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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 5, 2003 12:50:34 GMT -5
I've seen this at fanhome and HF now..5 years/40 million is the number
apparently they have called a 4:30 press conference Anaheim time...
stay tuned folks to see if this is true
edit: well 2 weeks later it's now true.
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Post by piston on Jul 5, 2003 13:23:00 GMT -5
I don't know about the press conference, but I think a deal with the Ducks is all but done. Sergei really wanted the Kings, but we decided he had just too much baggage to bring him aboard.
Phil
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Post by Patty Roy on Jul 5, 2003 13:35:01 GMT -5
Anyone else think that the Ducks are better off with Fedorov than Kariya?
I'm a huge Fedorov fan and i think this is a great signing for the Ducks. Sure that's alot of coin, but i get the feeling that Fedorov is going to be one of those players that is going to be productive well into his mid 30's.
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Post by Habsolution on Jul 5, 2003 13:46:48 GMT -5
The ducks needed a center more than a winger and Federov is a better player than Kariya IMO. He's also a better fit with such a defensive team. He'll still be able to rack up the points while playing a sound defensive game. The ducks have got a pretty good 1-2-3 punch at center in Federov-Rucchin-Nieds. All in all the ducks will be a better team but IMO I don't think they'll be able to repeat.
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Post by larek on Jul 5, 2003 14:08:47 GMT -5
They will not repeat a final berth for the cup,that for sure especially with the AVS loading up with Kariya and Selanne,i will say Anaheim doesnt return to the finals for many years!
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Post by Carv on Jul 5, 2003 14:43:09 GMT -5
Chistov could do very well with Fedorov. They both end in 'ov'. That spells chemistry, no?  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Jul 5, 2003 15:02:22 GMT -5
Federov better split his pay with Kariya because if Paul didn't sign with Colorado there is no way Federov is signed by the Almighty Bucks!  |
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Post by piston on Jul 5, 2003 15:08:11 GMT -5
Federov better split his pay with Kariya because if Paul didn't sign with Colorado there is no way Federov is signed by the Almighty Bucks! That is true in a couple of ways. PK not signing certainly freed up some money, but, more importantly, the Ducks now have a PR nightmare. Just when you finally built some cedibility with a Stanley Cup run, you let your marquis player get away for nothing and have him dis you in the press. PK is a jerk for what he did, and now the Ducks have no choice than to sign Sergei. They are his second choice, and Anaheim is lucky the Kings passed. BTW, Fedorov's agent has done a brilliant job of using the media and fan Boards to play the two teams off against each other. The Kings are going to catch massive problems from our fans if and when this deal is announced at the Pond. Phil |
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Post by Spanky85 on Jul 5, 2003 15:28:30 GMT -5
If Federov were to sign with a team, it would be pretty big news. Isn't anyone here wondering why theres been no news whatsoever on any of the major sports sites since the supposed news conference is in 3 hours?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2003 15:34:38 GMT -5
They will not repeat a final berth for the cup,that for sure especially with the AVS loading up with Kariya and Selanne |
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Post by rocky on Jul 5, 2003 15:51:44 GMT -5
i have a few pals who are Wings fans, they all love Sergei, they all hate the habs....can u say awwwwwwwww, ;D
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 5, 2003 16:14:48 GMT -5
The ducks needed a center more than a winger and Federov is a better player than Kariya IMO. He's also a better fit with such a defensive team. He'll still be able to rack up the points while playing a sound defensive game. The ducks have got a pretty good 1-2-3 punch at center in Federov-Rucchin-Nieds. All in all the ducks will be a better team but IMO I don't think they'll be able to repeat. Yeah I have to agree with that..if they get Fedorov(who I also think is better than the Kariya of the last few years) they basically fill a huge part of the offence lost by not keeping Oates and Kariya |
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Post by larek on Jul 5, 2003 16:17:13 GMT -5
i dont think the question is who the Avs have as a goaltender,the question should be who will the Avs have for goaltending?
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Post by mic on Jul 5, 2003 17:06:47 GMT -5
i dont think the question is who the Avs have as a goaltender,the question should be who will the Avs have for goaltending? Lacroix won't panick. If he finds an upgrade over Aebischer, he'll try to get him. However, I don't believe that he'll go for a "just over average" goalkeeper. So, I don't think that he'll try to land a Potvin. And I don't think that he'll take Detroit's "garbage" (les restes de Detroit) with CuJo. In my opinion, the only candidates are Khabibulin, Luongo, Théo, perhaps Burke (I don't say that their teams are willing to trade them). If he can't land an elite one, I can see him giving Aebischer a shot. Aebischer's postition is similar to Turco's one last year. You just can't find a replacement to Roy, so why not giving a try to your own goalies ? Anyway, he has enough depth to make a significant trade. Mic |
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Post by larek on Jul 5, 2003 17:52:43 GMT -5
BINGO!
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Post by Habsolution on Jul 5, 2003 18:53:18 GMT -5
i dont think the question is who the Avs have as a goaltender,the question should be who will the Avs have for goaltending? I've got a couple of favourites Cujo : the key here is not the fact that the wings won't ever want to give the last missing piece to the puzzle to their most hated rival. The key is Cujo's no-trade clause and the 16 M $US they have in the nets. The wings are desperate but the avs and blues aren't. If Cujo goes on record saying he wants to be a part of the avs and that the avs want him. Short of giving him a permanent seat in pressbox and having this cancer follow the team all year long there's nothing the wings can do but trade him where he wants to go. Holland really put himself in a bad position here by signing Hasek. Other possible suitors would be the blues but don't expect any weight for cujo swap because Cujo's value is next to 0 IMO. Any GM willing to offer more than 4th rounder is stupid or bid against himself. Fernandez or Roloson : They are my 2 favourite options. With the recent signing of recent AHL playoffs MVP Johan Holmqvist to a 1 way deal awarding him NHL money and considering the fact that the wild have to protect him(I think) in the next waiver draft then they absolutely have to trade one of their 3 goaltenders unless they want to lose one for nothing. Lacroix might be very interesting with offers of Ballard+picks+nederost for fernandez or Roloson. But it doesn't really matter after all because Colorado got enough firepower to start the season with an Aebischer+Sauve tandem and do very well. Of course the playoffs are a different story but they still have a lot of options left and they can always swing a deal later at the trade deadline depending on new developments. All in all the avs are in no hurry to make a deal and unless they get the offer they want they're going to start the season with Sauve+Aebischer. I think Lacroix first priority right now would be to complete his defensive squad. He has all the season to look for a goaltender. But knowing Lacroix he's most assuredly listening to all offers about a goalie and a deal might happen any time between tomorrow and the trade deadline. |
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Post by ethan on Jul 5, 2003 19:47:28 GMT -5
That is true in a couple of ways. PK not signing certainly freed up some money, but, more importantly, the Ducks now have a PR nightmare. Just when you finally built some cedibility with a Stanley Cup run, you let your marquis player get away for nothing and have him dis you in the press. PK is a jerk for what he did, and now the Ducks have no choice than to sign Sergei. They are his second choice, and Anaheim is lucky the Kings passed. BTW, Fedorov's agent has done a brilliant job of using the media and fan Boards to play the two teams off against each other. The Kings are going to catch massive problems from our fans if and when this deal is announced at the Pond. Phil I can't really see how Paul Kariya can get a bad rap on this one... The ducks decided not to pick up the option and let him become an unrestricted free agent. After changing his style of play to accomodate his team's lack of talent, can you really blame him for using his right as an URFA (that the ducks made him... their choice) to sign with his team of choice? I think that it's great to see a professional athlete sign for a chance to win, and a chance to play in a system that suits his style of play rather than to the highest bidder. (yes, I know that the cinderella ducks went to game 7 of the cup this year, but my money is on them being this year's version of Carolina, and obviously Paul's placing the same bet). |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 5, 2003 20:01:53 GMT -5
Lacroix might be very interesting with offers of Ballard+picks+nederost for fernandez or Roloson. That is a pretty steep price to pay for Fernandez/Roloson, not exactly proven playoff goalies... |
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Post by Habsolution on Jul 5, 2003 20:25:18 GMT -5
That is a pretty steep price to pay for Fernandez/Roloson, not exactly proven playoff goalies... Agreed I put names out there just to show it would be easy for the avs to get a starter without touching their top 6 and defense. I wouldn't give that much neither ... But still the wild would probably ask for a lot |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 5, 2003 21:09:11 GMT -5
btw why did the Wild sign Holmqvist to a 1 year 1 way deal ? was he a minor league UFA or something?  |
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Post by Habsolution on Jul 5, 2003 22:40:03 GMT -5
btw why did the Wild sign Holmqvist to a 1 year 1 way deal ? was he a minor league UFA or something? Well I guess he was in the same situation than Garon ? |
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 6, 2003 7:49:02 GMT -5
Agents suddenly become verbose when it is in the best interests of their clients to break the barriers of secrecy in contract negotiations. This past week, Fedorov's agent, Pat Brisson, unexpectedly turned confidante to pesky reporters who telephoned his office. "Sergei will not return to the Red Wings," Brisson told The News' Ted Kulfan. "It's nothing against the fans, nothing against the organization. It's an opportunity for a new start ... "He said he felt a sense of freedom. He wanted to see what other possibilities were out there. It was just time to move on." Fedorov, of course, did not speak such words himself. He is, supposedly, off on holiday in Spain, where by coincidence it is the time of the running of the bulls in Pamplona. - www.detnews.com/2003/wings/0307/06/d02-210407.htm |
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 19, 2003 9:46:03 GMT -5
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jul 19, 2003 10:23:54 GMT -5
Apparently its a done deal:
Former Red Wing gets five years, at least $40 million
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ESPN.com news services
The Anaheim Mighty Ducks, hoping to replace the departed Paul Kariya, have reached agreement with free agent center Sergei Fedorov on a five-year contract worth in excess of $40 million, ESPN has learned.
Fedorov, 33, became an unrestricted free agent July 1. He spent his first 13 seasons in the NHL with the Detroit Red Wings. Fedorov has 400 goals and 554 assists in his career.
Fedorov won the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player in 1994 and the Selke Trophy as the league's best defensive forward in 1994 and 1996.
Detroit won the Stanley Cup three times while Fedorov was a player -- in 1997, 1998 and 2002.
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Post by madhabfan on Jul 19, 2003 11:05:17 GMT -5
Apparently its a done deal: Former Red Wing gets five years, at least $40 million -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services The Anaheim Mighty Ducks, hoping to replace the departed Paul Kariya, have reached agreement with free agent center Sergei Fedorov on a five-year contract worth in excess of $40 million, ESPN has learned. Fedorov, 33, became an unrestricted free agent July 1. He spent his first 13 seasons in the NHL with the Detroit Red Wings. Fedorov has 400 goals and 554 assists in his career. Fedorov won the Hart Trophy as the league's most valuable player in 1994 and the Selke Trophy as the league's best defensive forward in 1994 and 1996. Detroit won the Stanley Cup three times while Fedorov was a player -- in 1997, 1998 and 2002. I think that I am going to wait for a source that ends in ".ca" to confirm this deal before I believe the rumor to be true. BTW- Is anyone else having trouble getting on sportsnet's website? All I get is their logo and a blank screen. EDIT- Oops, it appears that Sportsnet is reporting it now... as well as TSN. Nevermind my post. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 19, 2003 11:17:17 GMT -5
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Post by MPLABBE on Jul 19, 2003 12:10:09 GMT -5
so the Ducks cut 13 million by letting go of Oates and Kariya and added 2 players who will make around 11-12 million per and have arguably improved their team. Good job Murray!
Fedorov lands the place where I thought he would in the first place.
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Post by HFTO on Jul 19, 2003 13:27:51 GMT -5
Pretty decent trade off don't you think,the Ducks look even better.
HFTO
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Post by Habsolution on Jul 19, 2003 13:43:50 GMT -5
so the Ducks cut 13 million by letting go of Oates and Kariya and added 2 players who will make around 11-12 million per and have arguably improved their team. Good job Murray! Fedorov lands the place where I thought he would in the first place. The ducks are indeed richer and better IMO But let's not give too much credit to Murray. His plan was to first sign Kariya and Selanne. He was just lucky they decided to go elsewhere. His back up plan was really good though  |
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Post by piston on Jul 19, 2003 13:53:55 GMT -5
This is such a joke. Fedorov is 34, has a drinking problem, wants to come to SoCal to be closer to Anna and wants to play in a city where there is less pressure to perform on a nightly basis. For this he gets $40 mm for 5 years. He will be 39 in the final year of his contract, older if there is a work stoppage that wipes out a season. Yeah, I could be accused of jealousy, but I know for a fact there were certain people in the Kings organization that wanted Fedorov and Taylor flat out held his ground. Once source tells me DT even threatened to resign over this (and take the Toronto job). This is all about Disney wanting to sell the team and needing to fill seats after PK ditched the Pond. In my opinion, this makes it more difficult to find a buyer.
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