cups". Now we're talking!
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 7, 2022 5:29:03 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick?
Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already.
You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 7, 2022 6:21:25 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick? Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already. You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think. I think the Habs are messing with the Devils... no way they dont pick Wright... and if you saw his interview yesterday he wants to be a Hab. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 7, 2022 7:19:06 GMT -5
Dvorak, 26 and Allen for 7th and Murray? The Sens already have 3 goalies, they don't want or need Allen. IMO Murray has negative value, even more for a cheap organisation, since his contract is back-loaded so he has a lot of cash still be paid out. I'm thinking Anderson and 26 for Murray and 7. And then if we get the 7th, flip it ... but for Alex Debrincat |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 7, 2022 7:23:12 GMT -5
The Sens already have 3 goalies, they don't want or need Allen. IMO Murray has negative value, even more for a cheap organisation, since his contract is back-loaded so he has a lot of cash still be paid out. I'm thinking Anderson and 26 for Murray and 7. And then if we get the 7th, flip it ... but for Alex Debrincat That would be cool... I wanted DeBrincat at his draft suze/CC Wright/DeBrincat |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 7, 2022 7:57:13 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick? Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already. You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think. We may never know of course, but I would be stunned, and to be quite frank, extremely disappointed, if they haven’t already decided on who to take by now. And even more stunned if that decision wasn’t made days, if not weeks ago. What kind of clown organization would let it’s most important decision in years come down to what a kid who just turned 18 says or doesn’t say in a 15 minute interview mere hours before the draft? In his non-native language? Or worse, filtered through an interpreter? What could he possibly say right now that would change anybody’s mind? I want them to make this pick based on what they think the player can do on the ice. Not on what he thinks of Montreal in the summer. It would be EXTREMELY amateurish of them to be scrambling for a decision at this point. I have to think this is all just performative show. Whether it’s to sway New Jersey or something (unlikely, they’re all professionals over there too), or just because Hughes apparently hasn’t met a microphone he won’t stand in front of, there is no way they haven’t made a decision. No way. Or at least I hope that is the case anyways. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 7, 2022 8:06:56 GMT -5
I wonder if we will hear of any trades during the day or if everything will be kept quite until draft time. BadCo, I think they have been leaning one way but don't want to tip there hand in case someone makes an offer they can't refuse.
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 8:30:46 GMT -5
Anyone know where we can watch the draft online ? Twitch ? Youtube ?
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 8:32:48 GMT -5
I wonder if we will hear of any trades during the day or if everything will be kept quite until draft time. BadCo, I think they have been leaning one way but don't want to tip there hand in case someone makes an offer they can't refuse. I assume that the decision was pretty much made as well. Maybe they hadn't decided on how solid the decision was - if it's close, a solid offer (say an extra pick in the middle of the 1st round) might be enough to flip with #2 if it's close, but if it's a big difference, they know there's no way they trade down. |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 8:34:50 GMT -5
The Sens already have 3 goalies, they don't want or need Allen. IMO Murray has negative value, even more for a cheap organisation, since his contract is back-loaded so he has a lot of cash still be paid out. I'm thinking Anderson and 26 for Murray and 7. And then if we get the 7th, flip it ... but for Alex Debrincat I'd worry that Debrincat and Caufield are a tad too similar to want to have both on the same team, with no other worthwhile wingers. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 7, 2022 8:43:35 GMT -5
And then if we get the 7th, flip it ... but for Alex Debrincat I'd worry that Debrincat and Caufield are a tad too similar to want to have both on the same team, with no other worthwhile wingers. We aren't trying to win this year. We are building a team for 3 years from now. Debrincat is 24. If they have a chance to get him by surrendering the 7th pick and don't, I'd be hopping mad |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 8:47:43 GMT -5
I'd worry that Debrincat and Caufield are a tad too similar to want to have both on the same team, with no other worthwhile wingers. We aren't trying to win this year. We are building a team for 3 years from now. Debrincat is 24. If they have a chance to get him by surrendering the 7th pick and don't, I'd be hopping mad I would be 7, 33 and Guhle or something like that, though. |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 7, 2022 9:41:58 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick? Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already. You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think. We may never know of course, but I would be stunned, and to be quite frank, extremely disappointed, if they haven’t already decided on who to take by now. And even more stunned if that decision wasn’t made days, if not weeks ago. What kind of clown organization would let it’s most important decision in years come down to what a kid who just turned 18 says or doesn’t say in a 15 minute interview mere hours before the draft? In his non-native language? Or worse, filtered through an interpreter? What could he possibly say right now that would change anybody’s mind? I want them to make this pick based on what they think the player can do on the ice. Not on what he thinks of Montreal in the summer. It would be EXTREMELY amateurish of them to be scrambling for a decision at this point. I have to think this is all just performative show. Whether it’s to sway New Jersey or something (unlikely, they’re all professionals over there too), or just because Hughes apparently hasn’t met a microphone he won’t stand in front of, there is no way they haven’t made a decision. No way. Or at least I hope that is the case anyways. Me too. I remember back in 1993 when the Patriots had the #1 pick in the NFL draft and it was between QB's Drew Bledsoe and Rick Mirer. There was a lot of chatter and gamesmanship leading up to the draft and the Patriots were pretty coy the whole time about who they were going to pick. Of course they picked Bledsoe and the scoop after the draft is it wasn't nearly as close as it appeared. I agree maybe Hughes is talking too much and there's nothing wrong with doing some last minute checks even if you know who you are going to draft. Still it at least LOOKS like they have been on the fence about the pick. |
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 7, 2022 9:47:08 GMT -5
I'd be nervous about this being Hughes first draft as gm and doing something goofy. But I'm comfortable that Gorts is there and knows the drill. Can you imagine the angst we'd all be experiencing if MB was still at the helm?
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Post by franko on Jul 7, 2022 9:48:42 GMT -5
Anyone know where we can watch the draft online ? Twitch ? Youtube ? or tune into Sportsnet |
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Post by habsorbed on Jul 7, 2022 9:51:21 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick? Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already. You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think. We may never know of course, but I would be stunned, and to be quite frank, extremely disappointed, if they haven’t already decided on who to take by now. And even more stunned if that decision wasn’t made days, if not weeks ago. What kind of clown organization would let it’s most important decision in years come down to what a kid who just turned 18 says or doesn’t say in a 15 minute interview mere hours before the draft? In his non-native language? Or worse, filtered through an interpreter? What could he possibly say right now that would change anybody’s mind? I want them to make this pick based on what they think the player can do on the ice. Not on what he thinks of Montreal in the summer. It would be EXTREMELY amateurish of them to be scrambling for a decision at this point. I have to think this is all just performative show. Whether it’s to sway New Jersey or something (unlikely, they’re all professionals over there too), or just because Hughes apparently hasn’t met a microphone he won’t stand in front of, there is no way they haven’t made a decision. No way. Or at least I hope that is the case anyways. Agree! I hope they're not interviewing the kid just to add to the fans' suspense. That would be discourteous to the kid. However, if they're doing it as a ploy to intrigue other teams who may be trading partners or because they're thinking of getting the 2nd overall as well, then game on. And the kid will learn this is all a business. |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 10:26:18 GMT -5
Anyone know where we can watch the draft online ? Twitch ? Youtube ? or tune into Sportsnet I'm out of town, I need an online only solution... |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 10:28:43 GMT -5
We may never know of course, but I would be stunned, and to be quite frank, extremely disappointed, if they haven’t already decided on who to take by now. And even more stunned if that decision wasn’t made days, if not weeks ago. What kind of clown organization would let it’s most important decision in years come down to what a kid who just turned 18 says or doesn’t say in a 15 minute interview mere hours before the draft? In his non-native language? Or worse, filtered through an interpreter? What could he possibly say right now that would change anybody’s mind? I want them to make this pick based on what they think the player can do on the ice. Not on what he thinks of Montreal in the summer. It would be EXTREMELY amateurish of them to be scrambling for a decision at this point. I have to think this is all just performative show. Whether it’s to sway New Jersey or something (unlikely, they’re all professionals over there too), or just because Hughes apparently hasn’t met a microphone he won’t stand in front of, there is no way they haven’t made a decision. No way. Or at least I hope that is the case anyways. Agree! I hope they're not interviewing the kid just to add to the fans' suspense. That would be discourteous to the kid. However, if they're doing it as a ploy to intrigue other teams who may be trading partners or because they're thinking of getting the 2nd overall as well, then game on. And the kid will learn this is all a business. Keep in mind, this is the last chance to get a read on him, as well. I've noticed often after trades, teams mention how they liked a guy in his draft year - ie, the last time they could freely talk to him. I wouldn't be surprised the Habs had an eye on Suzuki in his draft year, for example, and that influenced their choice to trade for him. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 7, 2022 12:48:55 GMT -5
Between hosting a bunch of these top kids, and having them participate in media events and that kids camp at the practice facility yesterday, the Habs have been able to “leave a mark” on these guys knowing full well they likely only draft one of the top kids. These guys all talk and compare notes so this is something that could very well set the Habs up in a positive light for some move(s) years down the road.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 7, 2022 12:53:16 GMT -5
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Post by Habit on Jul 7, 2022 14:04:15 GMT -5
Anyone know where we can watch the draft online ? Twitch ? Youtube ? or tune into Sportsnet FUBO does not have a free trial, although it says it in the description. I just got the Sportsnet subscription for the month for $20. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 7, 2022 14:07:42 GMT -5
I'd worry that Debrincat and Caufield are a tad too similar to want to have both on the same team, with no other worthwhile wingers. We aren't trying to win this year. We are building a team for 3 years from now. Debrincat is 24. If they have a chance to get him by surrendering the 7th pick and don't, I'd be hopping mad Yeah. A very hard fact is that Rome doesn't get built in a day, even with Red Bull. Having the patience and persistence to be bad for another year, perhaps even 2 more, to accumulate those potentially excellent players, is what will make or bend the franchise. Was talking to a friend of mine whose team needs a stud dman to complete what's necessary to be a real contender and he said it's so hard to get one. We agreed, you have to draft one. Full stop. We haven't got one, (as far as I can tell). If Hughes drafts Wright, we should have lots of centre strength for the next 7 years at least. We have a sniper and might have another lesser one in Ylonen. We can find another Kuemper if need be. We need a stud Dman at some point. |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 14:22:57 GMT -5
FUBO does not have a free trial, although it says it in the description. I just got the Sportsnet subscription for the month for $20. I guess I'll record it, and follow online as I can, and watch if there were any interesting discussions, later on (like I remember Timmins arguing not to trade down the Romanov pick, etc.) |
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Post by drkcloud on Jul 7, 2022 14:53:13 GMT -5
Is it weird that the consensus on the board is unanimous but the Habs are having another meeting with Slavkofsky? Do they really not know who they are picking? Are they still not super confident about their pick? Maybe they are just playing it safe but Hughes said if it was a slam dunk decision he would have announced it already. You certainly want to see a high degree of conviction. Maybe it’s much closer than we think. I think the Habs are messing with the Devils... no way they dont pick Wright... and if you saw his interview yesterday he wants to be a Hab. I saw in some reports that it was Geoff Molson meeting with him.. does that indicate Slavkovsky? The suspense is getting crazy |
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Post by Andrew on Jul 7, 2022 15:01:48 GMT -5
I think the Habs are messing with the Devils... no way they dont pick Wright... and if you saw his interview yesterday he wants to be a Hab. I saw in some reports that it was Geoff Molson meeting with him.. does that indicate Slavkovsky? The suspense is getting crazy Molson had better not be meddling in this. Leave the hockey decisions to the hockey guys that were brought in for the job. Unless there's advice needed on selling beer he needs to keep out of it. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 7, 2022 15:05:35 GMT -5
I definitely don't like the vibes.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 7, 2022 15:06:22 GMT -5
BTW Conn Smythe winners?
19 centre
17 goalies
12 dmen
9 wingers, 2 of which were left wingers.
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Post by Scotty D on Jul 7, 2022 15:49:19 GMT -5
We aren't trying to win this year. We are building a team for 3 years from now. Debrincat is 24. If they have a chance to get him by surrendering the 7th pick and don't, I'd be hopping mad Yeah. A very hard fact is that Rome doesn't get built in a day, even with Red Bull. Having the patience and persistence to be bad for another year, perhaps even 2 more, to accumulate those potentially excellent players, is what will make or bend the franchise. Was talking to a friend of mine whose team needs a stud dman to complete what's necessary to be a real contender and he said it's so hard to get one. We agreed, you have to draft one. Full stop. We haven't got one, (as far as I can tell). If Hughes drafts Wright, we should have lots of centre strength for the next 7 years at least. We have a sniper and might have another lesser one in Ylonen. We can find another Kuemper if need be. We need a stud Dman at some point. Debrincat is now a senator for the 7th and 39th pick. debrincat traded to the senators |
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Post by PTH on Jul 7, 2022 15:56:46 GMT -5
Yeah. A very hard fact is that Rome doesn't get built in a day, even with Red Bull. Having the patience and persistence to be bad for another year, perhaps even 2 more, to accumulate those potentially excellent players, is what will make or bend the franchise. Was talking to a friend of mine whose team needs a stud dman to complete what's necessary to be a real contender and he said it's so hard to get one. We agreed, you have to draft one. Full stop. We haven't got one, (as far as I can tell). If Hughes drafts Wright, we should have lots of centre strength for the next 7 years at least. We have a sniper and might have another lesser one in Ylonen. We can find another Kuemper if need be. We need a stud Dman at some point. Debrincat is now a senator for the 7th and 39th pick. debrincat traded to the senatorsAlready being discussed in the out of town thread. |
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