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Post by Strummerman on Oct 6, 2004 23:47:56 GMT -5
What do you get when you get owners that dont know nada about hockey? an NHL lockout? Im kinda hoping when Kerry becomes President he will force the owners back to negotiating since Kerry loves to play hockey and he will be attending Bruins and Capitals games I can assure you  |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Oct 7, 2004 11:39:52 GMT -5
If Kerry is elected, I'm certain that ensuring an NHL season will be his first order of business...   |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 7, 2004 12:45:43 GMT -5
If Kerry is elected, I'm certain that ensuring an NHL season will be his first order of business... I understand it is on the agenda for the next debate! |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 7, 2004 17:11:48 GMT -5
If Kerry is elected, I'm certain that ensuring an NHL season will be his first order of business... Well I can tell from your anal response your not really a hockey fan. Thank god Kerry has played hockey and will intervene. If you were a historian you would know that Ronald Reagan's first act as president was to fire the air traffic controllers. Kerry knows symbolism and being a left wing radical he will kick those right wing republicans owners asses right out of the rink  |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 7, 2004 17:14:04 GMT -5
I understand it is on the agenda for the next debate! Yes it is Kerry will tax those fat cat slobs known as mutimillionaires owners and they will come to the negotiating table with the players so they can continue stealing the money in nefarious ways or claim their losses against their other businesses because of the increased taxes. If you knew reality you would have figured this out |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2004 18:10:40 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the owners and players will listen to what the president has to say about the situation. I don't think Paul Martin at this time would have said anything either.
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 7, 2004 22:21:57 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the owners and players will listen to what the president has to say about the situation. I don't think Paul Martin at this time would have said anything either. It seems you have forgotten recent history and the intervention of congress in baseball |
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Post by TheCaper on Oct 7, 2004 23:07:46 GMT -5
The owners have a $300 million war chest. Under The Patriot Act, the mention of a war chest gives the CIA the right to do anything they want. Apparently, latest CIA intelligence suggests that Bettman has WMDs. Both Presidential candidates will be hot on the topic for the remainder of the campaign. It’s a simple matter of time until the U.S. military rescues our national pastime.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2004 8:35:09 GMT -5
It seems you have forgotten recent history and the intervention of congress in baseball I don't appreciate your sarcasm. |
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Post by Montrealer on Oct 8, 2004 8:57:33 GMT -5
Does anyone else think that Strummerman has watched too many Oliver Stone movies?  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Oct 8, 2004 11:36:07 GMT -5
Yes it is Kerrywill tax those fat cat slobs known as mutimillionaires owners and they will come to the negotiating table with the players so they can continue stealing the money in nefarious ways or claim their losses against their other businesses because of the increased taxes. If you knew reality you would have figured this out Perhaps he will jail the owners and players until the strike is settled. Putting them in cells adjacent to Martha Stewart and making Lynndie England their guard should bring those fat capitalists to their senses! Just one more reason not to vote for Kerry as if I needed any more! |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Oct 8, 2004 11:44:02 GMT -5
It seems you have forgotten recent history and the intervention of congress in baseball Stummerman, I understand we're all edgy with this no more hockey thing but your replies will have to be a little less personnal. Thanks for that. For the rest of you, try using less sarcasm and roll eyes in your replies to a guy's opinion/idea, you'll get cooler response. Thanks for that. Case close. Now about the main subject, Though I don't think we'll see direct intervention form the President, I do agree that at some point some political pressure will happen. Still, IMO, the logical next step in this will be for the owners to declare an impasse and impose a whole new CBA. Following this action a strike will logicly occure. At that point the pendulum will have swung far enough in both direction for both parties to sit and try to find common ground. The sooner the owers move on to impose their CBA, the sooner we'll see hockey. I do not believe there can be a negociated solution before the owners show their might. PLayers are convinced they'll fold, just like last time. |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:14:03 GMT -5
The owners have a $300 million war chest. Under The Patriot Act, the mention of a war chest gives the CIA the right to do anything they want. Apparently, latest CIA intelligence suggests that Bettman has WMDs. Both Presidential candidates will be hot on the topic for the remainder of the campaign. It’s a simple matter of time until the U.S. military rescues our national pastime. Are you trying to be funny? Anyways could Saddam get the parties to reach a CBA?? |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:14:44 GMT -5
I don't appreciate your sarcasm. There was no sarcasm in my reply. COngress did get involved in the baseball labor dispute |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:15:51 GMT -5
Does anyone else think that Strummerman has watched too many Oliver Stone movies? I have a hard time figuring out what my previous posts had anything to do with a conspiracy. It seems you have watched too many swiftboat veterans for truth commercials |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:18:04 GMT -5
Perhaps he will jail the owners and players until the strike is settled. Putting them in cells adjacent to Martha Stewart and making Lynndie England their guard should bring those fat capitalists to their senses! Just one more reason not to vote for Kerry as if I needed any more! Kerry will not jail the players who are obviously in the right. As for the fatcat owners after their taxes are hiked, they will have to eat ketchup with their haute cuisine and have their eurotrash wives eat it as well |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:18:32 GMT -5
Stummerman, I understand we're all edgy with this no more hockey thing but your replies will have to be a little less personnal. Thanks for that. For the rest of you, try using less sarcasm and roll eyes in your replies to a guy's opinion/idea, you'll get cooler response. Thanks for that. Case close. Now about the main subject, Though I don't think we'll see direct intervention form the President, I do agree that at some point some political pressure will happen. Still, IMO, the logical next step in this will be for the owners to declare an impasse and impose a whole new CBA. Following this action a strike will logicly occure. At that point the pendulum will have swung far enough in both direction for both parties to sit and try to find common ground. The sooner the owers move on to impose their CBA, the sooner we'll see hockey. I do not believe there can be a negociated solution before the owners show their might. PLayers are convinced they'll fold, just like last time. Strummerman typo |
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Post by Montrealer on Oct 8, 2004 14:48:31 GMT -5
It seems you have watched too many swiftboat veterans for truth commercials My political ideology lies to the left of the U.S. Democratic Party. |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 14:57:11 GMT -5
My political ideology lies to the left of the U.S. Democratic Party. Hey that was a dirty trick. You conveniently edited my quote. I have been taken out of context. Therefore no comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2004 16:08:19 GMT -5
There was no sarcasm in my reply. COngress did get involved in the baseball labor dispute The tone you used however was still not appreciated. |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 16:46:09 GMT -5
The tone you used however was still not appreciated. Typed words from a keyboard have no tone therefore you must be imagining things like W |
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Post by PTH on Oct 8, 2004 17:58:56 GMT -5
Does anyone else think that Strummerman has watched too many Oliver Stone movies? All I know is that if there were any kind of real hockey talk going on this thread wouldn't have lasted long at all.... |
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Post by jkr on Oct 8, 2004 18:08:23 GMT -5
Congress intervened with baseball because that sport really matters to Americans. Hockey is most likely number four or five to most American sports fans behind baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR & college sports and is viewed as a largely Canadian pastime.
I can't see U.S. politicians spending much time worrying about the NHL.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 8, 2004 20:56:50 GMT -5
Heck, Bowling, Ice Capades, and reruns of "the Wheel of Fortune" have a higher profile in the US, than hockey. That's why the demise of 8 or more US teams would not give me a moments lack of sleep.
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 8, 2004 23:59:35 GMT -5
All I know is that if there were any kind of real hockey talk going on this thread wouldn't have lasted long at all.... Yes that is all you know (and almost as much as W) |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 9, 2004 0:02:20 GMT -5
Congress intervened with baseball because that sport really matters to Americans. Hockey is most likely number four or five to most American sports fans behind baseball, football, basketball, NASCAR & college sports and is viewed as a largely Canadian pastime. I can't see U.S. politicians spending much time worrying about the NHL. Congress intervened cause W was the prez and if you knew his bio you would know he once was part owner of the Texas Rangers- which goes back to my theory kerry is a hockey nut plays it and I doubt any prez has ever played it before him and he will intercede for the good of the game and anyways he doesnt really have to intercede just raise the taxes on those glutton owners and they will make a v turn to the negotiation table- |
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 9, 2004 0:04:12 GMT -5
Heck, Bowling, Ice Capades, and reruns of "the Wheel of Fortune" have a higher profile in the US, than hockey. That's why the demise of 8 or more US teams would not give me a moments lack of sleep. now we are talking culture and the lack of a good marketing plan in the USA- and there I blame Bettman- and those fat assed owners who make life suck |
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Post by franko on Oct 9, 2004 9:29:40 GMT -5
Congress intervened cause W was the prez and if you knew his bio you would know he once was part owner of the Texas Rangers- which goes back to my theory kerry is a hockey nut plays it and I doubt any prez has ever played it before him and he will intercede for the good of the game and anyways he doesnt really have to intercede just raise the taxes on those glutton owners and they will make a v turn to the negotiation table- 1. Congress is not under the thumb of the president. 2. Since when do politicians do anything for the good of anyone except their own self-serving interests? Hockey will be very low on Kerry's radar . . . haven't heard him mention anything in the debates! 3. Good idea about raising taxes: fat-cat owners claim to be losing money; upping their taxes is supposed to help them make money (which is what a business man wants to do)? I think you've missed it a bit here. But as PTH said, we're only wasting time debating here because there's nothing better to discuss. Hey, even Blaise and Beaux-Eaux have toned down their discussions (guys: this is not an invitation to return to the debates). |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Oct 9, 2004 11:42:15 GMT -5
Degustation not discussion is the order of the day.
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Post by Strummerman on Oct 9, 2004 16:30:54 GMT -5
1. Congress is not under the thumb of the president. 2. Since when do politicians do anything for the good of anyone except their own self-serving interests? Hockey will be very low on Kerry's radar . . . haven't heard him mention anything in the debates! 3. Good idea about raising taxes: fat-cat owners claim to be losing money; upping their taxes is supposed to help them make money (which is what a business man wants to do)? I think you've missed it a bit here. But as PTH said, we're only wasting time debating here because there's nothing better to discuss. Hey, even Blaise and Beaux-Eaux have toned down their discussions (guys: this is not an invitation to return to the debates). 1) Congress is controlled by the Republican party both Senate and House of Representatives. Even if it wasn't controlled by W's party, the president sets the agenda for policy and Congress acts upon it (Us Politics 101) 2) The only reason W and Congress got involved in the baseball strike was cause they are fans and in their own self interests they didnt want baseball going down the tubes. Hey I guess when Reagan was campaigning he must have mentioned the first thing of any note he would do was fire the air traffic controllers. Duh don't think so. Let me explain to you naive political people out there politicians do not say what they are going to do during the campaign. 3) What fat cat owners claim and what is reality is like night and day. Tell the people who got shafted out of their Enron pension how Ken Lay and his gang claimed how rosy Enron was. Now back to what I said since you distorted it completely, most of the fat cats have other businesses where they make loads of money. Take Gillett with his meat packing business or the folks that own Walmart or Disney etc. I guess they cannot claim their hockey losses if in fact they are losing money against their business profits in other industries(tax 101). |
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