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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2023 1:52:09 GMT -5
Dubois dominating the first half of game 1 in Vegas. Yeah, he's looking really good. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2023 1:52:42 GMT -5
Bunting's act will wear out like Claude Lemieux did in Montreal. Keefe will probably want him gone. I suspect a lot of Leaf fans want Keefe gone. |
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 19, 2023 6:47:04 GMT -5
Bunting's act will wear out like Claude Lemieux did in Montreal. Keefe will probably want him gone. I suspect a lot of Leaf fans want Keefe gone. I was thinking last night that, if the goaltending is fairly equal (which it wasn't), this series will come down to coaching--especially in-game adjustments. In that respect, I'd give the nod to Cooper. Keefe is Dubas's guy. If Toronto exits in subpar form, they might both be gone. Great regular seasons are one thing... RE: Bunting. He'll likely get one game--with many Leafs' fans requesting he STAY in the press box.  Down 4-2 at the time, the Leafs still had a shot. Wonder how long Hedman and Cernak will be out. The rest of the Bolts' D really stepped it up. ============================= With no fan-skin in the playoffs, I enjoy watching the good and the bad without experiencing emotional/blood pressure issues. Like Dis walking into a packed pub, seeing all the long faces, and still enjoying his beer--perhaps a bit more than usual!  |
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Post by jkr on Apr 19, 2023 7:09:47 GMT -5
After seeing 2 TB D men out I had to wonder again why Brisebois put all his trade chips towards a bottom 6 forward. Lack of depth on defense hurts a lot more and names like Klingberg, Orlov and Chyvhrun were going for decent prices.
I know their cap is tight, perhaps that was the reason.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 19, 2023 7:25:10 GMT -5
Home-ice advantage flipped on all 4 fronts last night.
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Post by Cranky on Apr 19, 2023 7:25:41 GMT -5
Since I'm a nice guy, I'm buying up all the inflatable mattresses and putting them under tall buildings in Toronto...
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Post by PTH on Apr 19, 2023 13:58:35 GMT -5
After seeing 2 TB D men out I had to wonder again why Brisebois put all his trade chips towards a bottom 6 forward. Lack of depth on defense hurts a lot more and names like Klingberg, Orlov and Chyvhrun were going for decent prices. I know their cap is tight, perhaps that was the reason. I remember chatter that Edmundson might have gone to Tampa... And frankly, Edmonton also could use him instead of Desharnais. I know he was hurt and only got one game in, but still... |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2023 14:34:36 GMT -5
RE: Bunting. He'll likely get one game--with many Leafs' fans requesting he STAY in the press box. Down 4-2 at the time, the Leafs still had a shot. Wonder how long Hedman and Cernak will be out. The rest of the Bolts' D really stepped it up. Bunting may end up being a hero, despite or perhaps because of the nefarious antics. He gets one game and the Leafs don't miss a lot. If Cernak is out for the series, that's a sizeable blow to the Lightning and one game where the other team's goaltender sucked won't translate into a series win. TO needs Woll to play average. Murray is not an option. Man, some GM's..... They know a serious problem is their goaltending and they never seem to resolve it. TO, Edmonton, Philly (for a long time) and others I won't bother considering at this time) have this porous weakness and always seem to throw darts at a board hoping this or that minor leaguer or perennial backup will work out FOR THEM. It's also amazing how little value goaltenders return in assets despite the importance to a team. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2023 14:42:56 GMT -5
Since I'm a nice guy, I'm buying up all the inflatable mattresses and putting them under tall buildings in Toronto... That is kind of you but maybe not Bay Street. |
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Post by Scotty D on Apr 19, 2023 16:03:06 GMT -5
Since I'm a nice guy, I'm buying up all the inflatable mattresses and putting them under tall buildings in Toronto... just reducing splatter for pedestrians ? |
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Post by Skilly on Apr 19, 2023 18:24:43 GMT -5
RE: Bunting. He'll likely get one game--with many Leafs' fans requesting he STAY in the press box. Down 4-2 at the time, the Leafs still had a shot. Wonder how long Hedman and Cernak will be out. The rest of the Bolts' D really stepped it up. Bunting may end up being a hero, despite or perhaps because of the nefarious antics. He gets one game and the Leafs don't miss a lot. If Cernak is out for the series, that's a sizeable blow to the Lightning and one game where the other team's goaltender sucked won't translate into a series win. TO needs Woll to play average. Murray is not an option. Man, some GM's..... They know a serious problem is their goaltending and they never seem to resolve it. TO, Edmonton, Philly (for a long time) and others I won't bother considering at this time) have this porous weakness and always seem to throw darts at a board hoping this or that minor leaguer or perennial backup will work out FOR THEM. It's also amazing how little value goaltenders return in assets despite the importance to a team. You can add MTL to that list. We've known about this Price conundrum for 4 years, and have gone 2 without Price even playing .... and no solution in sight. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 19, 2023 18:28:10 GMT -5
RE: Bunting. He'll likely get one game--with many Leafs' fans requesting he STAY in the press box. Down 4-2 at the time, the Leafs still had a shot. Wonder how long Hedman and Cernak will be out. The rest of the Bolts' D really stepped it up. Bunting may end up being a hero, despite or perhaps because of the nefarious antics. He gets one game and the Leafs don't miss a lot. If Cernak is out for the series, that's a sizeable blow to the Lightning and one game where the other team's goaltender sucked won't translate into a series win. TO needs Woll to play average. Murray is not an option. Man, some GM's..... They know a serious problem is their goaltending and they never seem to resolve it. TO, Edmonton, Philly (for a long time) and others I won't bother considering at this time) have this porous weakness and always seem to throw darts at a board hoping this or that minor leaguer or perennial backup will work out FOR THEM. It's also amazing how little value goaltenders return in assets despite the importance to a team. Bunting gets 3 games. I don't know what to expect. Hedman left early in the 1st & despite being down to 5 D, the period ended 3-0 TB. Cernak left at the 15 minute mark of the 2nd whenit was 4-2. Toronto didnt take advantage at all. Since that point they have just been whining to the media about referees. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 19, 2023 18:38:30 GMT -5
Never was impressed by Bunting. I doubt Leaf roster even notices he’s missing.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 19, 2023 21:58:23 GMT -5
Never was impressed by Bunting. I doubt Leaf roster even notices he’s missing. They might even play with more of a purpose without an impulsive saboteur in the lineup. |
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Post by Andrew on Apr 20, 2023 0:01:30 GMT -5
The worst part of that Bunting hit was him yapping at the ref, like he was victim of some gross injustice of officiating, after almost KO'ing a player with a blow to the head.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Apr 20, 2023 9:53:37 GMT -5
Bruins lose 6-3. How cool would THAT be to see Boston get bounced in the 1st round. Florida has talent, seems like they underachieved this year. A solid F group with Tkachuk, Barkov, Verhaeghe (40 goals), Reinhart, Bennett and a D led by Ekblad and Brandon Montour (73 points). I watched last night and they were good. If the Panthers get good goaltending and play up to their talent, they can hang around in this series.
I almost feel bad for the Leafs. Like "oh no, not again!" They're like the Red Sox for all those years before 2004.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 20, 2023 10:56:43 GMT -5
Bruins lose 6-3. How cool would THAT be to see Boston get bounced in the 1st round. Florida has talent, seems like they underachieved this year. A solid F group with Tkachuk, Barkov, Verhaeghe (40 goals), Reinhart, Bennett and a D led by Ekblad and Brandon Montour (73 points). I watched last night and they were good. If the Panthers get good goaltending and play up to their talent, they can hang around in this series. I almost feel bad for the Leafs. Like "oh no, not again!" They're like the Red Sox for all those years before 2004. Re the Leafs. It was one game. They played like they were on eggshells and that is likely to change. The Lightning, from what I read afterward, were pumped because of comments regarding the previous game where the Leafs deservedly beat them. There is definitely a mental aspect to this for the Leafs who have been there a while. I don't think, though, that the adrenaline and the drive the Lightning had in that first game, can continue. You can do that for a game, and you can make up for injured players (Cernak) for a game. Hard to do in a longer series. If Hedman and Cernak can't play or aren't at their best, those are rather large factors. Brisebois rolled the dice on his defence, not adding anything. He might come up snake eyes. The biggest factor of course, is Leaf goaltending. If it's good, Leafs will win. If not, they lose. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 20, 2023 11:10:42 GMT -5
Bruins lose 6-3. How cool would THAT be to see Boston get bounced in the 1st round. Florida has talent, seems like they underachieved this year. A solid F group with Tkachuk, Barkov, Verhaeghe (40 goals), Reinhart, Bennett and a D led by Ekblad and Brandon Montour (73 points). I watched last night and they were good. If the Panthers get good goaltending and play up to their talent, they can hang around in this series. I almost feel bad for the Leafs. Like "oh no, not again!" They're like the Red Sox for all those years before 2004. Re the Leafs. It was one game. They played like they were on eggshells and that is likely to change. The Lightning, from what I read afterward, were pumped because of comments regarding the previous game where the Leafs deservedly beat them. There is definitely a mental aspect to this for the Leafs who have been there a while. I don't think, though, that the adrenaline and the drive the Lightning had in that first game, can continue. You can do that for a game, and you can make up for injured players (Cernak) for a game. Hard to do in a longer series. If Hedman and Cernak can't play or aren't at their best, those are rather large factors. Brisebois rolled the dice on his defence, not adding anything. He might come up snake eyes. The biggest factor of course, is Leaf goaltending. If it's good, Leafs will win. If not, they lose. Even if the Leafs goalie plays well.. that D is scary... reily is afraid of his shadow, Holl is a pylon and Giodano is the leafs version of David Savard... all the TB has to do is dump and come hard in the offensive zone and D will fold |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 20, 2023 13:10:56 GMT -5
Re the Leafs. It was one game. They played like they were on eggshells and that is likely to change. The Lightning, from what I read afterward, were pumped because of comments regarding the previous game where the Leafs deservedly beat them. There is definitely a mental aspect to this for the Leafs who have been there a while. I don't think, though, that the adrenaline and the drive the Lightning had in that first game, can continue. You can do that for a game, and you can make up for injured players (Cernak) for a game. Hard to do in a longer series. If Hedman and Cernak can't play or aren't at their best, those are rather large factors. Brisebois rolled the dice on his defence, not adding anything. He might come up snake eyes. The biggest factor of course, is Leaf goaltending. If it's good, Leafs will win. If not, they lose. Even if the Leafs goalie plays well.. that D is scary... reily is afraid of his shadow, Holl is a pylon and Giodano is the leafs version of David Savard... all the TB has to do is dump and come hard in the offensive zone and D will fold AS the very old saying goes, "We shall see". Then, there's always injuries. If I'm TO, I target Perry. He's the guy who seems to be driving the team. Desperate to win another Cup. Ain't gonna happen Corey. You may beat TO but there are better teams ahead. |
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Post by folatre on Apr 20, 2023 18:42:17 GMT -5
The problem with targeting Perry is this what he wants. McCabe just took a dumb penalty doing just that. A guy his size, moving in slow-mo is hard to injure anyway, so I think the best approach is simply make him work hard for his space (precisely what Holl did not do in game 1).
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Post by seventeen on Apr 20, 2023 19:00:18 GMT -5
Thats what meant, not try to injure him. Just gas him out. Have different players making him work REALLY hard so his legs become wet spaghetti.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 20, 2023 19:05:48 GMT -5
Leafs leading 3 zip after the 1st... the CBC/Rogers panel must be orgasmic
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Post by jkr on Apr 20, 2023 20:12:05 GMT -5
Leafs leading 3 zip after the 1st... the CBC/Rogers panel must be orgasmic Things could not have gone better for them. No Hedman or Cernak. A PP at the 40 second mark of the first with a goal a few seconds later. I guess whining about the refs paid off. Now 6-1 after 2. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 20, 2023 23:37:29 GMT -5
Avs bounce back vs Seattle. Lehky in on winning goal as usual. What a playoff guy he is.
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Post by folatre on Apr 21, 2023 9:53:16 GMT -5
Seattle is an example of a good, fast, hard-working team with basically no elite players (maybe Beniers becomes one but he is not now). That kind of team is not going to win the Cup, but it illustrates those ingredients are often enough to comprise a playoff competitive product.
The Tampa-Toronto series always promised to have a nasty edge. But it increasingly looks like the team able to bring physicality without making their goalie face an endless stream of opponent power plays will win it. Even outstanding goalies cannot be expected to close the door on the multitude of high quality scoring chances league top five power plays regularly produce.
Poor New Jersey, they look seriously out of their depth. No playoff experience, an unreliable goalie, and not a lot of team toughness are standing out.
Vegas got the bounces last night. Yes, credit to them, they played with a lot more desperation than game one. I am sure that Cassidy would say it does not bother him that the #8 seed looks every bit as talented as his #1 seed Golden Knights. Well, we shall see how they do up there in Winnipeg.
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Post by halihab on Apr 21, 2023 10:39:05 GMT -5
Avs bounce back vs Seattle. Lehky in on winning goal as usual. What a playoff guy he is. Lehky is also playing very physical. He has dished out some nasty hits so far. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 21, 2023 13:31:20 GMT -5
I saw one guy crush a Kraken late in the game and only caught the 2nd number on his uniforn (2). It was indeed, Lehky. He was and still is a favourite of mine, even when he wasn't scoring.
That was so strange. He scored throughout his SEL season (especially in the playoffs, duh), and yet comes to North America and hits a wall? I think it had more to do with coaching and what they wanted him to do. Once you get that defensive mindset, the offensive side can deteriorate.
Course, Any team run by Bergevin is going to have trouble scoring.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 21, 2023 14:40:02 GMT -5
Lehky also scored the Avs' first goal last night. Nice tip of a Makar point shot.
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Post by Cranky on Apr 21, 2023 16:45:05 GMT -5
How is Dubois doing? Looks like he only had one shot in the second game. Of course I want the Jets out ASAP so they fantasize about their rebuild.
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Post by folatre on Apr 21, 2023 18:38:41 GMT -5
Hockey is debatable, yet honestly I do not think winning a round would change much for most of Jets’ big guns who will be UFAs after next season. If guys like Dubois, Hellebuyck, and Scheifele will not re-sign this summer, then Cheveldayoff has no choice but to trade them.
I mean, really, what else can he do? Promise ownership that Winnipeg will win the Cup next season and thus should keep them as 'own rentals'?
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Down 4-2 at the time, the Leafs still had a shot. 
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