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Post by MC Habber on Apr 16, 2004 19:48:30 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2004 21:10:08 GMT -5
That says something about Lou Lamoriello's judgment of character. He obviously was taking a hard line for a good reason. This kid's judgment leaves something to be desired, even if some of the facts are exagerrated.
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2004 21:54:23 GMT -5
I don't think this reflects badly on the league. Danton is just a bad character. The NBA has taken its share of hits lately too.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 17, 2004 16:16:06 GMT -5
Unaware of updated details. Had to modofy this post.
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The complaint said Danton feared the acquaintance, who is not named, would talk to St. Louis Blues management and ruin Danton's career, but also said that Danton was afraid the "acquaintance was going to leave him. Danton did not want to allow the acquaintance to leave him, therefore decided to have him murdered.''
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Another relationship gone bad, with dire consequences. Plus ça change....
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Post by Skilly on Apr 17, 2004 17:10:22 GMT -5
"didn't want the acquaintance to leave me" .... and all the press say that the acquaintance is a "he". The articles all talk about alcohol, (drugs?), and promiscuity. So I'll be the first to ask the question. Is Danton a homosexual or a bisexual?
Seems, to me anyway, like he was worried about something more than being an alcoholic and a guy who sleeps around to order a hit on someone.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 17, 2004 17:14:07 GMT -5
Is Danton a homosexual or a bisexual? It doesn't matter. |
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Post by Lyle_Odelein on Apr 18, 2004 2:56:58 GMT -5
This is one of the more troubling stories I've heard about a hockey player probably dating back to Fleury's incidents. The thing about Danton is I like him as a hockey player. He's got that Barnaby/Nash firestarter thing going on that I always find endearing. I guess, hockey is the least important thing going on for Danton right now. I hope that this situation is cleared up before it gets any messier (although I'm not too optimistic of that actually happening).
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 18, 2004 9:08:46 GMT -5
It does if Danton's sexual orientation plays a role in this matter: Danton's male lover: I'm going to leave you, and I'm going to tell the press, your team, and the management of the St. Louis Blues that you are gay. Danton: I'm not going to let you leave me, and ruin my career by outing me in a profession that won't tolerate a gay teammate. No team would take me knowing that I'm gay. I have to make sure you never tell anyone. We are speculating wildly here, without knowing any facts, of course, but its certainly a plausible scenario. |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Apr 18, 2004 9:49:36 GMT -5
It does if Danton's sexual orientation plays a role in this matter: Danton's male lover: I'm going to leave you, and I'm going to tell the press, your team, and the management of the St. Louis Blues that you are gay. Danton: I'm not going to let you leave me, and ruin my career by outing me in a profession that won't tolerate a gay teammate. No team would take me knowing that I'm gay. I have to make sure you never tell anyone. We are speculating wildly here, without knowing any facts, of course, but its certainly a plausible scenario. My bad. You are right. In a generally homophobic society, especially within its even more intolerant subcultures, it does matter. A lot. See how far we've come? I meant "It doesn't matter" in a tired-of-human-stupidity-and-intolerance way. |
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 18, 2004 10:07:44 GMT -5
Aye, I agree. A "it shouldn't matter" would have been a more appropriate comment, but "shouldn'ts" are usually followed by the ever qualifying "but". As in "it shouldn't matter, but..."
But then again, if we really and truly did live in a society where it didn't matter, then my entirely speculative scenario would never occur.
Curse everything.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 18, 2004 10:09:31 GMT -5
It does if Danton's sexual orientation plays a role in this matter: Danton's male lover: I'm going to leave you, and I'm going to tell the press, your team, and the management of the St. Louis Blues that you are gay. Danton: I'm not going to let you leave me, and ruin my career by outing me in a profession that won't tolerate a gay teammate. No team would take me knowing that I'm gay. I have to make sure you never tell anyone. We are speculating wildly here, without knowing any facts, of course, but its certainly a plausible scenario. Excellent, plausible theory. Perhaps we should call you Bad Co...lumbo.  |
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Post by Madhabfan on Apr 19, 2004 15:36:33 GMT -5
We are speculating wildly here, without knowing any facts, of course, but its certainly a plausible scenario. Just this morning I was talking with a couple of my buddies at school, and I couldn't believe it but they had both played hockey with and against Mike Danton's younger brother. They told me a couple of stories about his family which I won't post but what I will say for sure is, Mike Danton is a homosexual, and I'm 100% positive about that. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 19, 2004 17:16:07 GMT -5
I saw an TV interview with his father. His da pputs the blame squarely on his agent - David Frost.
I've heard a few things about this guy from the media. It's ususally about how he has a strange hold on his clients.
Anybody else hear anything?
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Post by franko on Apr 19, 2004 17:38:24 GMT -5
Probably saw the same interview.
Not much good said about Frost.
But personal responsibility has to come into play somewhere . . . or else we'll have another "I was stressed" on our hands.
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Post by FormerLurker on Apr 26, 2004 8:29:01 GMT -5
Here's an article from the Globe and Mail which alleges that the male acquaintance that Danton wanted killed was none other than his agent, David Frost: It's a very disturbing article, and suggests that Frost has been controlling Danton's every move since he coached him as an eleven year old.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 26, 2004 9:07:36 GMT -5
Here's an article from the Globe and Mail which alleges that the male acquaintance that Danton wanted killed was none other than his agent, David Frost: It's a very disturbing article, and suggests that Frost has been controlling Danton's every move since he coached him as an eleven year old. If Mike Danton can prove, through depostions from the other players under Frost's control, that it was years of emotional abuse from Frost that drove him to such an extreme, then he will be exhonerated. I've known a guy like Frost....dangerous. But Danton apparently had no chance at the age of 11. It's mind-control....these men will try to turn you against everyone in your life, so that you're totally dependent on them alone. My theory: Danton met this girl, Wolfmeyer, who either saw Frost in action, or heard Danton's stories about him. She advised Danton to get out from under his grip. Frost, in his predictable coercive manner feeling his control waning said, "If you don't drop this girl, I'm going to tell the Blues that you're an alcoholic and a sex-addict." Danton felt trapped, cornered....and voila....the plot. |
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Post by Pam on May 6, 2004 18:26:59 GMT -5
I saw the interview with Danton's dad too. Frost sounds like a controlling egomaniac. 3 years ago when Danton's brother was 14, Frost was trying to get control of him too. There is never a good excuse to put out a contract to kill on anyone, but some people can't stand up under years of that kind of stuff. It sounds as if Frost has had control of Danton since he was young. No wonder Mike cracked. It wasn't the right thing to do, but after hearing that interview, even if what Mike's dad said was true, it makes the whole incident understandable. I think Danton is screwed up in the head from the years of being under Frost's control. I hope he can get his head straightened out. He needs to server punishment for doing what he did. He can't be allowed to get away with breaking the law, but if he really is messed up in the head, I hope they don't go too hard on him and get him the proper help so he can straighten out his mind and his life. The whole thing is very sad
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Post by MC Habber on May 8, 2004 20:34:02 GMT -5
Danton thanks agent, slams family"Danton, who was once known as Mike Jefferson, targeted his family, outlining alleged physical and emotional abuses he suffered while growing up."
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Post by CentreHice on May 9, 2004 4:06:10 GMT -5
I'm going to wait for more details to come out...but IMO something smells very fishy...or should I say frosty.
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Post by CentreHice on May 18, 2004 12:02:59 GMT -5
Well-researched article by Christie Blatchford from Monday's Globe and Mail. www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040516.xblatchford0517/BNStory/Sports/Just heard a taped radio interview with Frost (interviewed by Marek and Watters), and he was absolutely trashing Danton's father, Steve Jefferson. Drug abuser, alcoholic, abusive, etc. I find this passage very interesting: On that squad (the Toronto Young Nationals bantam team) were Mr. Danton, Sheldon Keefe (the Tampa Bay Lightning player who, with his younger brother Adam, is still represented by Mr. Frost) and Joey Goodenow, the son of NHLPA boss Bob Goodenow.
The Keefe parents, like Mr. Frost's mother-in-law, refused to discuss Mr. Frost with The Globe, but it is well known that their relationships with their children have suffered, or been severed altogether, since he became involved in their lives.Wonder how he became a certified player/agent by the NHLPA, eh Mr. Goodenow? (according to the article he was very involved with this team) Even Frost's wife is estranged from her family, the Toronto-area hockey-prominent McCauley family in Toronto. Her brother, Wes McCauley, is an NHL referee. Can't wait to hear the Christie Blatchford interview on MOJO at 12:30 on Tuesday........ |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 16, 2004 15:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by blaise on Jul 16, 2004 15:41:09 GMT -5
I can't feel much sympathy for Danton.
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