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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 6, 2005 16:09:48 GMT -5
The cap isn't based on per-year salary, it's based on average salary over a the entire contract. So his cap number is the same next year as this year... EDIT: However, maybe it works for an options. That would be pretty sweet. I wonder how that works for guys who are traded. For example, say you have a guy with a 5 year contract, at 1, 1, 1, 2, and 10. Average is $3 million per year, but if you trade the guy in the fifth year, does the team that acquired him only pay $3 million to the cap, even though they are paying $10 million in salary? Excellent point. That way the rich teams can pay way over $37M and still be under the cap. "And I thought I thought of everything.........." quote from Gary Buttman. Great post BC |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 12, 2005 21:23:48 GMT -5
...with they way the Pens are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Gainey was able to pull a surprise deal for Gonchar in a very near future...
Zednik for Gonchar ?
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Post by PTH on Dec 12, 2005 22:35:05 GMT -5
...with they way the Pens are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Gainey was able to pull a surprise deal for Gonchar in a very near future... Zednik for Gonchar ? Didn't Gonchar sign a long-term deal this summer? Somehow, I expect we'll see BG try and pull the same trick as with Kovalev - get a rental, try him out and kick the tires, and try and sign him if things work out. Getting a retread who failed on his current team is, to me, a good way of getting into trouble; no one would ever take the re-tread from us if he didn't work out. It's Audette all over again, only with a larger contract and a cap. |
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Post by jkr on Dec 13, 2005 6:43:30 GMT -5
...with they way the Pens are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Gainey was able to pull a surprise deal for Gonchar in a very near future... Zednik for Gonchar ? Didn't Gonchar sign a long-term deal this summer? Somehow, I expect we'll see BG try and pull the same trick as with Kovalev - get a rental, try him out and kick the tires, and try and sign him if things work out. Getting a retread who failed on his current team is, to me, a good way of getting into trouble; no one would ever take the re-tread from us if he didn't work out. It's Audette all over again, only with a larger contract and a cap. Yes, Gonchar signed for 3-4 years |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 13, 2005 8:00:07 GMT -5
...with they way the Pens are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Gainey was able to pull a surprise deal for Gonchar in a very near future... Zednik for Gonchar ? Didn't Gonchar sign a long-term deal this summer? Somehow, I expect we'll see BG try and pull the same trick as with Kovalev - get a rental, try him out and kick the tires, and try and sign him if things work out. Getting a retread who failed on his current team is, to me, a good way of getting into trouble; no one would ever take the re-tread from us if he didn't work out. It's Audette all over again, only with a larger contract and a cap. Gonchar is younger than Audette was and with a minimum of luck he won't get an almost career ending injury once we get him... I was watching the Pens/Wings game yesterday and Pittsburgh really reminded me of the old Rangers. I think Gonchar is a really good player who's not in the right setup. A top flight PP qback that plays on the left, I couldn't ask for anything more. I think he would fit right in. |
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 13, 2005 8:18:30 GMT -5
I don't think we could fit Gonchar under the cap, even if we were to trade Zednik for him. He signed a 5 year, $25 million deal with Pittsburgh:
Gonchar, at 31 the youngest of the big-boy class of unrestricted free-agent defensemen available, is scheduled to earn $3.5 million this season and $4.5 million in 2006-07 as Penguins general manager Craig Patrick accelerated the five-year, $25 million deal signed yesterday. Gonchar, who had played for Washington and Boston, is set to make $5.5 million, $6 million and $5.5 million in the final three years.
If we want a pure power play guy, how about Brian Berard? He signed a 2 year, $2 million deal, which is a little expensive for a power play specialist, but if you only want to use him in that role I think he would be effective. Much more so than Mark Streit anyways, and the Blue Jackets would probably give him up for a mid-round pick...
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 13, 2005 8:28:42 GMT -5
I don't think we could fit Gonchar under the cap, even if we were to trade Zednik for him. He signed a 5 year, $25 million deal with Pittsburgh: Gonchar, at 31 the youngest of the big-boy class of unrestricted free-agent defensemen available, is scheduled to earn $3.5 million this season and $4.5 million in 2006-07 as Penguins general manager Craig Patrick accelerated the five-year, $25 million deal signed yesterday. Gonchar, who had played for Washington and Boston, is set to make $5.5 million, $6 million and $5.5 million in the final three years.If we want a pure power play guy, how about Brian Berard? He signed a 2 year, $2 million deal, which is a little expensive for a power play specialist, but if you only want to use him in that role I think he would be effective. Much more so than Mark Streit anyways, and the Blue Jackets would probably give him up for a mid-round pick... Ouch! I didn't realized he was that expensive. That'll teach me to do my homework... ...oh well... |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 13, 2005 12:54:02 GMT -5
Renting a 31 year old Gonchar for one year makes sense. Paying a 36 year old Gonchar $$5.5 million in 2010 makes no sense.
Is he the guy we want to hang our future on?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2005 14:09:52 GMT -5
...with they way the Pens are going, I wouldn't be surprised if Gainey was able to pull a surprise deal for Gonchar in a very near future... Zednik for Gonchar ? Didn't Gonchar sign a long-term deal this summer? Somehow, I expect we'll see BG try and pull the same trick as with Kovalev - get a rental, try him out and kick the tires, and try and sign him if things work out. Getting a retread who failed on his current team is, to me, a good way of getting into trouble; no one would ever take the re-tread from us if he didn't work out. It's Audette all over again, only with a larger contract and a cap. Audette was playing very well until his arm nearly got sliced off. He had a great playoff run, too. It looked like a great trade at the time. |
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