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Post by Boston_Habs on Jul 1, 2007 20:47:43 GMT -5
Now that Drury is in NY, the whole Marleau trade is off the table.
Ugly weekend.
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Post by jkr on Jul 1, 2007 21:01:59 GMT -5
This is what I figured too. They would be nuts to trade him now.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 10, 2007 14:01:22 GMT -5
...may not be completely dead actually.
Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I've always been of the opinion that the Marleau trade could hinge on Koivu. I believe that Saku was honest when he said the he'd like to win in Montreal but I think he was also honest when he said he did not want to be part of yet another rebuilding process here. With both Koivu's best friends gone and very little but ifs and maybes coming back as reinforcement, I still scratch my head as to how Gainey will sell to Saku that the help he wanted is... well... Smolinski and Kostopoulos... When even Red Fisher, die-hard fan and eternal optimist, can't drink the cool-aid anymore, obviously things aren't all that rosy for next reason...
That is why I think Koivu could ask to be traded and San Jose may be a destination. Sans Jose sends us back Patrick Marleau and signs Selanne to play with Koivu. Saku is on a cup contender surrounded by friends... Not the best scenario for Montreal of course but that hasn't stop Bob before.
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Post by The Habsome One on Jul 10, 2007 19:42:15 GMT -5
...may not be completely dead actually. Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I've always been of the opinion that the Marleau trade could hinge on Koivu. I believe that Saku was honest when he said the he'd like to win in Montreal but I think he was also honest when he said he did not want to be part of yet another rebuilding process here. With both Koivu's best friends gone and very little but ifs and maybes coming back as reinforcement, I still scratch my head as to how Gainey will sell to Saku that the help he wanted is... well... Smolinski and Kostopoulos... When even Red Fisher, die-hard fan and eternal optimist, can't drink the cool-aid anymore, obviously things aren't all that rosy for next reason... That is why I think Koivu could ask to be traded and San Jose may be a destination. Sans Jose sends us back Patrick Marleau and signs Selanne to play with Koivu. Saku is on a cup contender surrounded by friends... Not the best scenario for Montreal of course but that hasn't stop Bob before.We get a much bigger, younger, and quicker first line quality centre in exchange for a our should be second line centre? How is this not the best scenario for Montreal? |
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Post by Rimmer on Jul 11, 2007 3:53:27 GMT -5
maybe because Marleau is a UFA next year?
R.
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Post by Doc Holliday on Jul 11, 2007 6:22:22 GMT -5
...may not be completely dead actually. Of course this is pure speculation on my part but I've always been of the opinion that the Marleau trade could hinge on Koivu. I believe that Saku was honest when he said the he'd like to win in Montreal but I think he was also honest when he said he did not want to be part of yet another rebuilding process here. With both Koivu's best friends gone and very little but ifs and maybes coming back as reinforcement, I still scratch my head as to how Gainey will sell to Saku that the help he wanted is... well... Smolinski and Kostopoulos... When even Red Fisher, die-hard fan and eternal optimist, can't drink the cool-aid anymore, obviously things aren't all that rosy for next reason... That is why I think Koivu could ask to be traded and San Jose may be a destination. Sans Jose sends us back Patrick Marleau and signs Selanne to play with Koivu. Saku is on a cup contender surrounded by friends... Not the best scenario for Montreal of course but that hasn't stop Bob before.We get a much bigger, younger, and quicker first line quality centre in exchange for a our should be second line centre? How is this not the best scenario for Montreal? IMO, player for player Koivu is the better one. Saku is, in the right environment, a top level player. Marleau's stats prior to the arrival of Thornton were pretty ordinary and while he has size, he isn't a player that I consider gritty or even physical. Not saying Marleau is chopped liver, he is a good player, but I consider Koivu better. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 11, 2007 7:30:27 GMT -5
We get a much bigger, younger, and quicker first line quality centre in exchange for a our should be second line centre? How is this not the best scenario for Montreal? IMO, player for player Koivu is the better one. Saku is, in the right environment, a top level player. Marleau's stats prior to the arrival of Thornton were pretty ordinary and while he has size, he isn't a player that I consider gritty or even physical. Not saying Marleau is chopped liver, he is a good player, but I consider Koivu better. That's about it, Doc. While Koivu hasn't put up the big time numbers, I do think he's proven a bit more than Marleau. Would take quite a bit to land Marleau though, guys. Something like: To Montreal: Marleau, To San Jose: Plekanec, Milroy, and a 1st. Would really like to land Marc-Edouard Vlasic as well. But, being a young NHL-proven defenceman, I think it might be a tad unrealistic. But, if we did land Marleau we'd be pretty strong down the middle. At least stronger than we've been in years anyway. Cheers. |
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Post by Polarice on Jul 11, 2007 8:13:26 GMT -5
To Montreal: Marleau, To San Jose: Plekanec, Milroy, and a 1st. Would really like to land Marc-Edouard Vlasic as well. But, being a young NHL-proven defenceman, I think it might be a tad unrealistic. But, if we did land Marleau we'd be pretty strong down the middle. At least stronger than we've been in years anyway. Cheers. I not really excited about getting Marleau. IMO he is not the piece we are missing, I wouldn't consider him a big upgrade over Plekanec. We'd be better off getting someone like Richards, even if it would cost us someone like Ryder. |
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Post by Habfaith on Jul 11, 2007 10:47:40 GMT -5
IMO, player for player Koivu is the better one. Saku is, in the right environment, a top level player. Marleau's stats prior to the arrival of Thornton were pretty ordinary and while he has size, he isn't a player that I consider gritty or even physical. Not saying Marleau is chopped liver, he is a good player, but I consider Koivu better. I agree Doc. Though I am a fan of Marleau's and would love to see him here (I think he plays a more physical game than you give him credit for), Koivu is a better all round package IMO. Saku may not be thrilled that Montreal didn't add any big talent in the off season, but I'm hoping our youth steps in and buoys his confidence in the team. If we trade Saku, I will wear black for a month... |
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