Unfinished trade to be announced

[Cranky]

I hope it's....

p

L

D

www.tvasports.ca/2022/07/12/ch-une-transaction-annoncee-sous-peu

[jkr]

With Suzuki and Dach I doubt they go looking for another centre right now.

[seventeen]

I hope it’s someone’s unprotected first for next year.

[jkr]

Can't figure out why they are waiting to announce the deal.

[PTH]

Jul 12, 2022 19:50:14 GMT -5 jkr said:

Can't figure out why they are waiting to announce the deal.

Petry has a 3M signing bonus tomorrow.

Carolina or some other small market might be willing to give more hockey assets if the real $ are down.

[Willie Dog]

Jul 12, 2022 20:12:34 GMT -5 PTH said:

Jul 12, 2022 19:50:14 GMT -5 jkr said:

Can't figure out why they are waiting to announce the deal.

Petry has a 3M signing bonus tomorrow.

Carolina or some other small market might be willing to give more hockey assets if the real $ are down.

Saw a post the Canes were looking for a RHD... Burns likely going to Dallas, maybe Petry joins KK

[Tankdriver]

Also I think PLD can sign an extension tomorrow

[NWTHabsFan]

Jul 12, 2022 21:04:42 GMT -5 Tankdriver said:

Also I think PLD can sign an extension tomorrow

Oops. He is an RFA who can be cost controlled for two more RFA seasons before turning UFA. I fixed that.

I have no idea why Chevy would trade a big asset with two cost controlled years under team control. Conversely, that also jacks the asking price up for Hughes. Is this really the right time in the “rebuild” for that?

If nothing else, HuGo are not boring in both reality and media speculation. This is a massive change from the old regime. 😊

[seventeen]

My guess is that the deal's with Carolina and involves Petry. When I wondering why the delay in announcing, the only thing that made sense was money. If there's a signing bonus, Carolina's not going to pay it, so the delay makes sense. Can't recall who was the front runner for Klingberg, but that meant Burns was going to Dallas and Carolina was badly in need of someone to replace deAngelo. Petry's salary is around what DeAngelo was asking and it's possible Montreal is retaining something because Dundon is, well, cheap. Someone on the Carolina Twitter speculated Poehling and Petry for Necas and Ryan Suzuki. I'm not sure how good a deal that would be. Necas has his moments but also hasn't produced as expected. But he is a contract headache for Dundon, so that's a thing. I'm not sure Nick's brother is ever going to make the NHL, but who knows. Besides, it's all speculation anyways. Fun, though.

[Andrew]

I feel like Dadonov may never lace up for the Habs. Too many forwards and we’re too tight agains the cap. Could be an attractive option for Chicago to fill out their roster and flip at the deadline.

[PTH]

Jul 12, 2022 23:55:44 GMT -5 Andrew said:

I feel like Dadonov may never lace up for the Habs. Too many forwards and we’re too tight agains the cap. Could be an attractive option for Chicago to fill out their roster and flip at the deadline.

IMO not as likely as Petry, but Chicago is clearly doing things.... differently, so it's hard to predict what they're going to do. Taking on Dadonov wouldn't be too far off the reservation.

[Willie Dog]

Jul 13, 2022 0:35:11 GMT -5 PTH said:

Jul 12, 2022 23:55:44 GMT -5 Andrew said:

I feel like Dadonov may never lace up for the Habs. Too many forwards and we’re too tight agains the cap. Could be an attractive option for Chicago to fill out their roster and flip at the deadline.

IMO not as likely as Petry, but Chicago is clearly doing things.... differently, so it's hard to predict what they're going to do. Taking on Dadonov wouldn't be too far off the reservation.

What about Drouin to the Hawks, change of scenery...

[folatre]

Apparently, Carolina is more interested in Burns. However, I cannot fathom how that would work for them unless San Jose is retaining serious money. And most clubs are loathe to do so when there is still significant term involved (3 years in this case).

[Tankdriver]

I also think you can't retain just one year. So they would have to retain the same amount over the next 3 if they do.

[folatre]

Burns traded (along with Pederson) to Carolina for Lorentz, Makiniemi (23 year old goalie who had a good season in the AHL), and conditional third rounder. San Jose is retaining one-third so Burns cap hit is $5.33 million for the Canes.

Carolina could have just kept DeAngelo for the same money and he is certainly not 37 years old like Burns.

Well, Hughes' probably could have moved Petry already if he was willing to retain. But I think he is not. And retaining for three years is certainly unappealing in particular when Bergevin saddled the organization with so many bad contracts.

[folatre]

Colin White (1 year/$1.2 million) to Florida. I am certainly not upset. I think he is rather mediocre by NHL standards and I could not understand how he would actually fit in Montreal.

[jkr]

Good points about Burns & Carolina. Why on earth take on a 37 year old for 3 years.

Anyways, what's up with this mystery deal?

[seventeen]

Jul 12, 2022 23:10:05 GMT -5 seventeen said:

My guess is that the deal's with Carolina and involves Petry. When I wondering why the delay in announcing, the only thing that made sense was money. If there's a signing bonus, Carolina's not going to pay it, so the delay makes sense. Can't recall who was the front runner for Klingberg, but that meant Burns was going to Dallas and Carolina was badly in need of someone to replace deAngelo. Petry's salary is around what DeAngelo was asking and it's possible Montreal is retaining something because Dundon is, well, cheap. Someone on the Carolina Twitter speculated Poehling and Petry for Necas and Ryan Suzuki. I'm not sure how good a deal that would be. Necas has his moments but also hasn't produced as expected. But he is a contract headache for Dundon, so that's a thing. I'm not sure Nick's brother is ever going to make the NHL, but who knows. Besides, it's all speculation anyways. Fun, though.

Ok, that crystal ball is shot. I don't even know where to start to repair it.

[Andrew]

"Unfinished trade to be announced" reminds me of the type of false rumor that would show up in the days of Eklund, and have HFBoards whipped up into a frenzy (E5).

[seventeen]

Jul 13, 2022 15:35:51 GMT -5 Andrew said:

"Unfinished trade to be announced" reminds me of the type of false rumor that would show up in the days of Eklund, and have HFBoards whipped up into a frenzy (E5).

Thing is, R. Lavoie was the 'leak' and he's fairly connected. He was first to say Habs were taking Slafkovsky and I think that was 2 days before the draft.

[Cranky]

Don't shoot the messanger!

I thought it was odd but plausable given the source.

[PTH]

Jul 13, 2022 15:35:51 GMT -5 Andrew said:

"Unfinished trade to be announced" reminds me of the type of false rumor that would show up in the days of Eklund, and have HFBoards whipped up into a frenzy (E5).

I suspect there was some truth and Lavoie just read too much into it.

There might, for example, have been a deal on the table if a certain combination of events occured (ie, Carolina GM says if I can't trade for Burns, I'll take Petry for a 2nd rounder), not an official, clear, defined deal filed away.

[PTH]

Jul 13, 2022 13:03:25 GMT -5 jkr said:

Good points about Burns & Carolina. Why on earth take on a 37 year old for 3 years.

Anyways, what's up with this mystery deal?

I'm not getting it either. I mean, I'd take Petry before Burns at this point, and their contracts are comparable.

And while Hughes doesn't want to give away Petry, I don't think he's looking for a massive return, either.

[NWTHabsFan]

Some nothing burger news.

[Willie Dog]

Jul 13, 2022 16:11:52 GMT -5 PTH said:

Jul 13, 2022 13:03:25 GMT -5 jkr said:

Good points about Burns & Carolina. Why on earth take on a 37 year old for 3 years.

Anyways, what's up with this mystery deal?

I'm not getting it either. I mean, I'd take Petry before Burns at this point, and their contracts are comparable.

And while Hughes doesn't want to give away Petry, I don't think he's looking for a massive return, either.

The Canes also want marketing... Burns is marketable with the toothless smile... Petry's wife doesnt do commercials... lol... Je killez moi 😋

[habsorbed]

So Hugo did exactly as one would expect on a wild day when teams with aspirations for success this season are crazy busy: nothing. This rumour about an unfinished trade got us excited. But ultimately we are in the early stages of the rebuild and as I've said, this season will be difficult, and intentionally so.

[seventeen]

Jul 14, 2022 0:13:45 GMT -5 habsorbed said:

So Hugo did exactly as one would expect on a wild day when teams with aspirations for success this season are crazy busy: nothing. This rumour about an unfinished trade got us excited. But ultimately we are in the early stages of the rebuild and as I've said, this season will be difficult, and intentionally so.

Just keep thinking...Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli. Repeat after me. (hopefully not Michkov as he's 4 years away, but wow, what an addition that would be in 4 years).

This coming year will be the difference between being a real contending team for some time, or just another innocent bystander. It's that important, I feel.