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Post by jkr on Jul 17, 2007 13:06:39 GMT -5
Hasn't Eklund been saying Zherdev to Mtl for a year now? Yeesh, this guy doesn't quit... yes he has & I'm tired of it. nhlnumbers.com says he has 2 years left at 2.5 each year. Plus he's listed as a winger & this team needs a centre. I watched the draft on TSN & it is clear that Doug Mclean can't stand him. Iguess it has a lot to do with his holdout. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 13:19:15 GMT -5
I watched the draft on TSN & it is clear that Doug Mclean can't stand him. Iguess it has a lot to do with his holdout. Can't stand Zherdev or can't stand Eklund? |
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Post by jkr on Jul 17, 2007 16:26:43 GMT -5
I watched the draft on TSN & it is clear that Doug Mclean can't stand him. Iguess it has a lot to do with his holdout. Can't stand Zherdev or can't stand Eklund? Zherdev. Mclean had nothing good to say about him. |
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Post by habmeister on Jul 17, 2007 21:02:15 GMT -5
we may wish samsonov was back, zherdev is another kovalev, except he never turns it on, all the talent without the drive to win. stick with canadians and americans.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 18, 2007 8:12:03 GMT -5
Can't stand Zherdev or can't stand Eklund? Zherdev. Mclean had nothing good to say about him. Mclean is no longer their GM though. Maybe the new admin feels different about Zherdev? ...The one guy that would really interest me on the BJ depth chart is Derrick Brassard. |
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Post by Polarice on Jul 18, 2007 8:19:24 GMT -5
Zherdev. Mclean had nothing good to say about him. Mclean is no longer their GM though. Maybe the new admin feels different about Zherdev? ...The one guy that would really interest me on the BJ depth chart is Derrick Brassard. LOL, first rounder, sixth overall...kinda smallish but used to play well with Latendresse. I wonder if they would take Danis for him?  |
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Post by BadCompany on Jul 18, 2007 8:26:54 GMT -5
Jussi Jokinen is the latest. Jussi Jokinnen eh? Two claims to fame, for Jussi Jokinnen; he was great on shootouts two years ago, and the Beatles wrote a song about him. Jussi yes, I say no
Jussi say stop and I say go, go, go
Oh, no
Jussi goodbye and I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
I say high, Jussi low
Jussi why, and I say I don't know
Oh, no
Jussi goodbye and I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
Why, why, why, why, why, why
Do Jussi good bye
Goodbye, bye, bye, bye, bye
Oh, no
Jussi goodbye and I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye I say hello
Hello
Hela, heba helloa
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Post by franko on Jul 18, 2007 9:01:40 GMT -5
...The one guy that would really interest me on the BJ depth chart is Derrick Brassard. LOL, first rounder, sixth overall...kinda smallish but used to play well with Latendresse. Montreal Canadiens 2007, The Sequel: The Return of the Smurfs. |
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Post by Skilly on Jul 18, 2007 9:44:45 GMT -5
LOL, first rounder, sixth overall...kinda smallish but used to play well with Latendresse. Montreal Canadiens 2007, The Sequel: The Return of the Smurfs. Isn't there a Smurf movie coming out this summer or next? They may want to change the song they sing ..... La la, la la la la ....la la la la la Mo mo, mo mo mo mo ... mont - tre - al!! |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 18, 2007 12:39:06 GMT -5
Jussi Jokinen is the latest. Jussi Jokinnen eh? Two claims to fame, for Jussi Jokinnen; he was great on shootouts two years ago, and the Beatles wrote a song about him. Jussi yes, I say no
Jussi say stop and I say go, go, go
Oh, no
Jussi goodbye and I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
Hello, hello
I don't know why Jussi goodbye
I say hello
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Hela, heba helloa
Hela, heba helloa Juss Jokin, right? |
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Post by jkr on Jul 18, 2007 20:25:36 GMT -5
Zherdev. Mclean had nothing good to say about him. Mclean is no longer their GM though. Maybe the new admin feels different about Zherdev? ...The one guy that would really interest me on the BJ depth chart is Derrick Brassard. I would guess Gainey & Hitchcock are still on speaking terms. Maybe they conversed to get the lowdown on Zherdev, whatever that happens to be. |
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Post by Skilly on Aug 15, 2007 19:41:35 GMT -5
The latest rumour:
The Habs and Kings are rumoured to be discussing a deal that would bring Visnovsky to Montreal.
The Kings reportedly are asking for a prospect and Steve Begin and a pick. Depending on the source, the Habs may be a stopover for Visnovsky. One source is telling me it is, one isn't sure, but apparently the Sharks have some interest in Visnovsky.
A pick, a prospect, and Steve Begin for Vishnovsky .... nice and cheap.
Then the Sharks take him in a package for Marleau.
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Post by vin on Aug 15, 2007 20:26:42 GMT -5
The only drawback to that trade would be Visnovsky's size.5'10"-188 pound's.I'd still do it though,Visnovsky had 58 point's last year.
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Post by Andrew on Aug 16, 2007 0:43:09 GMT -5
I think that Visnovsky might help us more than Marleau. .84 ppg last year and + 1 on a team that was -57 in goal differential.
With a top 4 of Markov, Visnovsky, Hamrlik, and Komisarek, all of a sudden we're looking pretty solid on D.
What's Visnovsky's contract status?
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Post by habfan74 on Aug 16, 2007 6:03:54 GMT -5
According to TSN he recently signed a 5 yr. contract @ an average of 5.65 per yr.
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Post by jkr on Aug 16, 2007 7:58:00 GMT -5
Visnovsky has good offensive numbers for a D man - 35 goals in the last 2 seasons. But that cap hit...
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Post by blny on Aug 16, 2007 10:20:37 GMT -5
Definitely a salary dump here, given the particulars. I've like Lubomir for a long time, and playing west he often goes unnoticed. He's a strong offensive presence on the blueline, and makes a lot of slick plays. His lack of size is a concern, but considering he's been a plus player in the NHL for all but one season I think he makes up for it with smarts. I'm with Andrew, the idea of adding him to our top 4, and keeping him, makes a lot of sense to me - despite the contract.
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Post by Skilly on Aug 16, 2007 21:37:02 GMT -5
Eklund is convinced that Montreal will bring in another center this month ..... So if it is true is PLeky or Smolinski the third line center?
He also mentions that Patrice Bergeron may be traded .....
In other news there is word now that Boston may be talking to Vancouver about either Mitchel or Ohlund for Partrice Bergeron, who the Islanders were discussing earlier in the week...I am quite certain that Boston is NOT done and if I would rank the teams to watch for deals in August it would go something like this...
1. Boston -needs D.... Will either move a forward to free up cap space to sign Markov, move for a d-man, or sign Tanabe or Berard.
2. Vancouver- needs O...They will either move a d-man for some scoring help or sign Anson Carter or Eric Lindros.
3. NJ- needs alot...They need to replace Rafalski and have never replaced Niedermayer. They also need a playmaker and power play help. They could make a move with Vancouver or could try and do a deal that I have heard talked about today. A deal to bring Jovo or Morris to NJ. They also could look to make an even more major move...
4. Montreal. They have depth on D, but not real quality. Markov is a number 2, but is he a #1? I don't know if anyone knows. Hamrlik will be a very interesting player that I could see being a bust or just going on a scoring rampage...Montreal also needs a center...they will bring in one by the start of camp is what I continue to hear. And as I mentioned yesterday, they are definitely talking to LA.
5. NY Rangers. They are a team on a mission to win a Cup now...but they don't have the offensive d-men to start the transition game and although they may start the season with this group I feel it is highly unlikely that they end it with this exact cast. They need a d man badly and I still hear Jovo's name tied very closely to the NYR.
6. Toronto. An interesting team with a rising star in Wellwood and a solid d corps. Much will ride on Blake of course, but this is not a season that JFJ can sit back at all...They are still looking to clear space and talking to Colorado...something has to give....
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Post by habmeister on Aug 17, 2007 1:05:02 GMT -5
markov, hamrlik, komi, dandy, boullion, gorges, brisebois, o'byrne, valentenko. if at camp one of o'byrne and valentenko prove to be "nhl ready" then at least 1 or 2 have to go. look for ryder/gorges/pick for a 1st/2nd line center kind of deal. take that eklund!
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Post by Skilly on Aug 17, 2007 6:18:38 GMT -5
markov, hamrlik, komi, dandy, boullion, gorges, brisebois, o'byrne, valentenko. if at camp one of o'byrne and valentenko prove to be "nhl ready" then at least 1 or 2 have to go. look for ryder/gorges/pick for a 1st/2nd line center kind of deal. take that eklund! Then we'd have to find another top 6 winger. I never understood the Ryder "one for one" trades .... unless everyone is (and Gainey) is convinced Kostitsyn will replace Ryder's 30 goals. We have 4.9 million in cap space. We can get a Marleau type player (ie 4.0-4.5 million) if we trade our prospects and get a player for cheap (ie the Vishnovsky rumour) from another team. Imagine getting Visnovsky and only giving up Begin/a third round pick / Grabovski ..... then turning around and getting Marleau for Vishnovsky and Kostitsyn (or Emelin - or another defense prospect). |
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Post by HFTO on Aug 17, 2007 7:23:34 GMT -5
All this speculation just creates further frustration for us Habs fans who know something has to happen to get this team to where it needs to be.
If the Habs could get rid of Grabovski in a deal I'd be all for it he's a poor man's Perezhogin IMO,besides his speed I don't get the hype..doesn't shoot as well as Perez gets knocked off the puck frequently and rarely passes.If he's high on anybodies list that would be a win should a prospect have to be included in any deal.
HFTO
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 17, 2007 7:38:21 GMT -5
Just DO something.....sweeten the pot and bring in a stud. No guarantees, I understand that...and you might even make the other team better in the process....but DO something already. Even Pollock traded away future stars in Tony Esposito, Danny Grant, and Mickey Redmond.
I'm getting tired of the "we offered as much but they decided to sign elsewhere" explanations. Sounds like Leafs' excuses.
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Post by blny on Aug 17, 2007 8:00:11 GMT -5
Pollock never had to work within a cap, although we all know he could have aced it as well. I've never been a huge fan of trading just for the sake of it either. I think if the right deal for the right player comes along we have to do it. I would like to see further work done to the overall chemistry of the team. I'd like to seem them be a more dynamic force. That said, I really won't be holding my breath for a move this year. I really think BG is going to place faith in a lot of the kids to see what they're made of. Work them, and move what doesn't fit.
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 17, 2007 8:11:44 GMT -5
Pollock never had to work within a cap, although we all know he could have aced it as well. I've never been a huge fan of trading just for the sake of it either. I think if the right deal for the right player comes along we have to do it. I would like to see further work done to the overall chemistry of the team. I'd like to seem them be a more dynamic force. That said, I really won't be holding my breath for a move this year. I really think BG is going to place faith in a lot of the kids to see what they're made of. Work them, and move what doesn't fit. If you're correct...and you very well could be the way it looks now....sit tight and be patient, it's going to be a loooooong year. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Aug 17, 2007 8:19:59 GMT -5
then turning around and getting Marleau for Vishnovsky and Kostitsyn (or Emelin - or another defense prospect). A top 4 dmen signed long term and a prospect seems like a steep for a guy who's a UFA at the end of the season, no? |
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Post by Habfaith on Aug 17, 2007 11:34:18 GMT -5
All this speculation just creates further frustration for us Habs fans who know something has to happen to get this team to where it needs to be. If the Habs could get rid of Grabovski in a deal I'd be all for it he's a poor man's Perezhogin IMO,besides his speed I don't get the hype..doesn't shoot as well as Perez gets knocked off the puck frequently and rarely passes.If he's high on anybodies list that would be a win should a prospect have to be included in any deal. HFTO Really? I thought Grabovski played really well when he got his chance. For a guy who only got a few shifts in the NHL so far he really caught my attention. I was really impressed by his 1st step acceleration, and I thought he was very creative and confident with the puck. He wasn't shy about going into the corners either. Perezhogin took quite a while before he started to show what he could do, this kid showed he is chomping at the bit. He was one of the offensive leaders with the Bulldogs and he is still a kid. I wouldn't be opposed to him in a package if it brought us some immediate help, but I really think we are sitting on a gem with this guy. I don't think there is enough hype about him. |
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Post by Habfaith on Aug 17, 2007 11:42:09 GMT -5
then turning around and getting Marleau for Vishnovsky and Kostitsyn (or Emelin - or another defense prospect). A top 4 dmen signed long term and a prospect seems like a steep for a guy who's a UFA at the end of the season, no? I agree, if we got our hands on Visnovsky, I would hang on to him. I like Marleau, but Visnovsky for 4? years is better than Marleau for one year. I know we need offense, but Visnovski would definitely help replace Souray's presence on the PP. Like Andrew said, the foursome of Markov, Visnovsky, Komi and Hammer would be pretty damn good. |
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Post by blny on Aug 17, 2007 15:04:55 GMT -5
Pollock never had to work within a cap, although we all know he could have aced it as well. I've never been a huge fan of trading just for the sake of it either. I think if the right deal for the right player comes along we have to do it. I would like to see further work done to the overall chemistry of the team. I'd like to seem them be a more dynamic force. That said, I really won't be holding my breath for a move this year. I really think BG is going to place faith in a lot of the kids to see what they're made of. Work them, and move what doesn't fit. If you're correct...and you very well could be the way it looks now....sit tight and be patient, it's going to be a loooooong year. For me, I include the likes of Higgins, Pleks, and Komisarek in that group. I think this is their year to assert themselves and sorta become the core. Those that can't step up will become expendable. |
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Post by PTH on Aug 17, 2007 23:21:54 GMT -5
If you're correct...and you very well could be the way it looks now....sit tight and be patient, it's going to be a loooooong year. For me, I include the likes of Higgins, Pleks, and Komisarek in that group. I think this is their year to assert themselves and sorta become the core. Those that can't step up will become expendable. To me, the problem is that we could lose Ryder at the end of this season, Komisarek the following year, Higgins the year after that, and Plekanec in one of the two final years of that period.... How can we build from within if we can't keep our buidling blocks ? |
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Post by blny on Aug 18, 2007 8:57:54 GMT -5
I think it's a bit of a "sky is falling" attitude to think that if we lose Ryder, and he's not lost yet, that we face the same fate with Komisarek, Higgins, and Plekanec.
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