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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 16, 2008 14:00:02 GMT -5
According to CHFans, a source from inside the MTL organization stated that Bob Gainey asked Kovy to make a phone call to try and convince a player to come to MTL ... Apparently, it's a big time player. Don't shoot the messenger. www.chfans.com/THF's note: If the player needs to be convinced to come here, I would suggest that the player in question is either a FA or has a NTC. THF |
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Post by PTH on Feb 16, 2008 14:21:05 GMT -5
Logically, this has to be either a Russian or a former teammate of Kovalev's.....
Speculation of Jagr on the CHfans board, though I'd think Fedorov would be more likely and a better fit.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 16, 2008 15:49:44 GMT -5
Straka is UFA at the end of the year.
Jagr has an option at the end of this year ... not sure if it is a club option or Jagr's
I wonder, if this is true, what Koivu thinks ... he was speculated to be turned down by Gainey when he offered to contact player in the off-season, and now Gainey gets Kovalev involved. Interesting.
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Post by blny on Feb 16, 2008 15:50:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not all that tickled by the idea of either Fedorov or Jagr. I see the merits of both. Columbus is one of the best face off teams in the league. Sergei could help us there. Jagr can still produce and could be a good fit with Koivu. Still, neither player really blows my skirt up so to speak.
I agree that if it is the case that the player in question is a UFA to be or has a NTC. It makes sense I suppose that if Kovy is making the call it's someone he's played with.
Ahhh, trade dead line. Gonna be rumours like this for another 10 days.
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 16, 2008 15:57:58 GMT -5
Is it just me , or the link to the web site doesn't work ?
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Post by jkr on Feb 16, 2008 16:30:52 GMT -5
Is it just me , or the link to the web site doesn't work ? Must be you.  Works for me. DOn't know if it's Jagr or Federov because I haven't heard anyone say that these guys have NTC. Jagr doesn't appear to be the dominant force he once was. He just turned 36 yesterady & is averaging less than a PPG. As well he has a year left at over 8 million. I'm not sure who holds the option on the deal & if Washington is still paying some of it. As for Federov, well I wouldn't call him a big name anymore. Also. I think he may be injured. He wasn't playing last night. NHL.com has no stats for him after Jan 17. |
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Post by franko on Feb 16, 2008 16:49:07 GMT -5
Is it just me , or the link to the web site doesn't work ? Must be you. Works for me. DOn't know if it's Jagr or Federov because I haven't heard anyone say that these guys have NTC. Jagr doesn't appear to be the dominant force he once was. He just turned 36 yesterady & is averaging less than a PPG. As well he has a year left at over 8 million. I'm not sure who holds the option on the deal & if Washington is still paying some of it. As for Federov, well I wouldn't call him a big name anymore. Also. I think he may be injured. He wasn't playing last night. NHL.com has no stats for him after Jan 17. Jagr's option kicks in if he gets enough points, otherwise (I'm pretty sure) he's UFA. Washington hopes he doesn't make it, as they are still picking up a sizeable chunk of his contract. Fedorov's on IR, with a concussion. |
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Post by Andrew on Feb 16, 2008 17:08:28 GMT -5
Is it just me , or the link to the web site doesn't work ? Must be you. Works for me. DOn't know if it's Jagr or Federov because I haven't heard anyone say that these guys have NTC. Jagr doesn't appear to be the dominant force he once was. He just turned 36 yesterady & is averaging less than a PPG. As well he has a year left at over 8 million. I'm not sure who holds the option on the deal & if Washington is still paying some of it. As for Federov, well I wouldn't call him a big name anymore. Also. I think he may be injured. He wasn't playing last night. NHL.com has no stats for him after Jan 17. He's still got it in him. His production has dropped since they let his buddy Nylander walk. Perhaps he'd be re-energized alongside fellow countryman Plekanec. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Feb 16, 2008 19:00:30 GMT -5
Kovy making calls...
O'Byrne getting him phone numbers...
Eklund creating rumors...
Carbo denys...
Gainey no comments...
Gillette counting receipts...
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Post by Doc Holliday on Feb 17, 2008 8:37:49 GMT -5
Not sure why you guys feel this would be limited to only Russians or former teammates... A guy like Forsberg, for exemple, would probably appreciate being called by our best player.
As for Fedorov, I'm probably the only one here that would not touch him with a six feet pole... The guy clearly has nothing left the tank, his last 3 seasons have been miserable (for a guy with his salary and expectations) to a point where he even spent time playing defense. He'd be what? A 3rd or 4th liner again? His numbers of the last 2 years were comparable to the great Smolinski... IMO, We need help on the first 2 lines IMO, not more beat up finished players.
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Post by mic on Feb 17, 2008 8:48:50 GMT -5
Not sure why you guys feel this would be limited to only Russians or former teammates... A guy like Forsberg, for exemple, would probably appreciate being called by our best player. And Kovalev has been around long enough (and with various teams) to know quite a few people by now - even non-Russians. |
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Post by franko on Feb 17, 2008 9:28:34 GMT -5
As for Fedorov, I'm probably the only one here that would not touch him with a six feet pole Or a ten foot Ukrainian. You are not alone. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 17, 2008 12:34:23 GMT -5
As for Fedorov, I'm probably the only one here that would not touch him with a six feet pole Or a ten foot Ukrainian. You are not alone. Make that 3 of us. We need secondary scoring and Fedorov won't get us that anymore. THF |
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Post by Roggy on Feb 17, 2008 14:11:06 GMT -5
Bobby Holik. Just read on Canoe.ca where Gainey will be looking for: Ryder has been the topic of trade rumours all season, but if the Canadiens deal, general manager Bob Gainey has said it would likely be for a defensive centre with a record of winning important faceoffs. Really, who knows until it happens. Looking ahead, not back. Going back again to the "expected fit" Knowing what we know about Bob Gainey, about what he has said, his history, his beliefs and so on, I think we’re going to have to look for someone who fits the following criteria: * Would have to be a team that is going to miss the playoffs. Otherwise they wouldn’t be sellers. Atlanta is definitely a bubble team. When does Ryder become a non roster player in the pressbox? Big name lost in Atlanta. Earned that monstrous contract with the Rangers for his leadership and his Stanley Cup winning experience with the Devils in their prime. Was the only Atlanta player to show up for their playoff run last year. Was a big part of the first 2 Devils Cup teams. Again, still lost on an underachieving Atlanta team. He is, finally. Kovalev and Holik played together with the Rangers from 2002 to 2004 when Kovalev was traded to MTL. Atlanta and Montreal have been scouting each other like crazy. Gainey has said he's looking for a faceoff guy. - Saku Koivu - takes 30.5% of Montreal faceoffs, wins 52.72%
- Bobby Holik - takes 31.4% of Atlanta faceoffs, wins 58.25%.
I don't know, it just seems to fit. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 17, 2008 14:15:24 GMT -5
Or a ten foot Ukrainian. You are not alone. Make that 3 of us. We need secondary scoring and Fedorov won't get us that anymore. THF Make that 4 of us. The guy is a 6 million dollar 3rd liner. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 19, 2008 8:00:56 GMT -5
Last year, I had a source tell me that Gainey was very interested in Brad Richards. Brochuishockey.blogspot.com is reporting that Feaster is shopping him at the Naples meetings. Brad has a NTC... who knows...I am just saying... the pieces fit.
I am sure Feaster would be looking for prospects and pics to drop his payroll. We could keep Higgins ... ( which I don't believe he's being offered for Hossa by the way) ...
Food for thought.
THF
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Feb 19, 2008 13:15:08 GMT -5
If this hockey thing doesn't work out for Kovalev he can move to Moncton or India and become a telephone customer service caller.
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Post by Douper on Feb 19, 2008 14:09:36 GMT -5
And the folks in Moncton would like to thank Frank McKenna for all the quality jobs in the 2500 call centres in the city.
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Post by blny on Feb 19, 2008 14:34:06 GMT -5
Last year, I had a source tell me that Gainey was very interested in Brad Richards. Brochuishockey.blogspot.com is reporting that Feaster is shopping him at the Naples meetings. Brad has a NTC... who knows...I am just saying... the pieces fit. I am sure Feaster would be looking for prospects and pics to drop his payroll. We could keep Higgins ... ( which I don't believe he's being offered for Hossa by the way) ... Food for thought. THF There's one big piece that doesn't fit, and that's the $7.8 million that Richards makes per season. No thanks. |
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Post by TheHabsfan on Feb 20, 2008 8:51:46 GMT -5
Last year, I had a source tell me that Gainey was very interested in Brad Richards. Brochuishockey.blogspot.com is reporting that Feaster is shopping him at the Naples meetings. Brad has a NTC... who knows...I am just saying... the pieces fit. I am sure Feaster would be looking for prospects and pics to drop his payroll. We could keep Higgins ... ( which I don't believe he's being offered for Hossa by the way) ... Food for thought. THF There's one big piece that doesn't fit, and that's the $7.8 million that Richards makes per season. No thanks. with the cap going up again next year, and with the departure of deadwood....there's room. |
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 20, 2008 11:03:45 GMT -5
There's one big piece that doesn't fit, and that's the $7.8 million that Richards makes per season. No thanks. with the cap going up again next year, and with the departure of deadwood....there's room. The only departing deadwood whose contracts are expiring this season are Ryder, Streit and Huet. In regards to Richards, he's paid about $2M too much for a PPG forward who had one career season when Martin St. Louis was ripping it up. |
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Post by franko on Feb 20, 2008 11:39:35 GMT -5
The only departing deadwood whose contracts are expiring this season are Ryder, Streit and Huet. And if at least some of those three players accept decent amounts they may be back. |
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 20, 2008 12:02:57 GMT -5
The only departing deadwood whose contracts are expiring this season are Ryder, Streit and Huet. And if at least some of those three players accept decent amounts they may be back. Smolinski and Brisebois will be gone. I forgot about them. |
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Post by blny on Feb 20, 2008 12:37:02 GMT -5
There's one big piece that doesn't fit, and that's the $7.8 million that Richards makes per season. No thanks. with the cap going up again next year, and with the departure of deadwood....there's room. It still leaves us with a noose around our necks. Aside from the 2004 playoffs, Richards hasn't exactly dominated in any way. He's a good player, no doubt, but he's not even remotely worth $7.8 million a season. If someone asked me to take on that contract, I'd be wanting a damn fine draft pick in return as well. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Feb 20, 2008 13:00:23 GMT -5
with the cap going up again next year, and with the departure of deadwood....there's room. It still leaves us with a noose around our necks. Aside from the 2004 playoffs, Richards hasn't exactly dominated in any way. He's a good player, no doubt, but he's not even remotely worth $7.8 million a season. If someone asked me to take on that contract, I'd be wanting a damn fine draft pick in return as well. It's worth mentioning that this is exactly what the cap was intended for. Tampa went crazy throwing money at three guys. They were giddy after a cup win. Not they are paying the price for poor management. We could take Richards if Tpa pays part of his salary or makes a trade like when Gainey let Samaonov go. You have to know when to hold em and know when to fold em, know when to walk away and...... How can Gainey offer Richards $7.8 and plead poverty to Streit. |
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