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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 17, 2024 16:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 17, 2024 16:42:58 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Sept 17, 2024 17:29:42 GMT -5
Little X says hold my beer...while he beats up all of them.
According to McCagg Struble has a mean streak a mile wide but so far, he's kept it under control.
I love the amount of discipline Struble has and how he can play a simple and effective game. Will that elevate him past 6th defenseman? I don't think so. He has to show other aspects of his game to make him valuable.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 17, 2024 17:43:32 GMT -5
They kept the Thorpedo? Can he play in the AHL? I love to see Thorpedo, Little X and Tuch for a Pain Line Protz? He's a bit short from the making the AHL. Likely next year. |
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Post by folatre on Sept 17, 2024 18:44:59 GMT -5
I remember in April when Struble delivered a clean body check on a Leaf, Reaves skated over and said blah blah blah. Struble did not skate away or show any hint of nervousness; he just looked the old enforcer in the eyes and said whatever he whatever said (probably something to effect, hey man I'm going to drill someone next shift too, deal with it). Struble was always in the middle of every scrum that took place when he was on the ice. He is thick and tough. I know he came out of the NCAA (no fighting) and basically only took a cup of coffee (less than 25 games) in the A, so he is not super experienced throwing down, but I have a feeling that he could tangle with many of the mid-weights on teams around the league.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Sept 17, 2024 20:01:04 GMT -5
They kept the Thorpedo? Can he play in the AHL? I love to see Thorpedo, Little X and Tuch for a Pain Line Protz? He's a bit short from the making the AHL. Likely next year. Thorpe and Protz are both going back to their CHL clubs. |
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 17, 2024 21:39:49 GMT -5
Hard to believe how far we have come in such a short period to improving our size and toughness. And most have some degree of talent. These guys will make all the studs better.
Speaking of coming far, good to see Mailman wear the 'C' for the rookies. Good for his confidence and I assume management recognize some leadership abilities.
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 17, 2024 21:51:20 GMT -5
Sometimes i worry i'm drinking the Kool-Aid about all the young talent on D. But usually we have one or two guys we think/hope are the real deal. But we now have so many "can't miss" rookie guys on D that even if half of them miss, we will have an amazing d corp: Mailman, Hutson, Reinbacher, Engstrom; and then throw in Xman and Guhle. And altho I've given up on Barron, you never know. We may have the Big 4!!! I'm pretty sure it's grape Kool-Aid i've been drinking, but could be cherry  |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 17, 2024 23:27:16 GMT -5
They kept the Thorpedo? Can he play in the AHL? I love to see Thorpedo, Little X and Tuch for a Pain Line Protz? He's a bit short from the making the AHL. Likely next year. Thorpe and Protz are both going back to their CHL clubs. There was never a doubt. Their progress is best driven in the CHL and it makes sense for them to get to their clubs early. They aren't serious contenders for a spot this year. |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 17, 2024 23:34:25 GMT -5
Sometimes i worry i'm drinking the Kool-Aid about all the young talent on D. But usually we have one or two guys we think/hope are the real deal. But we now have so many "can't miss" rookie guys on D that even if half of them miss, we will have an amazing d corp: Mailman, Hutson, Reinbacher, Engstrom; and then throw in Xman and Guhle. And altho I've given up on Barron, you never know. We may have the Big 4!!! I'm pretty sure it's grape Kool-Aid i've been drinking, but could be cherry No, your hopes are not misplaced. Not all those guys will play for the Habs (I'm kind of hoping they will) but they're NHL'rs for sure. I really liked what I saw of Engstrom over the weekend. He even had a shift on the right side and he played half the season for Rogle last year on the right. That hasn't seemed to be brought into the equation for the D pairings, but it could make for a lot more flexibility. How does a right side of Reinbacher, Engstrom and Mailloux sound? There might not ge enough ice time for all of them. Not this year of course, but once Savard is bypassed and Matheson aged out, that would still leave us with those 3, plus Guhle, Hutson, Struble and Arber on the left. Barron is still in the equation as well. It's a good solid group with much more talent that most teams on the 3rd pair. We should be able to withstand injuries much better than in the past, both on D and up front. |
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Post by Polarice on Sept 18, 2024 5:20:39 GMT -5
Little X says hold my beer...while he beats up all of them. According to McCagg Struble has a mean streak a mile wide but so far, he's kept it under control. I love the amount of discipline Struble has and how he can play a simple and effective game. Will that elevate him past 6th defenseman? I don't think so. He has to show other aspects of his game to make him valuable. If he wants ice time he'll have to play with a style that makes him more valuable. I get a little giddy when thinking about the fear Wifi, Mailman and Struble could bring to an opposing team. Then partner them up with guys like Hutson, Guhle, Reinbacher, Barron, Matheson will give teams nightmares for years to come. |
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Post by seventeen on Sept 18, 2024 11:38:16 GMT -5
Little X says hold my beer...while he beats up all of them. According to McCagg Struble has a mean streak a mile wide but so far, he's kept it under control. I love the amount of discipline Struble has and how he can play a simple and effective game. Will that elevate him past 6th defenseman? I don't think so. He has to show other aspects of his game to make him valuable. If he wants ice time he'll have to play with a style that makes him more valuable. I get a little giddy when thinking about the fear Wifi, Mailman and Struble could bring to an opposing team. Then partner them up with guys like Hutson, Guhle, Reinbacher, Barron, Matheson will give teams nightmares for years to come. We want to be like the John Ferguson or Larry Robinson Habs. We simply want to be so feared physically that we don't have to get into those situations and we can let our skill flourish. So you need the Ferguson's, Robinson's, Chartraws, etc. to put the fear of god into other teams. That's why I cringe when anyone suggests that we should trade Arber. They don't understand what he brings to a team in raising the confidence and play of his teammates. |
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Post by Cranky on Sept 18, 2024 15:04:39 GMT -5
We need more then tough fighters, we need guys with loose screws. The deterence lays in teams KNOWING that their players will be damaged goods if they touch our stars.
That's were Little X or someone who can contribute while smiling like he lost his screws and wont mind a few days of a suspension.
For the record, Furgeson would deliberatly pick and fight with the other teams stars. He did it with Bobby Hull even though Hull was coming back from a jaw injury. Furgeson re-broke it
THAT was a hell of a deterence. Fergy was known for loosening his own screws and hurting people in a fight. None of these sweater tugging dances.
I don't think Little X is that nutty.
So unless we become the St Catherine street team wide bullies, something we can do now and actually set the bar at "we will maim you and love it", Hutson, CC and Demigod will be targetted.
BTW...if i was X, the next game i played against Tinordi he's eating a 107 shot in the chest or a wrist shot in the face. Accidentally of course. I would beg for forginvess afterward but no one would believe it's an accident. THAT is delivering a message, Furgeson level.
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 18, 2024 17:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Sept 18, 2024 18:44:58 GMT -5
BTW...if i was X, the next game i played against Tinordi he's eating a 107 shot in the chest or a wrist shot in the face. Accidentally of course. I would beg for forginvess afterward but no one would believe it's an accident. THAT is delivering a message, Ferguson level. It may have been accidental, but that hit has bugged me the entire year. |
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Post by Cranky on Sept 18, 2024 19:35:31 GMT -5
I wrote this elsewhere... Unless there is a major injury to a top 6, if they don't move into mediocre 90 point territory with their existing lineup then there are serious problems.
After that the major improvements to get into contention is Demidov, defenseman maturing and defensive system. That adds the 15-20 point into contender territory. That should be about 3 years away at most.
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Post by Cranky on Sept 18, 2024 19:42:25 GMT -5
BTW...if i was X, the next game i played against Tinordi he's eating a 107 shot in the chest or a wrist shot in the face. Accidentally of course. I would beg for forginvess afterward but no one would believe it's an accident. THAT is delivering a message, Ferguson level. It may have been accidental, but that hit has bugged me the entire year. It went unpunished so why shouldn't he do it again. I don't care if it appeared like an accident, the price has to be paid. Without question, Furgeson tune him up. No chance that he would not pay the price of his actions. The least X can do is drop a few canon shots. In fact, I expect that if Mailman and X are paired, these "accidents" will happen. |
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Post by habsorbed on Sept 19, 2024 9:37:33 GMT -5
Here we go again: Guhle out for at least a week. Good news is it wasn't a hockey injury; he had his appendix out. Hopefully no complications  |
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Post by Cranky on Sept 19, 2024 13:14:14 GMT -5
Here we go again: Guhle out for at least a week. Good news is it wasn't a hockey injury; he had his appendix out. Hopefully no complications That's going to remove an ounce of weight and should make him lighter on his feet... I had mine removed 63 years ago and it may not be as invasive as what they use to be otherwise.... Dr Cranky says it's a small operation and more like a month to seal up and not be a stress-to-the-core issue. Too bad he didn't do it during the summer but the damn things is not a problem until it's a problem and just comes on suddenly then needs to be dealt with immidiatly. The tiny upside is that it may get us Mailman to start the season but the last thing we need is a Matheson-Mailmain combo, aka, The Adventure Duo. Mailman is nowhere near Guhle defensivly and is going to get exposed like a Greek nudist beach if Matheson does his usual high risk adventures. They BOTH need Guhle type to make them effective. Or Matheson plays with Savard and we get Hutson-Mailman combo. The huge upside is that it may be one heck of an accelerator to our future duo. Let's see... |
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Post by IamCanadiens on Sept 19, 2024 16:06:13 GMT -5
I donated mine on New Years Eve 1991 if I remember correctly. At my request, my dad dropped me off at emerg while chewing me out for clearly drinking too much the day before and trying to burn his precious chicken instead of walking my lazy ass 20 minutes to the hospital. I opened the door of the car, dragged my hunched body out and dad sped off yelling profanities in his mother tongue. After a brief examination, I was wheeled into the operating room and the anesthesiologist Harry, who was my GP growing up got me super stoned for the big party. He asked me to count down from 100 by 3. I started counting, got super sleepy and realized I'd never get to 1 so I yelled "7 4 1" at the top of my lungs. The last thing I remembered was hearing laughter from the operating crew until I woke up on the table with Harry looking surprised to see me awake. I asked him if I could see my appendix and he brought me a pill vial with an off white scum covered large kidney bean shaped object within. Woke up once more in a hospital room high on Demerol and noticed a big balloon tied to a champagne bottle on the night stand. Wasn't that a party!
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Post by HABsurd on Sept 19, 2024 17:14:47 GMT -5
Here we go again: Guhle out for at least a week. Good news is it wasn't a hockey injury; he had his appendix out. Hopefully no complications Assuming he had a laparoscopic appendectomy, he was probably sent home after a few hours and a full recovery is within a few weeks. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Sept 19, 2024 17:25:42 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew on Sept 19, 2024 18:10:49 GMT -5
I don't think Little X is that nutty. I'm not so sure HA. Maybe there's hope that he is that nutty. Listen to Arber talk about his brother on the Chicklets podcast: Arber: "He's got anger problems I think" youtu.be/ghA3COi3DPw?si=dYnXuQ6VsZI7gTed&t=9823 |
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Post by Cranky on Sept 19, 2024 18:19:31 GMT -5
Here we go again: Guhle out for at least a week. Good news is it wasn't a hockey injury; he had his appendix out. Hopefully no complications Assuming he had a laparoscopic appendectomy, he was probably sent home after a few hours and a full recovery is within a few weeks. I, as the renown Dr Cranky, was going to look up the latest appendectomies removal techniques just after watching the latest beeper re-wiring videos...  Everyone in my generation or older has a nice little belly scar which is not exactly huge, but would put a crimp on physical play for a while. I ass'ume that the incision is so small as to not leave too much of a cut into the abdominal muscles. If we are to rise to the lofty heights of mediocrity, we can NOT afford for him or any of our top players to start losing months of play. Particularly a key player like Guhle. |
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Post by Cranky on Sept 19, 2024 18:43:38 GMT -5
I don't think Little X is that nutty. I'm not so sure HA. Maybe there's hope that he is that nutty. Listen to Arber talk about his brother on the Chicklets podcast: Arber: "He's got anger problems I think" youtu.be/ghA3COi3DPw?si=dYnXuQ6VsZI7gTed&t=9823I kind of praying he does. Like X, I want him to spend a bit of time in a boxing gym to teach him how to defend himself against punches. That WILL be huge to win and keep his brain and hands from turning into mush. Chin down, create an opening and quick jab instead of sweater tugging and hand busting helmet shots. When Lucic totally humiliated Komisarek, he wasn't the same again. It wasn't about strength, it was one guy who knew how to fight and another who was a glorified hugger. I'm getting the feeling that the X brothers are Hab lifers and they might as well be the best they can be in their chosen side gig. Anywho...my favorite player after The Rocket and Pocket Rocket... www.habsworld.net/2007/07/the-legend-of-john-ferguson/ |
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Post by folatre on Sept 19, 2024 18:50:06 GMT -5
IamC, man, that is a wild story.
I was taking my son home from practice today when I heard about Guhle. I was just glad to hear it was not a hockey injury related that could linger. And then I started telling him about Patrick Roy's case of appendicitis on the eve of a playoff series in the early '90s against the Bruins. My son asked if St. Patrick made it back and led the Habs to victory. I suddenly felt unsure of the info that I was presenting as gospel and since I was driving I could not fact check myself, so I just said Nico we're talking about Roy of course he healed quickly and got the job done.
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Post by folatre on Sept 19, 2024 19:22:39 GMT -5
Andrew, I heard that podcast. It sounds like the Deputy's default setting is playing hockey angry.
Cranky, for sure, if the top six forwards, top four d-men, and Montembeault are mostly injury free, then yeah I really want 90 points. But honestly, I would see anything 85+ as acceptable.
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Post by jkr on Sept 19, 2024 19:58:48 GMT -5
IamC, man, that is a wild story. I was taking my son home from practice today when I heard about Guhle. I was just glad to hear it was not a hockey injury related that could linger. And then I started telling him about Patrick Roy's case of appendicitis on the eve of a playoff series in the early '90s against the Bruins. My son asked if St. Patrick made it back and led the Habs to victory. I suddenly felt unsure of the info that I was presenting as gospel and since I was driving I could not fact check myself, so I just said Nico we're talking about Roy of course he healed quickly and got the job done. I wasnt sure either so I did some checking. It was the 94 playoffs. When Roy started to show symptoms he was hospitalized. He did come back to play the last 4 games including a 60 save performance in game 5 but Boston won in 7. He had his appendix removed a few days later. So they did not win but Roy's performances were heroic. |
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Post by folatre on Sept 19, 2024 21:13:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, friend.
Man, time flies, I would not have bet more than $20 this afternoon on the year I was kind of thinking it was (my murky recollection was 1990 or 91). Well, at least the general learning lesson for my son was not full of BS since St. Patrick actually did go into hero mode despite the appendicitis.
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Post by seventeen on Sept 19, 2024 22:53:26 GMT -5
I donated mine on New Years Eve 1991 if I remember correctly. At my request, my dad dropped me off at emerg while chewing me out for clearly drinking too much the day before and trying to burn his precious chicken instead of walking my lazy ass 20 minutes to the hospital. I opened the door of the car, dragged my hunched body out and dad sped off yelling profanities in his mother tongue. After a brief examination, I was wheeled into the operating room and the anesthesiologist Harry, who was my GP growing up got me super stoned for the big party. He asked me to count down from 100 by 3. I started counting, got super sleepy and realized I'd never get to 1 so I yelled "7 4 1" at the top of my lungs. The last thing I remembered was hearing laughter from the operating crew until I woke up on the table with Harry looking surprised to see me awake. I asked him if I could see my appendix and he brought me a pill vial with an off white scum covered large kidney bean shaped object within. Woke up once more in a hospital room high on Demerol and noticed a big balloon tied to a champagne bottle on the night stand. Wasn't that a party! Love that story! Especially the part about your dad, yelling at you in his native tongue and just dropping you off. |
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