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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2007 1:04:59 GMT -5
Briere would be a pretty darn good addition. Even though he's not big, having Briere followed by Koivu would be a one-two punch not many teams could match. I think you'd see our top 4 wingers suddenly having very good years offensively. Same thing if we signed Gomez, but Briere would be more exciting and a lot more enjoyable for the fan base. There will be a lot of teams jostling for those two and Drury, though. I sure hope we get Briere, as it would make the rest of the summer a whole lot more enjoyable...and longer.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 30, 2007 1:05:41 GMT -5
i have to continue to believe that more players than dandy are willing to come home to play for the once glorious canadiens before their career is done. i can't believe that a kid like pk subban is more excited to wear the bleu blanc et rouge than briere. BUT, bob has trouble signing ryder, higgins and komi to more than 2 year deals, why would he offer briere such a long term deal at that high of a price? i don't buy it. He was in the running until the last minute last year with Elias, he was willing to offer him a pretty lenght contract and a big one, but the devils added one more year and he lost him. Because we end up signing him or because he goes to Philly? eheh either/or people choked that we didn't get him, or the same people complainin that we paid him too much for too long. bob can't win on this one, unless, unless he convinces briere to sign for about half a million less than the highest bidder, to go to montreal. but that would be just brilliant.  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 30, 2007 9:11:14 GMT -5
Briere would be a pretty darn good addition. Even though he's not big, having Briere followed by Koivu would be a one-two punch not many teams could match. I think you'd see our top 4 wingers suddenly having very good years offensively. Same thing if we signed Gomez, but Briere would be more exciting and a lot more enjoyable for the fan base. There will be a lot of teams jostling for those two and Drury, though. I sure hope we get Briere, as it would make the rest of the summer a whole lot more enjoyable...and longer. Even if Briere does sign, I don't think he can do it himself. Another tape-to-tape puck-moving defenceman would do the trick as well. Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 30, 2007 12:11:28 GMT -5
I agree, Dis. Briere isn't the whole answer to us being a true contending team, but he's a really good start. Adding Hannan, Stuart or Preissing would really make my day. I also read that Buffalo hadn't yet made an offer to Numminen. He wasn't concerned and handled it very professionally, saying, it was probably just the way Buffalo handled things. I doubt very much he'll be without a job next year, and I sure think he'd help us out as a role model for the younger defensemen. That would be cloud 9, Briere, and one of the three d-men mentioned along with Numminen. That's a lot of good hands to be dealt, though.
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Post by habmeister on Jun 30, 2007 17:50:34 GMT -5
I agree, Dis. Briere isn't the whole answer to us being a true contending team, but he's a really good start. Adding Hannan, Stuart or Preissing would really make my day. I also read that Buffalo hadn't yet made an offer to Numminen. He wasn't concerned and handled it very professionally, saying, it was probably just the way Buffalo handled things. I doubt very much he'll be without a job next year, and I sure think he'd help us out as a role model for the younger defensemen. That would be cloud 9, Briere, and one of the three d-men mentioned along with Numminen. That's a lot of good hands to be dealt, though. yikes 17, you got me all excited for sunday now! i know i've said that i don't want briere, or something to that effect. what i'm saying is not for $7mil for 7 seasons, he hasn't been a star not more than 2 years. the new rules made him a star, but if the clutch and grab slowly sneaks back in, as it did in the 2nd half of the season, then he could go back to being a clear cut 2nd tier player making way too much money. but what timmins, gainey and carbo are building, (carbo isn't a builder as much as a foreman) are a fast, smart, two way team that can skate like the wind, ala buffalo with anaheim sandpaper. pk subban is the fastest player in the organization, sorry i had to add that in. yeah maybe briere is the perfect compiment to saku's finnish style. but briere has never had the kind of pressure of playing in front of the montreal faithful, or captaining a team to the cup (close but no cigar) or playing for team canada. can he handle it? does he become the captain, i'm sure saku keeps the C, but the whole city will be in love with briere. does saku get envious? or maybe he takes a lot of the heat off of saku, because if the team is faltering, it will be: briere isn't backchecking hard enough, we're too small we shoulda gotten ryan smyth. the thing that is the most scary, is that every single star we've had: roy, chelios, desjardins, theodore, leclair, turgeon, recchi...the list goes on, they've all played here and we either drove them away, traded them away, or they had 20% less points with montreal, making big dollars. briere would be the first to come here and he would be paid to be in the top 20 in scoring, if not top 15. could he do it? or maybe carey price takes the job away from christobal, gainey and carbo are just so blown away by how good he is now, and price is in the running for the calder. it still comes down to our defence, it is woefully thin and weak, delaying signing yemelin was a mistake this off-season, they should have been all over closing that deal and working the phone until it was signed and sealed and he was on a plane here for a press conference. sorry strayed off topic there, anyway i think briere is good at $6 million for 3 years max. |
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Post by Roggy on Jul 1, 2007 12:12:20 GMT -5
Bob McKenzie just reported that Montreal tabled at 6 year - 7 million dollar offer for Briere.
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Post by habmeister on Jul 1, 2007 12:20:23 GMT -5
Bob McKenzie just reported that Montreal tabled at 6 year - 7 million dollar offer for Briere. well i'm praying is he accepts he's the first star we've brought here that lives up to the hype. |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Jul 1, 2007 13:38:47 GMT -5
Bob McKenzie just reported that Montreal tabled at 6 year - 7 million dollar offer for Briere. That's a very fair and reasonable offer by Gainey. If Briere rejects that offer and signs elsewhere, then we know that he only used Montreal to drive up his price. |
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Post by jimmyjazz on Jul 1, 2007 13:42:48 GMT -5
Bob McKenzie just reported that Montreal tabled at 6 year - 7 million dollar offer for Briere. That's a very fair and reasonable offer by Gainey. If Briere rejects that offer and signs elsewhere, then we know that he only used Montreal to drive up his price. Exactly what I think he's doing right now, it seems it's between us and Philly. He's doing a Martin Lapointe on us I think. |
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Post by roke on Jul 1, 2007 13:53:16 GMT -5
That's a very fair and reasonable offer by Gainey. If Briere rejects that offer and signs elsewhere, then we know that he only used Montreal to drive up his price. Exactly what I think he's doing right now I think, it seems it's between us and Philly. He's doing a Martin Lapointe on us I think. I was just going to say that, looks like we'll be disapointed again. |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 1, 2007 14:15:59 GMT -5
Overpaying, but to have a respectable team, it's necessary. Especially when you see Brett McLean get nearly $2MM a year. Some teams are just foolish, or really, really desperate.
BTW, I bet by the same time next year, we'll have about the same number of UFA's as this year, not the cornucopia that's predicted. San Jose started the ball rolling by signing Thornton, to a very reasonable salary (hmmmm, about the same that the Habs offered Briere). Most teams will try to lock up their stars long before July 1/08.
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Post by Canadien Errant on Jul 1, 2007 14:31:35 GMT -5
And we had a year lost in lock out because of overpayment... Are they gonna learn someday ?
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Post by roke on Jul 1, 2007 14:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by clear observer on Jul 1, 2007 14:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by cigarviper on Jul 1, 2007 15:22:20 GMT -5
Personally, I'm a little relieved.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 1, 2007 15:59:46 GMT -5
Personally, I'm a little relieved. At least we know for sure now. However, as someone said in another thread, the media crucifixion has yet to begin. And it will. Cheers. |
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Post by habmeister on Jul 1, 2007 17:09:15 GMT -5
Personally, I'm a little relieved. At least we know for sure now. However, as someone said in another thread, the media crucifixion has yet to begin. And it will. Cheers. you really think they're cricify briere?? |
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Post by cigarviper on Jul 1, 2007 17:50:13 GMT -5
At least we know for sure now. However, as someone said in another thread, the media crucifixion has yet to begin. And it will. Cheers. you really think they're cricify briere?? They can't fault Gainey for his attempt. It was even a little beyond reason IMO. Meh, the players can play where they want. I would like to see some blueline help added in a significant way. As for Briere, I'm sure some will boo him next time he's at the phonebooth in his new fancy dancy Philly jersey.  |
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Post by franko on Jul 1, 2007 18:12:26 GMT -5
And we had a year lost in lock out because of overpayment... Are they gonna learn someday ? Don't count on it. |
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Post by habmeister on Jul 1, 2007 19:07:04 GMT -5
you really think they're cricify briere?? They can't fault Gainey for his attempt. It was even a little beyond reason IMO. Meh, the players can play where they want. I would like to see some blueline help added in a significant way. As for Briere, I'm sure some will boo him next time he's at the phonebooth in his new fancy dancy Philly jersey. i've always hated the flyers, and now i hate their newest addition. i had a feeling he was gutless, i was right. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 1, 2007 20:44:51 GMT -5
Some teams are just foolish, or really, really desperate. ...others are not desperate enough and act like fat cats siting on the lunch they don't have to hunt for. Bell center is full. They ice a mediocre team filled with silly internal wars, they ignore local fans, drive up the ticket prices and don't even feel pressured enough to beat the competition when it comes to ice a better product... As HA once said, it almost like the Ballard days in TO... Their time will come. They'll heavily pay for their current arrogance. Right now I'm seen as the Old Yeller that don't know anything and just whine on the side lines but I've seen this pattern before in Montreal over and over. I've seen it with the Alouettes who were once the darlings of the local fan base and who ended up disapearing in total indiference. I've seen it with the Expos who were once able to sit 35000 in the Olympic Stadium on a wednesday night only to be sold without anyone lifting a finger. I've seen it with the Manic... And I've seen it with the Montreal Canadiens who, after the Houle era had major problems selling season's tickets in the Molson Center and were literally given to George Gillett... until the Theodore, Ribeiro, Ryder, Audette, Juneau, Quintal, Gilmour got the team back on track and the fans back in the stand despite no being many people's BPA. I can see the Canadiens on their knees before long. They got the local fans disgruntled with a non-playoff year, they insulted them with a ticket price raise, they broke their hearts with the no-Esposito draft and now they've missed out the Briere thing... Look for that nice sell-out streak to come to an end and for those RDS ratings to go down... |
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2007 21:06:50 GMT -5
They can't fault Gainey for his attempt. It was even a little beyond reason IMO. Meh, the players can play where they want. I would like to see some blueline help added in a significant way. As for Briere, I'm sure some will boo him next time he's at the phonebooth in his new fancy dancy Philly jersey. i've always hated the flyers, and now i hate their newest addition. i had a feeling he was gutless, i was right. I'm disappointed too but I wouldn't go as far as calling him gutless. He was offered an 8 year term with 10 million up front. Pretty hard to turn down, especially when he said that Philly was his 1st choice |
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Post by Andrew on Jul 2, 2007 16:16:04 GMT -5
they broke their hearts with the no-Esposito draft and now they've missed out the Briere thing... Look for that nice sell-out streak to come to an end and for those RDS ratings to go down... I can't see how you can fault them for missing out on Briere. He never had any intention of coming to Montreal. If reports are true, Gainey made a more than reasonable effort and came up short. Maybe an offer of 8-9M / year would have done the trick, but that's too much for Briere IMO. |
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Post by Bugsy on Aug 18, 2007 1:27:03 GMT -5
Just thought I'd post here real quick.....
Earlier this year, around March, I had some inside info regarding Briere. At that point what Briere was saying, he would never sign with Montreal, no matter what! I had no further contact after that, which is of course when everything changed. Back then he was considering LA....
But of course everyone knows how close he was to being signed by the Habs. The sticking point came back to his original reasons for not wanting to play in Montreal and of course the chance to play with Gagne.
So basically, I'm no hockey insider, I just sorta know one NHL player and he almost joined the Habs afterall..........
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 27, 2007 10:38:54 GMT -5
Just thought I'd post here real quick..... Earlier this year, around March, I had some inside info regarding Briere. At that point what Briere was saying, he would never sign with Montreal, no matter what! I had no further contact after that, which is of course when everything changed. Back then he was considering LA.... But of course everyone knows how close he was to being signed by the Habs. The sticking point came back to his original reasons for not wanting to play in Montreal and of course the chance to play with Gagne. So basically, I'm no hockey insider, I just sorta know one NHL player and he almost joined the Habs afterall.......... Thanks for passing on the scoop bugsy. |
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Post by HabSolute on Sept 7, 2007 9:31:23 GMT -5
More controversy again on the Briere saga. Mathias Brunet from LaPresse is throwing another bone to the Gainey bashers..... Apparently the deciding factor for Briere was that Gainey couldn't garanty him he would be on the first line with Higgins and Ryder....and the Flyers told him he could play where he wants and with who he wants.... Quite the sh#t disturber this Brunet www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070907/CPSPORTS01/709070568/1006/CPSPORTS01Not too sure what to make of this; On one hand, if he was going to be our best player he would have played on the first line anyway. I don't really like a player demanding who he wants to play with before he even spend one minute on the ice with his team.... Play like you can, and the rest will come. Or maybe it's just a case of Brunet stretching the facts to make his story more sensationnal  ? In any case, Briere is in Philly now, Let it go Mathias, let it go....  |
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Post by habmeister on Sept 7, 2007 10:48:43 GMT -5
uhhhhhhhh wouldn't the top line be the line briere is on? does this idiot brunet take us for well idiots?
if it is true that briere "demanded" such a thing, then good riddance.
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Post by halihab on Sept 7, 2007 10:49:22 GMT -5
More controversy again on the Briere saga. Mathias Brunet from LaPresse is throwing another bone to the Gainey bashers..... Apparently the deciding factor for Briere was that Gainey couldn't garanty him he would be on the first line with Higgins and Ryder....and the Flyers told him he could play where he wants and with who he wants.... Quite the sh#t disturber this Brunet www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070907/CPSPORTS01/709070568/1006/CPSPORTS01Not too sure what to make of this; On one hand, if he was going to be our best player he would have played on the first line anyway. I don't really like a player demanding who he wants to play with before he even spend one minute on the ice with his team.... Play like you can, and the rest will come. Or maybe it's just a case of Brunet stretching the facts to make his story more sensationnal ? In any case, Briere is in Philly now, Let it go Mathias, let it go.... LaPresse ? I'd believe Eklund before these clowns. |
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Post by halihab on Sept 7, 2007 10:54:56 GMT -5
uhhhhhhhh wouldn't the top line be the line briere is on? does this idiot brunet take us for well idiots? if it is true that briere "demanded" such a thing, then good riddance. That's my exact feelings. What's with this #1,2, and 3 lines etc. If the second line is playing better than Koivu's line, Who's #1 line ? The lines are a,b,c,d. Line d could have been Montreal's best line many nights last year. Play your hardest on whatever line the coach puts you on. This article IMO makes Briere look worse than Gainey. |
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Post by insomnius on Sept 7, 2007 11:02:53 GMT -5
This article IMO makes Briere look worse than Gainey. And makes Brunet look worse than both of them. I have trouble accepting this as truth because at the end of the season Higgins was playing with Plekanec and Kostitsyn - not Koivu and Ryder as the article states. They would not have had to break up the line of Higgins, Koivu Ryder as it was not set in stone in the first place... Much ado about nothing - ok not nothing - it is the Habs after all... |
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