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Post by franko on Jun 8, 2007 21:13:30 GMT -5
Interviewed today, Briere said that Buffalo hadn't approached him with a contract offer yet.
Suggestions are that Drury might be [over]paid in the 6.5-7M mark.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 8, 2007 21:18:34 GMT -5
Interviewed today, Briere said that Buffalo hadn't approached him with a contract offer yet. Suggestions are that Drury might be [over]paid in the 6.5-7M mark. Briere said he wants to remain in Buffalo as well. So, let's say Drury gets the money that's being speculated. That would make Briere worth what outside of Buffalo? What was this lockout for again? Cheers. |
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Post by Polarice on Jun 12, 2007 10:23:38 GMT -5
Just a cut and paste from Spector's rumour page:
SPECTOR'S MAILBAG.
"Claude" sends in the following on Daniel Briere: "heard tonight (Monday) on rds Gaston Therrien was this week end at the golf tournament of Alain Brisson good friend of Briere and he asked if briere receive an offer from the sabre and Briere answer was that he as not receive an offer or a telephone call from the sabre at the end of the tournament Briere was given a shirt of the Montreal Canadien with the number 48".
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 12, 2007 10:53:38 GMT -5
Landing Briere might determine whether Bonk and Johnson receive offers. I think Bonk will probably be picked up by another team but I'm hoping Johnson is offered a new contract. I think he'll be an excellent mentor for some of the youngsters coming up over the next few years.
Cheers.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 12, 2007 14:39:05 GMT -5
Landing Briere might determine whether Bonk and Johnson receive offers. I think Bonk will probably be picked up by another team but I'm hoping Johnson is offered a new contract. I think he'll be an excellent mentor for some of the youngsters coming up over the next few years. Cheers. yes i really liked johnson's all-around game as well, we need a vet that shows up every game and works hard in both ends. another crazy summer awaits doesn't it. the biggest question mark is still on the blue line though, and i wonder what gainey has in mind. |
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Post by franko on Jun 12, 2007 17:03:53 GMT -5
Interview on Ottawa Team1200 today (from Philly):
Drury to SJ, which means that Briere will be overpaid to stay in Buffalo.
Take it for what its worth.
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Post by HFTO on Jun 13, 2007 7:05:56 GMT -5
If Drury goes to SJ start the Marleau talk to Montreal thread.
A first rd and a prospect?
hfto
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 13, 2007 7:15:53 GMT -5
Why would San Jose want Drury when they have Marleau and Thornton? The Sharks do not need a centermen and they have a lot of very good players that are at or very near free agency status, tying money on Drury at this point would be very odd IMO. Marleau is younger, cheaper, has been more productive for a longer period than Drury and is the captain of the Sharks. I would not understand why they'd want to sign Drury and move Marleau.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 13, 2007 7:23:51 GMT -5
Why would San Jose want Drury when they have Marleau and Thornton? The Sharks do not need a centermen and they have a lot of very good players that are at or very near free agency status, tying money on Drury at this point would be very odd IMO. Marleau is younger, cheaper, has been more productive for a longer period than Drury and is the captain of the Sharks. I would not understand why they'd want to sign Drury and move Marleau. Perhaps they're looking for a 2 way center? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 13, 2007 7:51:25 GMT -5
Why would San Jose want Drury when they have Marleau and Thornton? The Sharks do not need a centermen and they have a lot of very good players that are at or very near free agency status, tying money on Drury at this point would be very odd IMO. Marleau is younger, cheaper, has been more productive for a longer period than Drury and is the captain of the Sharks. I would not understand why they'd want to sign Drury and move Marleau. Unless they have plans of moving Marleau maybe? Could be that all he might need is a change of scenery. Good Canadian kid that might be worth, oh I don't know ... a 1st rounder plus a prospect? Dunno ... but then again ... Cheers. Late edit: I should have read your post first, HFTO. Just a repitition of your thought. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 13, 2007 8:20:29 GMT -5
Unless they have plans of moving Marleau maybe? . Maybe. Gainey helped out Wilson last year by sending Rivet over there, despite receiving other calls. According to Burke Gainey had been working on a deal with Wilson for quite some time.... Maybe there was more to it than just a Rivet/Gorges swap. Maybe there is a Marleau deal to be done but Wilson couldn't do it last year because he was going into the playoffs and needed all his soldiers. Maybe.... IF Wilson is open to deal Marleau I am almost 100% certain that Gainey would have the first shot at it. Price would be steep though. IMO a first and a prospect doesn't get you there (assuming you don't mean Price as the prospect). IMO Ryder or Higgins would have to go the other way along with your prospect. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 13, 2007 9:00:38 GMT -5
Unless they have plans of moving Marleau maybe? . Maybe. Gainey helped out Wilson last year by sending Rivet over there, despite receiving other calls. According to Burke Gainey had been working on a deal with Wilson for quite some time.... Maybe there was more to it than just a Rivet/Gorges swap. Maybe there is a Marleau deal to be done but Wilson couldn't do it last year because he was going into the playoffs and needed all his soldiers. Maybe.... IF Wilson is open to deal Marleau I am almost 100% certain that Gainey would have the first shot at it. Price would be steep though. IMO a first and a prospect doesn't get you there (assuming you don't mean Price as the prospect). IMO Ryder or Higgins would have to go the other way along with your prospect. Good conclusions, Doc. I was going to start a Marleau thread on the main board until I read HFTO's post above. I think this Drury-to-SJ might have some weight to it. The knock on Marleau was that he didn't show up for the playoffs. Meanwhile Drury was Buffalo's top all-around soldier, to use your phrase. But, there are a lot of "ifs" in this scenario just the same. If my source is right, Briere has been on Gainey's radar since shortly after the regular season. But, if Drury to SJ is factual, it means exactly what Franko's suggests in that Buffalo will overpay Briere to stay there and Briere does want to stay (apparently). So, if Drury signs in SJ and Briere does stay in Buffalo, then the odd man out might be Marleau. And if Wilson and Gainey have a good rapport as you suggest, it might take some haggling, but Marleau could be had. Ryder or Higgins in addition to the package? Wonder if they'd be interested in the rights to Perezhogin and/or Gabrovski? Would like to keep as much NA talent as I can. Cheers. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 13, 2007 9:26:45 GMT -5
If my source is right, Briere has been on Gainey's radar since shortly after the regular season. Your source has to be right. Briere is precisely what the team needs at every levels. On the rink he's a warrior with a never-say-die attitude that keeps coming back for more. Briere, Koivu, Lapierre, Higgins, Bégin, Komisarek would be the making of a team absolutely unpleasant to play against. Outside the rink he's the perfect ambassador: a gentlemen, a family men, a down-to-earth guy that smiles, shakes hands and always has time for the fans. A complete class act in the Lafleur mold. The opposite of the typical sports star with the alternative life style and the self centered attitude. Briere said he'd like to stay in Bufallo and that absolutely fits with his personnality but you'd have to think that he's got to be at least a little bit miffed that he didn't even get a call from Reigher yet... On one hand you have the Sabres that takes him for granted and on the other you have the HABs ready to unroll the red carpet. It just might have an impact. |
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Post by HFTO on Jun 13, 2007 13:44:48 GMT -5
Ryder and S.J.'s original pick for Marleau signed and sealed?.
Ryder with Thorton would work as would Marleau and Kovalev(a bigger question mark but atleast there would be potential)
I don't trade Higgins in the long run he brings more to the table for the Habs.The only problem is S.J. is looking for cap relief to sign Drury and Ryder still would cost them 3 million.Picks and prospects maybe a better solution a Kotstitsyn type etc. may better entice them.
Go Bob
HFTO
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 28, 2007 7:08:16 GMT -5
According to RDS, while the talks have finally started between the Briere clan and the Sabres, they are still far apart. Briere is seeking a 6yr deal while the Sabres would like it shorter.
...I have a feeling it will get done.
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Post by clear observer on Jun 28, 2007 8:57:53 GMT -5
Outside the rink he's the perfect ambassador: a gentlemen, a family men, a down-to-earth guy that smiles, shakes hands and always has time for the fans. A complete class act in the Lafleur mold. The opposite of the typical sports star with the alternative life style and the self centered attitude. While I agree with you regarding Briere, and as perhaps the biggest Lafleur fan whoever lived, I'd like to remind you that Lafleur was: - HEAVY into boozing (almost cost him his life), it DID cost him the upper-half of his left ear and a brand-new Cadillac
- A popular figure among Montreal's chic night-club scene
- a HEAVY smoker smoking upwards of 3 packs-a-day while regularly smoking BETWEEN PERIODS of a game!
- VERY opinionated and outspoken; often putting his foot in his mouth (even to this day)
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is.  CO |
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Post by Marvin on Jun 28, 2007 9:23:44 GMT -5
...and to think a couple of years ago Phoenix put him on waivers and ANY TEAM could have had him for next to nothing.
Marv
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2007 9:35:45 GMT -5
...and to think a couple of years ago Phoenix put him on waivers and ANY TEAM could have had him for next to nothing. Marv Pierre MaGuire likes point that out from time to time, Marv. And he always uses Montreal for his example. "... this guy was deemed too small to be effective by the Montreal Canadiens ..." He likes that example for some reason. Doesn't matter to him the amount of teams who passed on him ... just Montreal. Oh well ... we all have our roles to play I guess ... |
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Post by Gogie on Jun 28, 2007 9:50:30 GMT -5
Outside the rink he's the perfect ambassador: a gentlemen, a family men, a down-to-earth guy that smiles, shakes hands and always has time for the fans. A complete class act in the Lafleur mold. The opposite of the typical sports star with the alternative life style and the self centered attitude. While I agree with you regarding Briere, and as perhaps the biggest Lafleur fan whoever lived, I'd like to remind you that Lafleur was: - HEAVY into boozing (almost cost him his life), it DID cost him the upper-half of his left ear and a brand-new Cadillac
- A popular figure among Montreal's chic night-club scene
- a HEAVY smoker smoking upwards of 3 packs-a-day while regularly smoking BETWEEN PERIODS of a game!
- VERY opinionated and outspoken; often putting his foot in his mouth (even to this day)
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO CO - I'll take you up on who was the bigger Lafleur fan. ;D I recall back when the Habs drafted Lafleur I put together a scrap book (before Lafleur had even laced up his skates as a Hab) that I titled something along the lines of the end of one era (with a photo of Beliveau) and the beginning of another (with a photo of Lafleur). It was packed full of pictures of Lafleur and I think I even penned a poem in it. I wish I still had it, but alas it was misplaced years ago and disappeared. I still remember the first time I saw Lafleur in person. I had taken a trek to Montreal with four or five buddies from university and attended a game a the forum. After the game we were wandering around the forum when we ran into Lafleur at one of the exits just sitting on a railing chatting with one of the rink employees. One of my buddies walked up to Guy, said "great game, Guy" and shook his hand. I was so in awe I couldn't bring myself to shake his hand, although I did mumble something about how he played a great game! Finally, I used to be a Jacques Lemaire admirer, but when he took over the coaching ranks for the Habs and effectively drove Lafleur into retirement, I lost all respect for him (Lemaire). It didn't matter how much of a prima donna or "free spirit" Lafleur might have been, he was still Guy Lafleur and in my mind he was still the heart and soul of the Habs. To see him retire prematurely, and then to see him come back and play for the Nordiques of all teams really tore me up. It's something I'll never be able to forgive Lemaire for (and I hope to never see him coach the Habs again - they have enough of a stifling defensive system as it is). |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 28, 2007 10:12:17 GMT -5
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO I won't win the Guy Lafleur worship club. My favorite Hab was Yvon Lambert and I have no idea why. |
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Post by Marvin on Jun 28, 2007 10:22:29 GMT -5
My favourite Lafleur story: Guy's rookie year when he was still a relative unknown. I was riding the metro back home from a game with my dad. Lo and behold who was sitting in the metro a few seats away from us but Guy. No one knew him or recognized him except me, a wide-eyed 13yr old. I walked over to him with my game program and got him to sign an autograph for me. I never forgot that moment. In a couple of years, Guy would become so big in the province and the country.
Marv
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Post by habmeister on Jun 28, 2007 10:24:48 GMT -5
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO I won't win the Guy Lafleur worship club. My favorite Hab was Yvon Lambert and I have no idea why. yvon lambert, that's hilarious!!! ;D |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2007 10:32:18 GMT -5
Dis - I'll take you up on who was the bigger Lafleur fan. ;D I recall back when the Habs drafted Lafleur I put together a scrap book (before Lafleur had even laced up his skates as a Hab) that I titled something along the lines of the end of one era (with a photo of Beliveau) and the beginning of another (with a photo of Lafleur). It was packed full of pictures of Lafleur and I think I even penned a poem in it. I wish I still had it, but alas it was misplaced years ago and disappeared. I still remember the first time I saw Lafleur in person. I had taken a trek to Montreal with four or five buddies from university and attended a game a the forum. After the game we were wandering around the forum when we ran into Lafleur at one of the exits just sitting on a railing chatting with one of the rink employees. One of my buddies walked up to Guy, said "great game, Guy" and shook his hand. I was so in awe I couldn't bring myself to shake his hand, although I did mumble something about how he played a great game! Finally, I used to be a Jacques Lemaire admirer, but when he took over the coaching ranks for the Habs and effectively drove Lafleur into retirement, I lost all respect for him (Lemaire). It didn't matter how much of a prima donna or "free spirit" Lafleur might have been, he was still Guy Lafleur and in my mind he was still the heart and soul of the Habs. To see him retire prematurely, and then to see him come back and play for the Nordiques of all teams really tore me up. It's something I'll never be able to forgive Lemaire for (and I hope to never see him coach the Habs again - they have enough of a stifling defensive system as it is). I think you were replying to CO, but I've got to jump in here, Gogie. I was never as much a Lafleur fan as I was a Pete Mahovlich, J.C. Tremblay or Jacques Lemaire fan, gogie. I became an instant "Little M" fan during the '72 Summit Series. He scored one of the nicest goals I've ever seen in game 2. To this day few match it IMHO. I used to like J.C. Tremblay mainly because he a class act. There were tough guys, cheap-shot artists but the gentleman on the ice was J.C. Brought me down a bit when I heard he died. I never knew this story about Lemaire until Doc pointed it out the other day. That brings me down a bit too because, like you, Coco was always one of the players I admired. He was one of the best two-way centres ever to play the game and I think the only one who matched him was Brian Trottier. I grew up always wanting a slapshot like Coco's. And he was all hustle all the time. But, like I was saying, this story about he and Lafleur brings me down a bit. I think it might account why I heard Dick Irvin say many moons back, "... and Guy Lafleur blasts the Canadiens again this week ... what's new ..." Sounds like there was a lot of bitterness between the two and when I saw that retirement conference I honestly didn't think Lafleur was finished. In hindsight, I think the tears were more out of resignation than they were about retirement. Son of a gun. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 28, 2007 10:52:09 GMT -5
Unconfirmed, but according to Buffalonews.com the Sabres have started negotiations with Briere. If this is the offer cited below I can't see him leaving Buffalo. Report: Sabres send offer to Briere
FROM NEWS WIRE SERVICES
Updated: 06/28/07 11:07 AM
An unconfirmed television report Wednesday night said that the Buffalo Sabres have begun negotiations with co-captains Daniel Briere and Chris Drury, both of whom are due to become unrestricted free agents at 12:01 p.m. on Sunday.
The Sabres made Briere an offer late Wednesday evening, a Buffalo TV station reported. It’s not clear what the offer is for a player seeking a minimum four-year deal, and expected to command a $6 million-a-year salary.
Briere finished 10th in the NHL with a career-high 95 points (32 goals, 63 assists).
Briere’s agent Pat Brisson declined comment.
Drury’s agent, Mark Witkin, has also declined to discuss the status of talks involving his client. Drury, who scored a careerhigh 69 points (37 goals, 32 assists), is projected to double the $3.15 million he made last season.
Dainius Zubrus, meanwhile, expects to become a free agent this weekend, a move that would end the veteran forward’s brief stint with Buffalo.
“That’s certainly the direction it looks like it’s headed,” his agent, Jerrold Colton, told the Associated Press on Wednesday.
With the NHL’s free agency period starting at noon Sunday, Colton declined to say whether he’s had any talks with the Sabres.
“Certainly, these things can get done if both sides are motivated,” Colton said. “But at this point, we’re anticipating that Dainius will hit the market.”
Zubrus made $1.85 million in the final year of his contract last season. Buffalo acquired him in a deal with Washington at the trade deadline in February. A 10-year veteran, he had four goals and eight points in 19 games with the Sabres.
Zubrus added eight assists in 15 playoff games, but missed Buffalo’s final postseason game — a 3-2 overtime loss to Ottawa in Game Five of the Eastern Conference finals — because of a knee injury.
“He loved being with Buffalo and is still open to that possibility,” Colton said. “But we’re very confident that there will be a lot of interest in him out there.” • • •The Link |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jun 28, 2007 12:05:01 GMT -5
While I agree with you regarding Briere, and as perhaps the biggest Lafleur fan whoever lived, I'd like to remind you that Lafleur was: - HEAVY into boozing (almost cost him his life), it DID cost him the upper-half of his left ear and a brand-new Cadillac
- A popular figure among Montreal's chic night-club scene
- a HEAVY smoker smoking upwards of 3 packs-a-day while regularly smoking BETWEEN PERIODS of a game!
- VERY opinionated and outspoken; often putting his foot in his mouth (even to this day)
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO Guy was very seventies  At the time though the HABS organization was almost a Cosa Nostra in Monteal to the sense that they could do what they wanted and how they wanted it and nobody would say a word. Especially not the media. The HABS PR department back then were "cleaners", making sure every stories were covered up. Players could cheat on their wives with groupies, booze all they want and thrash hotel rooms, it was never a story... How things have changed at that level. Now they fart against the wind and must hold press conferences to explain why they were so inconsiderate. Flower was a great embassador to the sense that he had a lot of charisma and was highly dedicated to the fans and despite his Semi-God status was always ready to sign autographs, shake hands, visit kids, etc... His smooth operator demeanor was perfect for the time too. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 28, 2007 12:56:21 GMT -5
While I agree with you regarding Briere, and as perhaps the biggest Lafleur fan whoever lived, I'd like to remind you that Lafleur was: - HEAVY into boozing (almost cost him his life), it DID cost him the upper-half of his left ear and a brand-new Cadillac
- A popular figure among Montreal's chic night-club scene
- a HEAVY smoker smoking upwards of 3 packs-a-day while regularly smoking BETWEEN PERIODS of a game!
- VERY opinionated and outspoken; often putting his foot in his mouth (even to this day)
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO Now they fart against the wind and must hold press conferences to explain why they were so inconsiderate. LOL I know you are pretty ticked right now but I am glad to see you have not lost your sense of humor. |
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Post by Gogie on Jun 28, 2007 13:00:03 GMT -5
Dis - I'll take you up on who was the bigger Lafleur fan. ;D I recall back when the Habs drafted Lafleur I put together a scrap book (before Lafleur had even laced up his skates as a Hab) that I titled something along the lines of the end of one era (with a photo of Beliveau) and the beginning of another (with a photo of Lafleur). It was packed full of pictures of Lafleur and I think I even penned a poem in it. I wish I still had it, but alas it was misplaced years ago and disappeared. I still remember the first time I saw Lafleur in person. I had taken a trek to Montreal with four or five buddies from university and attended a game a the forum. After the game we were wandering around the forum when we ran into Lafleur at one of the exits just sitting on a railing chatting with one of the rink employees. One of my buddies walked up to Guy, said "great game, Guy" and shook his hand. I was so in awe I couldn't bring myself to shake his hand, although I did mumble something about how he played a great game! Finally, I used to be a Jacques Lemaire admirer, but when he took over the coaching ranks for the Habs and effectively drove Lafleur into retirement, I lost all respect for him (Lemaire). It didn't matter how much of a prima donna or "free spirit" Lafleur might have been, he was still Guy Lafleur and in my mind he was still the heart and soul of the Habs. To see him retire prematurely, and then to see him come back and play for the Nordiques of all teams really tore me up. It's something I'll never be able to forgive Lemaire for (and I hope to never see him coach the Habs again - they have enough of a stifling defensive system as it is). I think you were replying to CO, but I've got to jump in here, Gogie..... As usual, you are correct. I get all you old guys mixed up ;D (or maybe I get mixed up cause I'm an old guy?). I've corrected my original post. |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 28, 2007 13:09:09 GMT -5
Guy was my boyhood hero, he could do no wrong, but he was hardly an exemplary figure....by all accounts, Daniel Briere is. CO I won't win the Guy Lafleur worship club. My favorite Hab was Yvon Lambert and I have no idea why. I was never a Guy Lafleur fan ... don't know why. Just wasn't. I remember back in 1984, I told my friend (an Oiler fan who took pride in rubbing it in) that Montreal would never win until they got rid of Guy. I started watching the Canadiens earnestly, around 1982-83. My favourite team was ...... Minnesota actually  . I only started watching hockey around 1981. Minnesota in the finals, one player won my admiration. But in 1983 I was given a great gift. My favourite player got traded to Montreal and I switched too. I was the biggest Bobby Smith fan in the world. |
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Post by Marvin on Jun 28, 2007 14:26:26 GMT -5
I started watching the Canadiens earnestly, around 1982-83. My favourite team was ...... Minnesota actually . I only started watching hockey around 1981. Minnesota in the finals, one player won my admiration. But in 1983 I was given a great gift. My favourite player got traded to Montreal and I switched too. I was the biggest Bobby Smith fan in the world. Now isn't that interesting? In 1980 I used to have to North Stars jerseys: one with "B Smith" on the back, and one with "S Payne." Marv |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jun 28, 2007 15:43:44 GMT -5
I won't win the Guy Lafleur worship club. My favorite Hab was Yvon Lambert and I have no idea why. I was never a Guy Lafleur fan ... don't know why. Just wasn't. I remember back in 1984, I told my friend (an Oiler fan who took pride in rubbing it in) that Montreal would never win until they got rid of Guy. I started watching the Canadiens earnestly, around 1982-83. My favourite team was ...... Minnesota actually . I only started watching hockey around 1981. Minnesota in the finals, one player won my admiration. But in 1983 I was given a great gift. My favourite player got traded to Montreal and I switched too. I was the biggest Bobby Smith fan in the world. OMG. Don't get me started. The 1980 playoff loss to Minnesota still haunts me to this day. I was a child of the 70s and never experienced the sour taste of playoff defeat until that series. I was depressed for a solid weak after that Game 7 loss - at the Forum no less. Bobby Smith, Steve Payne, Craig Hartsburg, Al MacAdam, Gilles Meloche. I remember that series like it was yesterday. I liked Bobby Smith when he was a Hab but I could never truly forgive him for the pain he inflicted. |
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. I only started watching hockey around 1981. Minnesota in the finals, one player won my admiration. But in 1983 I was given a great gift. My favourite player got traded to Montreal and I switched too. I was the biggest Bobby Smith fan in the world.