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Post by habsorbed on Nov 14, 2022 1:37:54 GMT -5
Imagine where X would be if he had a Markov. He made Komi look like an NHL defenseman.  I'm not sure that Markov was an active teacher. More like he could work with his pairing deficiencies. X has way more skill than Komi and is way ahead of where Komi was at this stage. And for all of Komi's size he was rarely a deterrent. Last night one of the mid-sized Pens (Zucker?) was going at it with X after a goal mouth scrum and X just laughed at the guy as if to say "This would be a one punch fight before you turtled". I like a guy who knows when is the appropriate time and opponent to drop the gloves. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2022 2:41:27 GMT -5
Imagine where X would be if he had a Markov. He made Komi look like an NHL defenseman. I'm not sure that Markov was an active teacher. More like he could work with his pairing deficiencies. Sheesh. I could look good next to Markov. Ok.....maybe not since I can barely skate, but the point is that if you are even an AHL defenseman and you get the puck, the obvious next move is a pass to Markov and you're out of your zone. Sometimes, you're picking up an assist or at worst, a plus, for doing nothing more than passing to an elite dman. Life was simple back then. Just ask Mike Komisarek. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2022 2:46:51 GMT -5
He made Komi look like an NHL defenseman. I'm not sure that Markov was an active teacher. More like he could work with his pairing deficiencies. X has way more skill than Komi and is way ahead of where Komi was at this stage. And for all of Komi's size he was rarely a deterrent. Last night one of the mid-sized Pens (Zucker?) was going at it with X after a goal mouth scrum and X just laughed at the guy as if to say "This would be a one punch fight before you turtled". I like a guy who knows when is the appropriate time and opponent to drop the gloves. I was chuckling at that too. It was Zucker and I have no idea what he was thinking. He didn't have time to write a suicide note, so it would have puzzled the homicide detectives for weeks. WiFi indeed, just shook his head and his facial expression said, "You probably have kids....I'd never be forgiven". |
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Post by mikeg on Nov 14, 2022 7:33:15 GMT -5
How good has Kirby Dach been? Well he has played 15 games as a Hab, and 20% of his CAREER point totals have been as a Hab Let that sink in I'm thinking he might still turn into that #2 center. Keep in mind he's from the same draft class as Caufield, ie, very young, and he's showing a lot of potential as a playmaking center. I could see him and Slaf being the core of a line with Suz and Caufield the core of another. Those two lines, in their prime, would be hard to defend against. But clearly Chicago gave up on him too soon... With Sean Farrell and Owen Beck in the pipeline, I don't know. If Dach is producing at this kind of level on this line on the wing, I think you keep him there and see what Farrell and Beck will bring in the next couple of years. Meanwhile Monahan is the stop gap. Give him a 3 year contract with good money due to the short term, hope he takes it and jut keep building. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 14, 2022 8:17:18 GMT -5
As soon as we got Dach, it made sense for him to have slaf on his wing but seeing Kirby on the 1st line gives us a true #1 line that is a threat everytime they are on the ice...
I love what Monahan bring, he got great vision and IQ and would be a good mentor for Slaf... also Monahan must be tired if playing with stiffs... slaf-monahan-anderson would be a good second line.
When was the last time we had a top six as big as
CC-suze-dach
Slaf-monahan-Anderson
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Post by Skilly on Nov 14, 2022 11:42:49 GMT -5
He made Komi look like an NHL defenseman. I'm not sure that Markov was an active teacher. More like he could work with his pairing deficiencies. X has way more skill than Komi and is way ahead of where Komi was at this stage. And for all of Komi's size he was rarely a deterrent. Last night one of the mid-sized Pens (Zucker?) was going at it with X after a goal mouth scrum and X just laughed at the guy as if to say "This would be a one punch fight before you turtled". I like a guy who knows when is the appropriate time and opponent to drop the gloves. I differ on this. I’m sick of Hab players getting mauled in goal mouth scrums, and the best hope we got is an even up call. I’d prefer if X grabbed him threw him up against the boards, and sent a message. You don’t $&%# with us anymore. He didn’t have to throw a punch, and trust me Zucker goes back to his bench telling everyone, “that guy is strong, I sh** my pants and he didn’t even throw a punch.” By choosing only appropriate dance partners, other teams will tell their tough guys to simply not engage, but let the little guys get dirty |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2022 14:01:06 GMT -5
As soon as we got Dach, it made sense for him to have slaf on his wing but seeing Kirby on the 1st line gives us a true #1 line that is a threat everytime they are on the ice... I love what Monahan bring, he got great vision and IQ and would be a good mentor for Slaf... also Monahan must be tired if playing with stiffs... slaf-monahan-anderson would be a good second line. When was the last time we had a top six as big as CC-suze-dach Slaf-monahan-Anderson There was a recent article (can't recall whose it was) which described a few plays where Dach ended up being the de facto centre on a play. There was one goal where Dach carried the puck up ice and Suzuki was on the left and Caufield on the right. A few passes later, it's in the net. Having Dach allows Suzuki more ice to roam, knowing his defensive space will be protected. Somehow, the chemistry is just right with those three. Having said that, Dach is gaining more and more confidence and should another winger come along with some hops who fits in with Suze and Caufield, it allows MSL to try Dach back on the second line, alongside Monahan perhaps, which worked well earlier. The other positive Dach brings to the line is a lot of defensive awareness. Earlier, while both Suzuki and Caufield were putting up points, it was common to see the stats page at the end of the game and they were in minus territory. Scoring a lot but being scored on more doesn't help the team. They're all in plus territory now. Sheesh. Just pause and let's have a round of applause for Jeff Gorton and Kent Hughes. Managing the tight CAP was handled like a rally driver: moving Weber's contract for one that expires after this year and gaining some breathing CAP room; trading from an area of impending strength (young dmen) to get Dach; picking up Kovacevic on waivers, instead of the various number of other guys available at the time; taking on Monahan and a first rounder (for a future year in which Calgary may not be a powerhouse); and we won't even go into the earlier trades of Toffoli, Kulak and Chiarot. The Lehkonen trade will take more time, but the overall report card is top of the class. No one has done more in less than a year than HuGo. Wow. |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 14, 2022 14:10:08 GMT -5
X has way more skill than Komi and is way ahead of where Komi was at this stage. And for all of Komi's size he was rarely a deterrent. Last night one of the mid-sized Pens (Zucker?) was going at it with X after a goal mouth scrum and X just laughed at the guy as if to say "This would be a one punch fight before you turtled". I like a guy who knows when is the appropriate time and opponent to drop the gloves. I differ on this. I’m sick of Hab players getting mauled in goal mouth scrums, and the best hope we got is an even up call. I’d prefer if X grabbed him threw him up against the boards, and sent a message. You don’t $&%# with us anymore. He didn’t have to throw a punch, and trust me Zucker goes back to his bench telling everyone, “that guy is strong, I sh** my pants and he didn’t even throw a punch.” By choosing only appropriate dance partners, other teams will tell their tough guys to simply not engage, but let the little guys get dirty Makes sense. I bet the coaches have talked to him about picking his spots. You can get injured in fights and is anyone going to respect a guy who rag dolls Zucker? Xhekaj is not just a goon, he's a talented dman and is needed on the ice. My guess is he's weighing those factors when the game is on and his coaches are also probably guiding him if a situation arises where some 'renovations' are required. I can't recall Larry Robinson's early fighting career, but the Schultz one was the key. Did Larry have to fight much after that? Things always calmed down when he arrived. WiFi's test may come against the Rangers or the Caps. He hasn't met a true heavyweight yet. As long as he holds his own against those guys, he'll be fine. What I really like about him is that he's not dumb. He learns quickly and adapts. Great judgment by the scouting crew at the time. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Nov 14, 2022 16:05:27 GMT -5
Hughes has done a great job so far but the easy part is over. Now the more difficult and less attractive contracts remain. Armia, Gallagher, Savard, Dvorak are all pieces that will eventually need to be moved and the real test will be getting superstar players to sign here. I think Dubois as second line center would be a good step if we don't, get a stud center at this summers draft.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 14, 2022 18:11:27 GMT -5
Hughes has done a great job so far but the easy part is over. Now the more difficult and less attractive contracts remain. Armia, Gallagher, Savard, Dvorak are all pieces that will eventually need to be moved and the real test will be getting superstar players to sign here. I think Dubois as second line center would be a good step if we don't, get a stud center at this summers draft. We'll see how he continues to play but if Beck can keep up his pace he could bevthe guy... we could have 2 Suzuki's which would be amazing |
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Post by habsorbed on Nov 15, 2022 2:51:40 GMT -5
X has way more skill than Komi and is way ahead of where Komi was at this stage. And for all of Komi's size he was rarely a deterrent. Last night one of the mid-sized Pens (Zucker?) was going at it with X after a goal mouth scrum and X just laughed at the guy as if to say "This would be a one punch fight before you turtled". I like a guy who knows when is the appropriate time and opponent to drop the gloves. I differ on this. I’m sick of Hab players getting mauled in goal mouth scrums, and the best hope we got is an even up call. I’d prefer if X grabbed him threw him up against the boards, and sent a message. You don’t $&%# with us anymore. He didn’t have to throw a punch, and trust me Zucker goes back to his bench telling everyone, “that guy is strong, I sh** my pants and he didn’t even throw a punch.” By choosing only appropriate dance partners, other teams will tell their tough guys to simply not engage, but let the little guys get dirty Your point makes sense if you're correct about is it ends in an even up call. In a tight game, I believe it was tied at the time, if X gets the extra 2 that is a dumb move (I'm pretty sure who the refs are going to give the extra 2, the big goon rookie not the small vet). Most rookies in X's place, big dmen, are loosing their cool and taking bad penalties. His poise in that situation tells me he gets it, and realizes he doesn't have to mix it up to be valuable to the team. He'll mix it up when he needs to. That was not the time. |
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Post by PTH on Nov 15, 2022 13:27:31 GMT -5
BTW, there's a great article in La Presse about the Dach trades. Apparently NYI had long been interested in Romanov and his name was only brought up on the day of the trade. CHI wanted a top 10 pick, hence adding the 3d rounder.
Östlund was apparently in the Habs' sights, seeing him as maybe even as a top 5 pick, and it's possible they would have picked him at 13 had they known he was going to be there, but the Dach trade had been done already. They aggressively tried to move up from 26 and 33 to get Östlund.
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Post by Willie Dog on Nov 15, 2022 17:03:20 GMT -5
BTW, there's a great article in La Presse about the Dach trades. Apparently NYI had long been interested in Romanov and his name was only brought up on the day of the trade. CHI wanted a top 10 pick, hence adding the 3d rounder. Östlund was apparently in the Habs' sights, seeing him as maybe even as a top 5 pick, and it's possible they would have picked him at 13 had they known he was going to be there, but the Dach trade had been done already. They aggressively tried to move up from 26 and 33 to get Östlund. Gotta love this management team... |
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Post by seventeen on Nov 16, 2022 0:28:39 GMT -5
BTW, there's a great article in La Presse about the Dach trades. Apparently NYI had long been interested in Romanov and his name was only brought up on the day of the trade. CHI wanted a top 10 pick, hence adding the 3d rounder. Östlund was apparently in the Habs' sights, seeing him as maybe even as a top 5 pick, and it's possible they would have picked him at 13 had they known he was going to be there, but the Dach trade had been done already. They aggressively tried to move up from 26 and 33 to get Östlund. I'm not sure if it was the same article, or just a response to it, but the question arose that having seen what Owen Beck is doing, maybe they're not disappointed at missing out on Ostlund, who is doing fine in the Swedish AHL. Beck is looking like anything but a second round pick. From .75 ppg to 1.47 ppg (almost double) and more impressively, from .31 goals per game to .87 goals per game since last season. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Nov 16, 2022 0:32:56 GMT -5
BTW, there's a great article in La Presse about the Dach trades. Apparently NYI had long been interested in Romanov and his name was only brought up on the day of the trade. CHI wanted a top 10 pick, hence adding the 3d rounder. Östlund was apparently in the Habs' sights, seeing him as maybe even as a top 5 pick, and it's possible they would have picked him at 13 had they known he was going to be there, but the Dach trade had been done already. They aggressively tried to move up from 26 and 33 to get Östlund. I'm not sure if it was the same article, or just a response to it, but the question arose that having seen what Owen Beck is doing, maybe they're not disappointed at missing out on Ostlund, who is doing fine in the Swedish AHL. Beck is looking like anything but a second round pick. Right now, Mešár + Beck >> Östlund. And Östlund would have to get pretty amazing down the road to tip the scales for me. |
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