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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 15, 2008 10:14:10 GMT -5
Wonder if Chicago might be serious about moving this guy. I think its possible he'll be moved to a contender shortly. This rift between he and Savard is now a topic of discussion in the media.
Cheers.
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 15, 2008 10:23:34 GMT -5
Martin Havlat lives in Montreal during the off-season.
I'm just saying, is all...
(oh, but he is so brittle...)
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Post by blny on Feb 15, 2008 10:48:17 GMT -5
That's just it BC. Talented player, but he's a "Glass Joe". Breath on him and he's out for a couple of games with something. I don't know if it's conditioning, or what. In the end it doesn't matter how good you are as a player if you're spending more time in the press box than on the ice.
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Post by jkr on Feb 15, 2008 10:48:40 GMT -5
One year left after this season at 6 million. Maybe but his health scares the heck out of me. Can he play centre?  |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 15, 2008 11:09:16 GMT -5
Well, I had a post all pounded out before but lets look at the pros and cons:
Cons
* He's oft-injured,
* Though he's been good recently, sometimes gets these undisciplined penalties; crosscheck to the chops of another player, kicking with his skates.
* Like jkr pointed out, he's got one year remaining after this one at $6 million then he's an UFA.
Pros
* Would probably be the most talented player on the roster after Kovalev.
* He's got the wheels, the shot and the hands.
* Could he be the finisher Koivu needs?
There's a few positives with this guy for sure.
Cheers.
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 15, 2008 11:09:44 GMT -5
He'd probably be 3rd on my list, just ahead of Tanguay, of the players rumoured to be available.
Hossa and Jokinen would be the first two.
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 15, 2008 11:10:29 GMT -5
Where did this rumour come from?
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Post by franko on Feb 15, 2008 11:28:21 GMT -5
Where did this rumour come from? Is it on Eklund yet? Seriously, though . . . ProSticks up for himself; feisty. |
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Post by Polarice on Feb 15, 2008 11:43:58 GMT -5
I'd take him, especially if its only a year left on his contract, but I wouldn't give a whole lot for him, Ryder, a prospect like Cote, Chips, and a pick.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 15, 2008 11:51:52 GMT -5
I thought Dis used a capital "G" for a reason .... Havlat for "Grabs"-ovski. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2008 11:57:47 GMT -5
Ryder and a prospect would be all that I offer, because Havlat's numbers aren't that much better than Ryder's, even though Mike is a UFA.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 15, 2008 13:04:08 GMT -5
Where did this rumour come from? No rumour at all, Red. Just me asking a question based on some media reports I've read. Cheers. |
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 15, 2008 13:10:53 GMT -5
Where did this rumour come from? No rumour at all, Red. Just me asking a question based on some media reports I've read. Cheers. Yeah I was wondering which media reports. I like to read too, you see. ;D |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 15, 2008 13:18:03 GMT -5
I thought Dis used a capital "G" for a reason .... Havlat for "Grabs"-ovski. You know what, though? If it were Grabs and a pick, something like that, I'd probably go for it. Not sure how this would affect the cap space for next year, but that would be one whack of expensive FAs to re-sign in 09/10. According to nhlnumbers.com: UFA (09/10)* Koivu * Kovalev * Komisarek * Begin * Kostopoulos * Bouillon RAs (09/10)* Higgins * Latendresse * Plekanec * Chipchura But, it doesn't include the 08/09 FAs either. Add $6 million to the payroll for next year if he were to come on board. How much of an affect will signing Havlat have on these numbers? Cheers. |
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 15, 2008 13:25:00 GMT -5
I thought Dis used a capital "G" for a reason .... Havlat for "Grabs"-ovski. You know what, though? If it were Grabs and a pick, something like that, I'd probably go for it. Not sure how this would affect the cap space for next year, but that would be one whack of expensive FAs to re-sign in 09/10. According to nhlnumbers.com: UFA (09/10)* Koivu * Kovalev * Komisarek * Begin * Kostopoulos * Bouillon RAs (09/10)* Higgins * Latendresse * Plekanec * Chipchura But, it doesn't include the 08/09 FAs either. Add $6 million to the payroll for next year if he were to come on board. How much of an affect will signing Havlat have on these numbers? Cheers. Wouldn't he be a free agent at that point as well though? Then we either let him go, or re-sign him. He'd have no impact on the other signings IMO. I'd be amazed if Plekanec isn't locked up before next season started. Ditto Komisarek. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 15, 2008 13:39:57 GMT -5
Yeah I was wondering which media reports. I like to read too, you see. ;D Chicago Daily Herald ... Are Havlat, Blackhawks destined to part company? (link)
By Tim Sassone | Daily Herald ColumnistContact writerPublished: 1/31/2008 12:14 AM
Havlat's future with the Hawks for the long term already was iffy, to say the least.
It's no secret Havlat and Savard don't have a warm and fuzzy relationship. Savard likes to challenge Havlat, sometimes in a strong way behind closed doors, and the veteran winger often doesn't like it.
Havlat is signed through next season, at which time he could be an unrestricted free agent. The chances aren't good he would even consider re-signing with the Hawks if Savard is still the coach, and there's no reason to believe Savard won't be even in the new world being created by chairman Rocky Wirtz and president John McDonough.
On the reverse side, the Hawks may not choose to re-sign Havlat given his injury history, and certainly not at his current salary of $6 million, or even more.
So how is it all going to end for the Havlat and the Hawks?
General manager Dale Tallon could try to trade Havlat before the Feb. 26 deadline, and there have been rumblings Havlat might be available. The trick would be finding a team willing to pick up the $6 million next season.
Leading up to the deadline, there are some big names expected to be available -- such as free agent Peter Forsberg, Toronto's Mats Sundin and Jason Blake, San Jose's Patrick Marleau, Atlanta's Marian Hossa, Columbus' Sergei Fedorov, Nashville's J.P. Dumont, Los Angeles' Mike Cammalleri and perhaps Florida's Olli Jokinen -- and all the contenders are out there sniffing.
Maybe if a Stanley Cup hopeful such as Detroit, Philadelphia, Vancouver, San Jose or Anaheim loses out on a Sundin, a Forsberg or a Hossa, they might have an interest in Havlat.
The Hawks shouldn't deal Havlat unless they get a good return. Perhaps the best option would be for the Hawks to keep him and let him play out his contract next season. The Hawks could be a highly competitive club next season, and Havlat, providing he can stay healthy, in a contract year could yield big, big numbers.
Both Savard and Havlat are saying all the right things about each other. Havlat said Monday he had no problems with the coach, and Savard returned the favor at Wednesday's morning skate.
"There are no problems as far as I'm concerned," Savard said.
This is just one more big issue on Tallon's plate. If there was a way Tallon could move both Havlat and goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin, that would give him almost $13 more million to spend on players for next season.
Havlat would have been better off saying nothing the other day, but he was only giving his opinion to questions asked by the Daily Herald and the Score's Jesse Rogers. He was neither angry nor bitter toward Savard.
The Hawks once believed they needed Havlat to be their star attraction and best offensive player going forward into the future, but with Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews exploding onto the scene this season, that thinking apparently has changed.I've seen suggestions that Havlat and Savard aren't getting along on the TSN's "Ice Chips" as well. That, along with this article here, suggests that it's all speculation. Dale Tallon has even since denied shopping Havlat. But, as I was saying, the whole gist of the thread is for discussion. Cheers. |
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Post by HFTO on Feb 16, 2008 8:34:46 GMT -5
I was thinking of Havlat several weeks ago atleast he's signed but has the pez dispensing shoulder.He could be dynamic on Koivu's right wing if healthy though?If it only costs you d-men in prospects which the Hawks need then I'd consider it?Otherwise it's too risky given his health issues.I think Bob's gonna sign a real lesser light and stay the course.
Ryder Huet would surely be gone off the roster as well as probably Dandy if he can be moved to make room,and I'm going to bet Saku most likely will be moved this offseason.
HFTO
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Post by Vinna on Feb 17, 2008 18:46:31 GMT -5
I say yes to Havlat. He has world class skills and isn't the only player who had injury trouble early in his career...right Saku.....
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