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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:14:47 GMT -5
Allen has been lousy tonight. 3 goals on 14 shots. C'mon man
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:15:17 GMT -5
Nifty play by Suzuki and Dach ....ties it at 3-3
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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:25:52 GMT -5
Guentzel hammered to the ice by Savard. Gets up and skated off.
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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:31:03 GMT -5
Guentzel better get more than 2. He tackles Gallagher and then throws punches.
He gets hammered by Savard and then goes after one of the smaller guys on the team. What a chicken sh!.t
Bull crap refereeing. Why did Guentzel get away with pounding Gallagher and then Savard gets called on a borderline call.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:31:53 GMT -5
Hughes got to find Monahan some wingers
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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:35:15 GMT -5
Hughes got to find Monahan some wingers For sure. He has one goal since opening night. |
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Post by drkcloud on Nov 12, 2022 21:37:35 GMT -5
Allen hasn't made a save for us all night. I can't believe Monty is having a better season
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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:37:52 GMT -5
FFS Allen, make a save.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:39:30 GMT -5
Sean Monahan ...ties it at 4
Finally Drouin gets one through from the point on the PP.
Dach with another point. He is proving to be some pick up!
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:41:43 GMT -5
Be nice if Dadonov could get a point this year .... just one
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Post by jkr on Nov 12, 2022 21:44:17 GMT -5
Wasn't Anderson high sticked there?
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:49:40 GMT -5
Going to OT ... PIT is more dangerous 3 on 3 than us. Got to be smart
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Post by Skilly on Nov 12, 2022 21:52:22 GMT -5
Dach to Hoffman wins it in OT
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Post by drkcloud on Nov 12, 2022 21:53:50 GMT -5
I haven't been convinced on Dach to this point but wow that kid can fly for a big man
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 12, 2022 22:05:07 GMT -5
Hughes got to find Monahan some wingers A bit of a wasted season so far, as he could be something with real linemates. I am still impressed with his play. |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 12, 2022 23:39:01 GMT -5
That was a very strong game. No complaints about anything.
Guhle...showing his offense. Defacto our top D.
X...two mistakes but overall, getting better and better.
Dach...wow, he's the real deal as a top pick.
CC...he's the most dangerous scorer since the Flower?
Suzuki...we finally got to go back jn our history to find such a talent at center.
It's starting to look like the playoffs are a real possibility.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 13, 2022 1:24:14 GMT -5
I missed the game but saw the highlights... in Kirby Dach we are watching a young man grow before our eyes and are seeing the potential he has... if he puts on another 10 pounds of muscle at 6'4" and 225lb the kid will be a beast...
I still want them to be in the bottom 10 but if they keep playing like this they won't but damn they are fun to watch...
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 13, 2022 1:32:38 GMT -5
The Kids Are more than Alright. The Pen vets were schooled over and over again by our kids. Complete domination by the kids.
Suze is a marvel! Cole will win the Richard Trophy. The only question is how soon.
Only beef I have is the 3 on 3 goal. That is on Marty. I think he understood the strategy was to kill the 3 on 3 and get to the PP - that's why he had Harris and Guhle out there. But Harris has to be told that he is to hang back on the face off in the Pens zone. He can't be caught up in the scrum.
But these kids sure don't get demoralized.
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Post by PTH on Nov 13, 2022 2:56:47 GMT -5
Quite the game.
Harris is worrying me, he can't seem to find the right role to slot into. Wifi is just outgrowing any limitations we imagine he has.
I found the game-plan interesting, with a lot of sling-shot entries at 5 on 5.
Dadonov seemed to have a pulse, Hoffman is on a role, and even Drouin finds a way to be useful, on the PP.
Dach is starting to look like a top-3 overall pick, and I've liked how recently we've seen him beat goalies outright as well as act his size. There is a lot of potential in that guy. I loved Romanov, but no regrets there.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 13, 2022 9:45:59 GMT -5
Hughes got to find Monahan some wingers A bit of a wasted season so far, as he could be something with real linemates. I am still impressed with his play. The first line you can’t touch I’d give Monahan Slafkovsky and Anderson Funny how things change. The thought was we traded for Dach to pick the winger at #1 make sense. The trading for Monahan is probably the pick that affected the lines the most. Monahan usually finds himself with the puck, but no one to pass to. |
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Post by folatre on Nov 13, 2022 10:49:58 GMT -5
I agree, Skilly. I would put Slafkovsky with Monahan too. Unfortunately, the kid will be with two offensive ghosts (Evans and Armia).
I am elated (and surprised) by how productive Dach has been on the first line. I was really hoping Dach would be a successful big two-way centre for the Habs, which would make Dvorak expendable as soon as this summer. Oh well, perhaps that was not meant to be and the coaches have found the proper role for Dach. And maybe Hughes feels the second line centre will arrive via free agency at the acceleration point in the roster development.
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Post by Skilly on Nov 13, 2022 10:57:42 GMT -5
How good has Kirby Dach been?
Well he has played 15 games as a Hab, and 20% of his CAREER point totals have been as a Hab
Let that sink in
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Post by habsask on Nov 13, 2022 12:11:28 GMT -5
I thought at the time, and said so here, that what Hughes did in the 1st round was no more risky than drafting the 'what's his name' center. I also said that Dach should play on the first two lines albeit as a center.
As for the make-up of the lines I wouldn't make any assumptions as to their longer term configuration based on what we've seen so far, i.e. Dach may end up playing center once Hughes divests the Habs of a forward or two. This applies to Slafkovsky as well- Hughes / St L don't want to put too much pressure on the kid right now; we need to remember he only turned 18 this March. As St L said they're letting Slaf figure out what kind of player he wants to or can be and he is on the PP.
The big surprise for me has been the play of Xhekaj which has already pretty well balanced the trade of Romanov with more growth yet to come.
Hughes first round moves remind me of Sam Pollock which no other GM since Sam has done.
I also agree that Caufield is the best pure natural goal scorer since Lafleur. He doesn't play tough along the boards but so what - he just finds open ice and puts the puck in the net.
Yes, Fire Wagon Hockey is back. It's wonderful.
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 13, 2022 13:10:44 GMT -5
I agree, Skilly. I would put Slafkovsky with Monahan too. Unfortunately, the kid will be with two offensive ghosts (Evans and Armia). I am elated (and surprised) by how productive Dach has been on the first line. I was really hoping Dach would be a successful big two-way centre for the Habs, which would make Dvorak expendable as soon as this summer. Oh well, perhaps that was not meant to be and the coaches have found the proper role for Dach. And maybe Hughes feels the second line centre will arrive via free agency at the acceleration point in the roster development. Once HuGo relieves us of Drouin, Dads, and Hoffman, we will have more than enough cap space for Dubois who already has 7 goals himself. And he's got some size too. |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 13, 2022 13:21:03 GMT -5
X still makes mistakes and risky plays, particularly when he's in our zone - hopefully coaches can sort that out. But there is no doubt the tools this guy has are insane given how many gms overlooked him: size and strength and uses it, can skate, poise, can deek, good shot and seems like a good team guy. They're always good deals at Costco, but getting X was some impressive shopping. Now if we can just get HuGo to take a trip down the goaltender aisle  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 13, 2022 13:53:31 GMT -5
X still makes mistakes and risky plays, particularly when he's in our zone - hopefully coaches can sort that out. But there is no doubt the tools this guy has are insane given how many gms overlooked him: size and strength and uses it, can skate, poise, can deek, good shot and seems like a good team guy. They're always good deals at Costco, but getting X was some impressive shopping. Now if we can just get HuGo to take a trip down the goaltender aisle Wifi is a .97 deal at Costco... lol... what I love was in the game, Allen had the puck and a pens took a wack and as soon as he saw wifi he backed up with his hand in the air... |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 13, 2022 15:07:40 GMT -5
We shouldn't expect X to see the game like Guhle. He's going to make mistakes and correct them for a few years until they become instinct.
He's going to struggle a bit with positioning because it's a multiple choice decision. A couple of feet can mean a lot. Eventually he will be make more of the better choices.
The upside is that i see a next game correction to the larger issues. Which means he learning and thinking.
Remember Komisarek? He didn't learn a damn thing despite years of "re-training". X is not Komi.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 13, 2022 15:56:07 GMT -5
We shouldn't expect X to see the game like Guhle. He's going to make mistakes and correct them for a few years until they become instinct. He's going to struggle a bit with positioning because it's a multiple choice decision. A couple of feet can mean a lot. Eventually he will be make more of the better choices. The upside is that i see a next game correction to the larger issues. Which means he learning and thinking. Remember Komisarek? He didn't learn a damn thing despite years of "re-training". X is not Komi. Imagine where X would be if he had a Markov. |
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Post by PTH on Nov 13, 2022 16:20:09 GMT -5
How good has Kirby Dach been? Well he has played 15 games as a Hab, and 20% of his CAREER point totals have been as a Hab Let that sink in I'm thinking he might still turn into that #2 center. Keep in mind he's from the same draft class as Caufield, ie, very young, and he's showing a lot of potential as a playmaking center. I could see him and Slaf being the core of a line with Suz and Caufield the core of another. Those two lines, in their prime, would be hard to defend against. But clearly Chicago gave up on him too soon... |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 13, 2022 16:57:52 GMT -5
We shouldn't expect X to see the game like Guhle. He's going to make mistakes and correct them for a few years until they become instinct. He's going to struggle a bit with positioning because it's a multiple choice decision. A couple of feet can mean a lot. Eventually he will be make more of the better choices. The upside is that i see a next game correction to the larger issues. Which means he learning and thinking. Remember Komisarek? He didn't learn a damn thing despite years of "re-training". X is not Komi. Imagine where X would be if he had a Markov. He made Komi look like an NHL defenseman.  I'm not sure that Markov was an active teacher. More like he could work with his pairing deficiencies. |
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