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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 20, 2003 9:52:17 GMT -5
Meh...the board is so quiet right now..time to spice it up a little. so, how do you hate more? the Laffs or the Booins? I have to go with the Booins. Sure I hate the Laffs, the freakin TO media makes it even worse(last night on sportsnet they had a poll about the biggest off-season moves in the NHL...Hatcher signing, Fedorov signing, Kariya/Selanne signing, Hasek returning was the top 4..and guess what was the 5th choice..  the whole Svehla retires/unretires thing )..but the Habs haven't faced the Laffs in the playoffs for years...while we seem to face the Booins at least a few times each decade and every series is hard fought and full of passion. I also hate the fact the Bruins seem to be able to find core/star players so easily. Allison, Carter they get for oldies like Oates/Tocchet, they suck one year and get Thornton, they deal Wesley and get Samsonov and McLaren because of it. The whole Neely thing...arrrrrrrrrgh  |
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Post by ED on Jul 20, 2003 10:19:43 GMT -5
I hate the Bruins more.
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Post by sshrags on Jul 20, 2003 11:03:05 GMT -5
Got to be Toronto.
Of course, the Canadian rivalry definitely makes this decision easier. But there's something about Toronto and their fans that just annoy me.
They Whine, Complain, and laugh at the Canadiens thinking they're better then us. And all we have to do is ask them how many stanley cups they haev and when was the last time they won one. And aside from Sundin and Mogilny, they have no real talent.
As for Boston, of course there's a heated rivalry there... BUT... wow, they have some players on that team. They're a young team and it's interesting to see how they've built the team through draft picks and developin their talent. You have to admire that. And they're just really fun to watch.
But of course... HABS FOREVER.
It'll be interesting to watch the young ones this year
I'll be upset if they don't make the playoffs... I mean, that's why I watch the season and hold season tickets.. to watch them go all the way.
But with this young core, they'll be hard pressed to make playoffs this year.
GOOD LUCK TO THEM THOUGH...
Go Habs Go
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Post by KR on Jul 20, 2003 11:14:20 GMT -5
The Leafs by a landslide. Not that I don't despise the Bruins as well, but my disgust for the Laffs runs so deep that every other team is left in the wake. To me the Leafs epitomize everything that is wrong with the game of hockey and pro sports in general. From the price of their tickets (which are out of reach for the majority and still going up) to the unbelieveable Toronto media whach makes stars out of ordinary players. From the incredibly classless, dirty antics of a team loaded with classless, dirty players like MeIdiot, Tucker, Belak, Marchment, McCabe and Roberts to management's feeble attempts to buy a winner. From the incredible bias of the CBC and the HNIC crew which only fuels the hatred to the idiotic fans who infest the Corel Center and the Bell Center, walk on cars in the parking lot, urinate in front of the arena and generally behave like the drunken buffoons they are. I guess that about covers it:)
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 20, 2003 11:17:01 GMT -5
As for Boston, of course there's a heated rivalry there... BUT... wow, they have some players on that team. They're a young team and it's interesting to see how they've built the team through draft picks and developin their talent. You have to admire that. And they're just really fun to watch. good for us their owner doesn't want to spend to add to their team (like say, getting a *cough* goalie *cough* )  or else they'd be really scary. btw, you are a true Habs fan  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2003 11:23:46 GMT -5
Boston's a fun rivalry when we play them on the ice, but the Maple Leafs organization along with their fans, media, etc really disturb me, so, I dislike them more. ;D
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Post by rtravale on Jul 20, 2003 11:25:37 GMT -5
Boston is our true rival but I also respect them. They have always been a class act.
Toronto on the other hand has the most retarded fans and a team philosophy that turns my stomach.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 20, 2003 11:53:20 GMT -5
For any of you who either live in Montreal, or grew up there, you know that the Montreal-Toronto rivalry extends way beyond just hockey. However, nowhere is it as evident as in the gladiator's arena know as the Centre Bell or ACC. Habs and Leafs fan are brought up to instinctually disagree with each other on any topic related to hockey. Upper Canada-Lower Canada, French Canadian-English Canadian, there are so many interesting threads of competitiveness between the two big cities that no other American rival can come close to matching. Any good Habs fan will also cringe if the Blue Jays beat the 'Spos, or if the Argos beat the Als. Both team's fans are so solidly behind their teams, so that extends the rivalry way beyond the hockey ice. The rivalry is fun, and not likely to go away anytime soon!!
Oh yeah...1967.
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Post by HFTO on Jul 20, 2003 12:39:10 GMT -5
Naturally it has always been the Leafs,in many ways because thats the way it has to be.
For the older Hab fans its because of the Leaf fans hatred towards us probably out of jealousy or envy and the fact many always seem to be boorishly in your face as if they were the team with the greater history.
As far as the Bruins go the rivalry heated up with all those great teams by both sides in the 70's though I hated the Bruins you had to respect them they had some great teams.If not for the Habs the Bruins would have been the 70's dynasty.
1.Leafs
2.Bruins
3.Buffalo (close 2nd just becuz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz uz! You have to
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Post by PeterPuck on Jul 20, 2003 13:39:41 GMT -5
Got to be Toronto. Of course, the Canadian rivalry definitely makes this decision easier. But there's something about Toronto and their fans that just annoy me. They Whine, Complain, and laugh at the Canadiens thinking they're better then us. And all we have to do is ask them how many stanley cups they haev and when was the last time they won one. And aside from Sundin and Mogilny, they have no real talent. Go Habs Go Yep same for me, Toronto fans have this undeserved arrogance, they act like they have won 24 cups and are the most storied club in hockey, man they haven`t even made it to the finals since 67......that annoys the crap out of me. Boston I respect they always have a competative team and there is no better hockey series to watch than the Habs and the Bs. IMO ;D |
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Post by MC Habber on Jul 20, 2003 13:58:15 GMT -5
Easily Toronto. Boston I respect a lot more but Toronto I really dislike (although I sometimes cheer for them in the playoffs if they're the last Canadian team).
Philadelphia is a close second, partly because of their GM. I NEVER cheer for the Flyers (unless they're playing the Leafs).
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Post by Thanatos on Jul 20, 2003 14:47:06 GMT -5
Although in the past I used to hate Boston with a passion insatiated by time or their inevitable failures, lately Toronto and their fans have drawn much more ire from me.
Most of the Boston fans that I know love their Bruins in the hearts, but in their heads they realize that Boston has done little or nothing of worth in the last 30 years. The same simply isn't true of most of the Laff fans I've unfortunately met.
I don't know how many Laff fans I've met on various boards and in person who have told me in all honestly that Toronto is the better of the Habs, not just in the last few years, over the last 20 years or even during the 70's as well. And they're actually serious! I'd have quite a pile of cash if I had a dollar for every time I read or heard some Laff's fan say with a straight face that the Laffs were among the elite teams in the NHL and or serious contenders for the 'Cup, I've seldom heard Bruin's fans say something similar, especially lately.
IMO, the unearned arrogance and smugness of the average Toronto fan simply screams out for them to be the most hate foe of the Habs fan.
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Post by HFFM on Jul 20, 2003 19:14:26 GMT -5
Definitely the Bruins. In fact at this point, I would say that I hate the Rangers even more than I hate the Leafs.
I grew up in an area that was 50% Habs' fans and 50% Boston fans, yet due to the fact that I lived in New England, the local media did whatever it could to push the Bruins' down our throats as the "home town team". This, despite the fact that there were just as many Habs' fans in the area and a large contingency of Franco-Americans who would watch the Habs' games on a station we received from Sherbrooke. This aspect, coupled with the obnoxious and rude fans and the WORST commentators of all time in Fred Cusick and Derek Sanderson, made it only natural that I grew to loathe the Bruins more than any other professional sports franchise except for the Dallas Cowboys.
As for the Ranger$, I didn't have much of a problem with them until I went to college in New York and was surrounded by Rags' fans who came out of the wood-work in 1994. The obnoxious manner in which the fans thought they had some sort of dynasty on their hands simply because they won a single Cup in 54 years and the free-spending nature of that team really got my goat after a while, to the point where I dislike them almost as much as I dislike the Bruins.
As for the Leafs, they are definitely a team I dislike, but that has more do to with recent history than past history. I find myself rooting against them more because I don't like their dirty players and whiny coach.
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Post by blaise on Jul 20, 2003 19:55:56 GMT -5
I dislike both, but theMaple fLeas more because of their obnoxious, boastful, arrogant fans. Last season they showed condescension toward the Habs fans by pitying them for their financial woes. They brayed that Toronto would always be on top because it is the money center of Canada and could therefore always outspend the Habs. Little did they know that the fLeas were in the hands of money-grubbing cheapskates who wouldn't invest in the team. The Jacobs brothers act similarly toward the Bruins, and the Bruins fans despise the Habs. However, their reason for doing so is the one-sided playoff record, whereas the Torontoans consider their city and culture superior. Of course, l'Orchestre Symphonique de Montréal is superior to the Toronto Symphony, and McGill is superior to any university in Toronto, but they don't realize it.
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Post by habs4life on Jul 20, 2003 21:51:17 GMT -5
The leafs.
The fans did it for me.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jul 21, 2003 7:04:23 GMT -5
This one is easy for me ... TO all the way! But I must admit that my "hate" had more than one target... In the 70's, I hated the Bruins. But they were fun to hate. They were a tough team and always gave good competition. The games were fun and entertaining. In the 80's, I despised the Nordiques. The rivalry was awesome and the games were always packed with fights and great hits. The Laffs were never really competition for us back then since they weren't a competitive team  . The fact that they were in the Clarence Campbell conference didn't help build up the rivalry either. We played them once, maybe twice a year. The big difference however, is that I hated the Bruins and the Nordique cause we were playing them often and there's always bad blood. But the Laffs were different. It would be simply pleasureable to hate them. Not only for their hockey game, but the whole organisation and fans. Today, the media adds to it. In summary, the Laffs were, will and always will be the most hated team in my books. But they weren't the best rivalry for many years. Hopefully, this will change in the near future and I can hate them again for their hockey as well. THF |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 21, 2003 9:21:27 GMT -5
For me, at its peak, the MTL-BOS rivalry was one of the best in all of sports. The days of intense divisional play, when you had to play each other 8 times a year and then again in the playoffs. There was always hate in the air during a Habs-Bruins game - even the regular season games had meaning.
Those days are gone. The rivalry with Toronto is bigger now, but it has yet to reach the levels of Habs-Bruins in the 1970s and 1980s. Being a lousy team takes a lot out of the rivalry, so we need to get much better before we can take these rivalries seriously.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jul 21, 2003 11:21:23 GMT -5
The rivalry with Toronto is bigger now, but it has yet to reach the levels of Habs-Bruins in the 1970s and 1980s. Being a lousy team takes a lot out of the rivalry, so we need to get much better before we can take these rivalries seriously. That is a tough and bitter pill to swallow for us Habs fans. We see the rivalry, but the Leaf fans just see a struggling team that they expect to beat. I see both teams heading in different directions, and the newer and younger Habs that we should start to see soon will provide that strong on-ice rivalry. Also, given that the new NHL sched has us playing the Leafs a lot more than in the past...the rivalry will just get better and better. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jul 21, 2003 11:55:13 GMT -5
Agreed. The fact that the Habs are stocking up on strong character, strong work ethic, gritty players, should make us improve and surpass the Laffs in a couple of years. Now that the Laffs have very little prospects wise, and their team is getting older, we can expect to have a full blown rivalry as early as 2004-2005.
Compared to a couple of years ago, the restocked Habs will play with a lot more grit. Granted, it isn't hard to beat. But as the Laffs get older, and more tired, the Habs will be flying high with their youth and enthousiasm. Sounds like playback time for a couple of dirty players....
THF
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 21, 2003 12:17:51 GMT -5
Agreed. The fact that the Habs are stocking up on strong character, strong work ethic, gritty players, should make us improve and surpass the Laffs in a couple of years. Now that the Laffs have very little prospects wise, and their team is getting older, we can expect to have a full blown rivalry as early as 2004-2005. Compared to a couple of years ago, the restocked Habs will play with a lot more grit. Granted, it isn't hard to beat. But as the Laffs get older, and more tired, the Habs will be flying high with their youth and enthousiasm. Sounds like playback time for a couple of dirty players.... THF We can only hope...think the CBC will stop showing TO games every weekend as the primary game if the Habs and other canadian teams are constantly better? |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jul 21, 2003 12:27:01 GMT -5
We can only hope...think the CBC will stop showing TO games every weekend as the primary game if the Habs and other canadian teams are constantly better? Then again, it's kinda fun watching the Laff fans witnessing their team get pounded on a weekly basis! I know I thoroughly enjoyed it in the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's!!! ;D THF |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 21, 2003 12:28:27 GMT -5
Then again, it's kinda fun watching the Laff fans witnessing their team get pounded on a weekly basis! I know I thoroughly enjoyed it in the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's!!! ;D THF ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good point. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 21, 2003 14:46:43 GMT -5
There is no HABS/Leafs rivalry since there hasn't been any important or passionate games between these 2 teams in almost 4 decades yet so many fans hate them... We can only immagin how great this rivalry would be if we would have had a few heated playoff rounds between us.
Leafs and their fans are simply the most hated bunch of the NHL. Back a few years ago when HABSRUS was on the Rival network, I conducted a survey on NHL team's site about which team/fans were the most hated and every fan base elected the Leafs but for the Red Wings fan base who very oddly picked Montreal... (!)
* note that the Montreal fan base was always among the most hated bunch (they are arrogant, they live in the past, they think their trash players are worth gold...)
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Post by HABSLAND on Jul 21, 2003 15:18:27 GMT -5
It has to be the Leafs
Boston is a rivalry that we respect alot, we do hate them but they don't piss us off as much as the Leafs. The media is just annoying, the players they get are a bunch of goons that annoy the crap out of me. Their fans have to be the dumbest ones in the league.
When i was is Cancun last winter during spring break, alot of people were from Toronto. They are assholes, in every sense of the word. They scream Go leafs go in clubs there, they are loudmouth bastards. I got into an argument with one fan in a bus there, and oh my God I thought I was talking to a donkey. He was saying the Habs suck , theo is just crap, Belfour is a god he should be MVP, stuff like that, they would win the Cup, and I kept telling him that they will get beat in the First round and he was like no way we have the Cup this year.
Anyways, even when u go at the Molson Center for hockey games, the Bruins fans are loudmouths too, but no where close to the Leaf fans. They just think they are Canada's team and all that.
When I heard they wanted to organize a rally in front of the Air Canada center because they hadn't signed a free agent yet, that just blew me off. Everything with the organization is disorganized, the whole story with Quinn, since when does a coach have a say in who the gm should be and attend interviews.
Anyways this organization is a mess and I hope it gets worst next year for them.
Go habs go, and I can place a 100 dollar bet that we win a Cup faster than they will, and boy must they be pissed that we have Gainey.
Habs all the way
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jul 22, 2003 0:18:14 GMT -5
If you're a Hab fan living in any part of Southern Ontario, then the choice is easily the Leafs. For me it's the Leafs because I'm constantly surrounded by their moronic fans and media. In most cases I'm left to defend my beloved Habs all by myself. Reasons: the constant belief that they are "Canada's Team", even though with six Canadian teams located across the country, nowadays it's hard to label any team as Canada's own... Stormin' Norman (a personality on the FAN590) refers to the Leafs as "God's Team"... the fans here in Toronto seem to plan a Cup parade every September... and lastly, their arrogance that they are a part of the NHL's elite, even though the Vancouver Canucks, Florida Panthers, Carolina Hurricanes and Anaheim Mighty Ducks have made the finals more times than them in the last 36 years. Why do they keep talking about a Cup when they can't even make the Finals??? In short, everything about the Laffs makes me want to punch a hole in my wall. I despise them like nothing else on this great planet we call earth. RAKE THE LEAFS!!! |
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Post by bp on Jul 22, 2003 9:43:38 GMT -5
Toronto FANS!
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Post by 24 and counting on Jul 22, 2003 11:01:19 GMT -5
For me, it's Toronto for two reasons. First, I live there so I have to put up with the constant bombardment of the pro Leaf media and the idiot fans. Second, I am a season ticket holder at the ACC  - Why you ask? Well, first I married into the tickets. But more importantly, this way I get to go to all of the Habs games when they visit Toronto, and then I fleece stupid Toronto fans who'll pay a premium for my seats. By the way, I hate Boston too. In fact, I hate anyone who doesn't wear the Bleu, Blanc & Rouge. |
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Post by Mad Max on Jul 22, 2003 12:22:36 GMT -5
That's a tough question ... would I rather get it by a bus or a truck?  Hmmmmmm, well, had you asked me that question 10 or 12 years ago, I would certainly have vigorously said Boston. Sure, the East/West conference configuration makes for a WAY more interesting playoff race, but the old divisions, especially the Adams created great rivalries that, IMO, could never be recreated. Playing so many games against teams in your division and then having to face them in the playoffs year after year after year ... well, it just made sparks fly even days before a BRUINS/HABS game. However, since the NHL facelift, my hatred for TO has grown more and more each year to the point that it far surpasses what I feel for Boston. One reason for that is that everything annoying that Boston fans do, Leaf fans do worse. Sure, Boston fans swarm to Montreal whenever the Bruins are in town and think the Peel Pub is the best thing since the invention of the light bulb, they chant USA while walking down Crescent street, and they don't understand why they get turned away when they try to get into a club wearing sneakers, tight-fitting jeans and a baseball cap. But that's not nearly as annoying as Leaf fans who arrive in town 3 days before a game, walk in packs down Sainte-Catherine wearing their leaf jerseys, and high-fiving each other whenever they cross paths with another group of neanderthals wearing the white and blue. I hate how they sworm the Bell center and chant go leafs go for no particular reason, and how they oggle Montreal's world-famous beautiful women thinking they could actually hook up with one of them. And that's just the fans ... don't get me started on the media (especially HNIC), team management, and the actual team!! ;D |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 22, 2003 13:05:35 GMT -5
I would rather crawl a trail of sandpaper, and then swim through a vat of iodine, before cheering for anything Maple Leaf-ish. God, they repel me. The repulse me, in a belly-dancing-for-the-pregnant kind of way. They are more annoying than an uncomfortable underwear moment.
There is nothing – nothing- about the Toronto Maple Leafs that I like. Not their building, which makes me wish Air Canada would finally give it up and hand over the country’s airways to WestJet, and certainly not their team, a hideously grotesque collection of whiners, slackers, skulkers and a whole bunch of other “ers”. Which is kind of how Ken Dryden talks. “Er,” this, and “er” that. Sheesh. The man is more boring than a “Grammar is Fun” course. And don’t get me started on their fans! Fat, ugly, with rotting teeth, the infamous “short-long” haircut that went out with lead paint (which apparently many still use), they wouldn’t know a laundry-mat if their sweat stained, formerly white t-shirts started begging to go to one. They cuss, they swear, they spill beer all over their shag carpets (at least I think they are carpets – it might just be dog hair), they throw things, they burp, and they pass enough gas to make that whole Kyoto agreement pretty much obsolete. And that’s just the women. Thankfully, those aren’t the ones that go to the ACC (“Aaack” is right!). No siree. Those “fans” are a bunch of latte swilling, pink-shirt wearing, start-at-10-leave-at-4-no-way-I-would-ever-give-you-a-loan-lets-raise-service-charges-again, sissy wannabes, quietly waving their stupid little Maple Leaf flags (get them off your frigging car, for the love of Stanley!), bemoaning the vast New York conspiracy working against their “rightful” claim to the Cup, and insisting that “Darcy Tucker really is a swell guy.” Tucker is so ugly his poppa had to tie a pork chop around his neck, just so the dog would play with him. Lets just say this; the day after Darcy Tucker was born, his mother's obstetrician went on a drinking binge of such magnitude that they still sing songs about it in certain Southeast Asian tribes. Ultimately, it cost him his job, his wife, his sanity and the lives of three baby chipmunks. He was last seen alive, teetering on the edge of a very high building, a bottle of whiskey in one hand, an "adult relationship enhancing device" in the other, and muttering the words "miracle of birth, my a**." Sure every single player in the NHL wants to don that Blue and White sweater. Sure they do.
And what’s up with the sweater? I have one, but that’s just because I use it to scare small children on Halloween. I have a pair of Leaf underwear too, but that seems oddly appropriate, given that I eat a lot chili. Some people like to mock the Leafs because they haven’t won a Cup since 1967, but even that repulses me. I wasn’t alive then, and the thought of it still makes me sick. Any coincidence the Quebec Separation movement kicked into high gear during the late 60’s? I hope they never win another Cup. Ever. Cause the day the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup is the day I smear dirt on my face, tear up all my clothes and start practicing my “get your paws off me, you d*amn, dirt ape!” routine. Surely a Leaf victory can only mean the collapse of society as we know it? Anarchy? Chaos? The total disappearance of all that is good and right with the world? <shudder>
Don’t get me started on the Bruins.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jul 22, 2003 13:33:42 GMT -5
I would rather crawl a trail of sandpaper, and then swim through a vat of iodine, before cheering for anything Maple Leaf-ish. God, they repel me. The repulse me, in a belly-dancing-for-the-pregnant kind of way. They are more annoying than an uncomfortable underwear moment. There is nothing – nothing- about the Toronto Maple Leafs that I like. Not their building, which makes me wish Air Canada would finally give it up and hand over the country’s airways to WestJet, and certainly not their team, a hideously grotesque collection of whiners, slackers, skulkers and a whole bunch of other “ers”. Which is kind of how Ken Dryden talks. “Er,” this, and “er” that. Sheesh. The man is more boring than a “Grammar is Fun” course. And don’t get me started on their fans! Fat, ugly, with rotting teeth, the infamous “short-long” haircut that went out with lead paint (which apparently many still use), they wouldn’t know a laundry-mat if their sweat stained, formerly white t-shirts started begging to go to one. They cuss, they swear, they spill beer all over their shag carpets (at least I think they are carpets – it might just be dog hair), they throw things, they burp, and they pass enough gas to make that whole Kyoto agreement pretty much obsolete. And that’s just the women. Thankfully, those aren’t the ones that go to the ACC (“Aaack” is right!). No siree. Those “fans” are a bunch of latte swilling, pink-shirt wearing, start-at-10-leave-at-4-no-way-I-would-ever-give-you-a-loan-lets-raise-service-charges-again, sissy wannabes, quietly waving their stupid little Maple Leaf flags (get them off your frigging car, for the love of Stanley!), bemoaning the vast New York conspiracy working against their “rightful” claim to the Cup, and insisting that “Darcy Tucker really is a swell guy.” Tucker is so ugly his poppa had to tie a pork chop around his neck, just so the dog would play with him. Lets just say this; the day after Darcy Tucker was born, his mother's obstetrician went on a drinking binge of such magnitude that they still sing songs about it in certain Southeast Asian tribes. Ultimately, it cost him his job, his wife, his sanity and the lives of three baby chipmunks. He was last seen alive, teetering on the edge of a very high building, a bottle of whiskey in one hand, an "adult relationship enhancing device" in the other, and muttering the words "miracle of birth, my a**." Sure every single player in the NHL wants to don that Blue and White sweater. Sure they do. And what’s up with the sweater? I have one, but that’s just because I use it to scare small children on Halloween. I have a pair of Leaf underwear too, but that seems oddly appropriate, given that I eat a lot chili. Some people like to mock the Leafs because they haven’t won a Cup since 1967, but even that repulses me. I wasn’t alive then, and the thought of it still makes me sick. Any coincidence the Quebec Separation movement kicked into high gear during the late 60’s? I hope they never win another Cup. Ever. Cause the day the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup is the day I smear dirt on my face, tear up all my clothes and start practicing my “get your paws off me, you d*amn, dirt ape!” routine. Surely a Leaf victory can only mean the collapse of society as we know it? Anarchy? Chaos? The total disappearance of all that is good and right with the world? <shudder> Don’t get me started on the Bruins. Entertaining little bit there BC ... I see where your coming from....but really, I think down deep inside, you really like them! THF |
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or else they'd be really scary.
. The fact that they were in the Clarence Campbell conference didn't help build up the rivalry either. We played them once, maybe twice a year.
- Why you ask? Well, first I married into the tickets. But more importantly, this way I get to go to all of the Habs games when they visit Toronto, and then I fleece stupid Toronto fans who'll pay a premium for my seats.
Hmmmmmm, well, had you asked me that question 10 or 12 years ago, I would certainly have vigorously said Boston. Sure, the East/West conference configuration makes for a WAY more interesting playoff race, but the old divisions, especially the Adams created great rivalries that, IMO, could never be recreated. Playing so many games against teams in your division and then having to face them in the playoffs year after year after year ... well, it just made sparks fly even days before a BRUINS/HABS game. 