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Post by blny on Nov 29, 2007 11:49:33 GMT -5
I see on spector's that Pierre MacGuire was on the Fan in Vancouver. Pierre said he'd been talking back and forth via text messages with Mark Recchi. Recchi expects to be dealt by Friday.
According to Pierre, Mark feels the impending trade is because the younger players want to be the voice of the dressing room and feel the veterans are making it hard to do. Doesn't make any sense to me, but Mark has been invisible this year. One has to wonder, if that's the real reason for the move what that dressing room is like.
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Post by cigarviper on Nov 29, 2007 13:37:09 GMT -5
In other words, Sid is tired of him. So, does that mean Roberts is available too?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 14:17:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind having Roberts on our team...
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Post by clear observer on Nov 29, 2007 14:23:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind having Roberts on our team... I wouldn't mind having Sid on our team. ;D |
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 29, 2007 16:38:48 GMT -5
I'd pick up the last of Recchi's contract. I always liked him and he can still be productive - 68 points last year.
He would be especially useful if we package Ryder and others in that big trade we've been waiting for.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 29, 2007 16:59:26 GMT -5
I'd pick up the last of Recchi's contract. I always liked him and he can still be productive - 68 points last year. He would be especially useful if we package Ryder and others in that big trade we've been waiting for. Help me! Every post on every subject eventually turns into trade Ryder in a package. Except for Skilly and me, everyone wants Ryder run out of town, and maybe to get back Sidney Crosby in a trade. Realistically, Ryder is not producing points this year, after exceeding our expectations all previous years. He is improving his play without the puck and he is hustling and trying. It must be frustrating for him, but he keeps working and has shown some speed chasing opportunities. It's not just one guy that wants him out. Why haven't we shown more patience in this trying time for him? |
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Post by franko on Nov 29, 2007 17:32:41 GMT -5
Because, HFLA, we'd rather shoot our own and put them out of our misery.
No, I actually think it is because many don't expect Ryder to re-sign here anyway, so may as well get a token something for him (the whole Ryder for Vinny or Sid mentality makes me laugh -- we want to run him out of town asap but expect a big return -- not going to happen).
Also, I really do wonder about us jumping on the "grab Rechhi" bandwagen. What's it going to be: go after those who have worn out their welcome elsewhere and fill in a body-spot (even if it is a lateral more or just a slight improvement), or bring a young 'un up from the minors?
Door number 2, Bob.
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Post by Marvin on Nov 29, 2007 18:39:56 GMT -5
Speaking of Recchi, Eklund has Halak to Pitts for Recchi as an E(3). Say it ain't so!
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Post by cigarviper on Nov 29, 2007 19:22:39 GMT -5
Mr. Obvious here. Ryder is expected to be moved bacause of his contract status coupled with the fact that many fans feel we are in a position (premature) to deal surplus talent for the ever elusive star player. He's a natural assumption to be included in the next deal. In reality, if he was filling the net right now he probably would be dealt as soon as someone with an enticing tidbit to offer makes a proposal. As it stands though, he's barely worth a 3rd liner right now. If that's the case, what's the point? The best thing for everyone is for Mikey to get it together. Obviously, that's what he's trying to do. Personally, I'd prefer it if he stays, but he has to be consistant.
As for Recchi, no thanks. Gary Roberts? How bout Corey Locke?
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Post by blny on Nov 29, 2007 21:10:18 GMT -5
I don't have any interest in the Wrecking Ball or Roberts. I don't think either address a need. I just think it's interesting that according to the story, Recchi has been left to work out a trade with his agent. The Pens aren't even putting forth an effort except to alienate Mark from the room.
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Post by Marvin on Nov 29, 2007 21:16:52 GMT -5
I would have taken Recchi in a heartbeat in 1991, but now? No thanks.
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Post by seventeen on Nov 29, 2007 21:47:19 GMT -5
I think Mark has made that move down to a lower level. Not quite the quick hands he had. He's missed a few goals this year because of timing and that's not a good sign. Now, if the Pens were anxious to move Roberts, I'd be waiting in line a week before the doors open. There's a guy that will stick his butt in front of the net and show Lats how its done.
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Post by cigarviper on Nov 29, 2007 22:43:25 GMT -5
Roberts has little speed but in the crease he's tougher than anyone we have.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 30, 2007 7:51:34 GMT -5
Well, Mark Recchi may be on his way out of Pittsburgh but I don't know how he'd provide what we're in need of in Montreal.
Was watching the end of the Preds/Sens game last night. You know who they had on in the last minute to perserve the win? Martin Gelinas.
What's the difference between these two veterans? If we were take on another veteran in Montreal I'd go with a guy like Gelinas rather than Recchi.
Cheers.
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Post by HFTO on Nov 30, 2007 8:35:52 GMT -5
Really not sure what Recchi could provide us at this point either,it's always tough looking back to the past especiallly in Recchi's case.I'm a big Recchi fan but the Habs need scoring and Recchi's not the answer,we already have Smokes and have seen first hand how his production has declined.I know Saku would love it but besides that I'd pass.If the Habs were really close and they could add a vet that maybe a different story.Our pal eklund has Recchi coming here for Halak,even if true there would have to be something else coming our way.Wouldn't make sense to make the Pens stronger in an area in which they are struggling for a part time player,throw Sid in and maybe we could work something out.
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Post by jkr on Nov 30, 2007 10:51:19 GMT -5
Eklund has had Halak going around the league since training camp. I wish the guy would think about the rumors before he posts. Really now - Edmonton needs offense & they are talking to Toronto?  Who are they going to ask for - Jason Blake who hasn't scored in 18 games.  |
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Post by HFTO on Nov 30, 2007 13:06:09 GMT -5
I agree I love rumours as much as anybody but they have to have some credibility and really make sense.
In this new era with clubs so close nobodies going to strengthen a club in there own conference unless its a bonafide win win and most importantly the $$$ match.
Not too many clubs have that much wiggle room.
If the Habs resign Huet to a reasonable contract then you might be able to believe the halak stuff but it won't be to an eastern conference club unless the Habs hit the motherload and at the same time you'd have to most likely expand the trade to match $$.
HFTO
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Post by Skilly on Nov 30, 2007 18:31:35 GMT -5
Mr. Obvious here. Ryder is expected to be moved bacause of his contract status coupled with the fact that many fans feel we are in a position (premature) to deal surplus talent for the ever elusive star player. He's a natural assumption to be included in the next deal. In reality, if he was filling the net right now he probably would be dealt as soon as someone with an enticing tidbit to offer makes a proposal. As it stands though, he's barely worth a 3rd liner right now. If that's the case, what's the point? The best thing for everyone is for Mikey to get it together. Obviously, that's what he's trying to do. Personally, I'd prefer it if he stays, but he has to be consistant. He is playing like a player who expects to be traded, who sees his career in Montreal as under-appreciated and sees the light at the end of the tunnel. What incentive does he have to play well for Montreal? Tomorrow he could be playing against them. He did something no other player in the history of Montreal ever did, and was that 30 goal scorer that Montreal lacked for a decade ...and where did that get him? Lets look at his 4 years: Year 1 - Calder runner up, led all rookies in goals - 1 yr contract Year 2 - 30 goals - 1 yr contract Year 3 - 30 goals - 1 yr contract Year 4 - he is struggling, so he sucks, lets dump him Now he is called a "PP specialist" and we suddenly all love Kovalev. Ahhhh Ryder scored 56% of his goals last year on the PP, Kovalev scored 55% of his goals last year on the PP. This year Ryder has 66% of his goals on the PP, and Kovalev has 66% of his goals on the PP..... we showed Kovalev a few years patience and even re-signed him. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 30, 2007 19:02:09 GMT -5
Mr. Obvious here. Ryder is expected to be moved bacause of his contract status coupled with the fact that many fans feel we are in a position (premature) to deal surplus talent for the ever elusive star player. He's a natural assumption to be included in the next deal. In reality, if he was filling the net right now he probably would be dealt as soon as someone with an enticing tidbit to offer makes a proposal. As it stands though, he's barely worth a 3rd liner right now. If that's the case, what's the point? The best thing for everyone is for Mikey to get it together. Obviously, that's what he's trying to do. Personally, I'd prefer it if he stays, but he has to be consistant. He is playing like a player who expects to be traded, who sees his career in Montreal as under-appreciated and sees the light at the end of the tunnel. What incentive does he have to play well for Montreal? Tomorrow he could be playing against them. Doesn't that way of thinking come back to bite him in the a$$? If he finishes the season with 12 goals the offers will not be as great? In a contract year most players have strong years (& get accused of not putting out between deals.) |
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Post by Skilly on Nov 30, 2007 19:20:22 GMT -5
He is playing like a player who expects to be traded, who sees his career in Montreal as under-appreciated and sees the light at the end of the tunnel. What incentive does he have to play well for Montreal? Tomorrow he could be playing against them. Doesn't that way of thinking come back to bite him in the a$$? If he finishes the season with 12 goals the offers will not be as great? In a contract year most players have strong years (& get accused of not putting out between deals.) Possibly. But I am not suggesting thats his way of thinking .. I am just saying that 30 goals gets him jack**** in Montreal. So he gets a small 1 yr offer (like he isnt accustomed to them) from a team, goes out and shows this year is an aberation (and I still think Carbo is using him wrong) and that team signs him to the multi-year deal. Every player has an off year .... only in Montreal to we run them out of town unceremoniously for it though. |
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Post by jkr on Nov 30, 2007 19:35:57 GMT -5
Doesn't that way of thinking come back to bite him in the a$$? If he finishes the season with 12 goals the offers will not be as great? In a contract year most players have strong years (& get accused of not putting out between deals.) Possibly. But I am not suggesting thats his way of thinking .. I am just saying that 30 goals gets him jack**** in Montreal. So he gets a small 1 yr offer (like he isnt accustomed to them) from a team, goes out and shows this year is an aberation (and I still think Carbo is using him wrong) and that team signs him to the multi-year deal. Every player has an off year .... only in Montreal to we run them out of town unceremoniously for it though. the same thing may have happened to Kovalev if he had just one year left on his deal instead of two. |
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Post by sergejean on Nov 30, 2007 21:21:26 GMT -5
Back to Recchi, I was never a fan of him to start with so I will not start to like him more now that he's washed out. I always tought he was overrated and I never belived in his "leadership".
Stay away from him is what I think!
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 1, 2007 11:00:49 GMT -5
Finished player, completely out of gas, not even the shadow of his former self, would provide nothing that we need.
...yep, I can see Gainey wanting him.
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Post by clear observer on Dec 1, 2007 13:32:22 GMT -5
Finished player, completely out of gas, not even the shadow of his former self, would provide nothing that we need. ...yep, I can see Gainey wanting him. Huh?....wha?....we're gonna RE-SIGN Brisebois again?......WTFrig!!! |
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Post by Cranky on Dec 2, 2007 14:14:04 GMT -5
Sure, let's make our team a place were washed out veterans come to retire. We did that with Breezy, why not Rechhi? And while we are at it, let's sign Lafleur. Wait, I have more. Let's look at a brighter future by looking forward to trading Huet and Price and resigning MeMoi. Are we that desperate? Is our pride that bankrupt?  |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Dec 2, 2007 17:03:44 GMT -5
Sure, let's make our team a place were washed out veterans come to retire. We did that with Breezy, why not Rechhi? And while we are at it, let's sign Lafleur. Wait, I have more. Let's look at a brighter future by looking forward to trading Huet and Price and resigning MeMoi. Are we that desperate? Is our pride that bankrupt? We should have learned from the Savard-Chelios trade that the old-peoples home is not the place to look when stocking a team. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 8, 2007 15:08:04 GMT -5
I guess the Thrashers just claimed him. Thrashers pick up Recchi
By THE CANADIAN PRESS
ATLANTA - The Atlanta Thrashers claimed veteran forward Mark Recchi off waivers on Saturday.
Recchi had two goals and six assists in 19 games with Pittsburgh this season.
He cleared waivers Wednesday, was assigned to the AHL's Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins on Thursday and then was placed on re-entry waivers on Friday.
Atlanta will get Recchi for half of his US$1.75-million contract with the Penguins paying the other half.
Thrashers spokesman Rob Koch said Saturday that the five-foot-10, 190-pound Recchi is expected to join the team in Atlanta on Sunday. The Thrashers play at Washington on Saturday.
Recchi will probably have his first practice with the team on Tuesday.
Penguins coach Michel Therrien said this week that the Penguins' younger players deserved more ice time than Recchi, who will turn 40 in February. Recchi was scratched for six consecutive games before being waived.
"We believe we gave him an opportunity," Therrien said. "It didn't work out."
Recchi has 1341 points (510-831) in 1357 career games.
He played on Stanley Cup champion teams in 1991 with Pittsburgh and 2006 with Carolina. He also has had two stints with Philadelphia and played five years for Montreal.
He will be an unrestricted free agent July 1. slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Atlanta/2007/12/08/4714617-cp.html |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 19, 2007 15:45:00 GMT -5
..according to Renaud Lavoie, Gainey had the intention to take Recchi from re-entry waivers. But Atlanta did it before him.
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Post by jkr on Dec 19, 2007 17:56:50 GMT -5
..according to Renaud Lavoie, Gainey had the intention to take Recchi from re-entry waivers. But Atlanta did it before him. do you have a link Doc? I was reading about this on another board & several posters felt that this was speculation on Lavoie's part & that he had no real sources. BTW, he has 3 goals since he went over to Atlanta. |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Dec 20, 2007 13:17:39 GMT -5
..according to Renaud Lavoie, Gainey had the intention to take Recchi from re-entry waivers. But Atlanta did it before him. do you have a link Doc? I was reading about this on another board & several posters felt that this was speculation on Lavoie's part & that he had no real sources. BTW, he has 3 goals since he went over to Atlanta. Right here: www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/242453.html |
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Who are they going to ask for - Jason Blake who hasn't scored in 18 games. 
