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Post by franko on Feb 25, 2008 9:18:46 GMT -5
One face or another will move: Jokinen, or Martin. We'll know in just over a day which one. Could be both. If Martin trades Jokinen, it could easily be the last straw. Supposedly Martin is meeting with the owners to discuss Jokinen. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 25, 2008 9:25:44 GMT -5
Skilly, I think Gainey will step up to a point. He apparently doesn't want to tamper too much with the youth on the current roster, but may have to to get a deal done. IMO Florida as a trading partner makes sense. They're still a building team that, aside from Jokinen and Bouwmeester, doesn't have much. It may cost Martin his job, but stocking up on talented youth would be good for the long term. It's a hard sell to the fans of course (although most of their fans resemble green seats). My only qualm with going after Jokinen is what do we do with Koivu? Getting someone like Hossa doesn't tamper with our centers. Adding Olli means we have to shuffle the deck a bit. Does Olli move to the wing? Will he like that? Does Saku move to a third line role? Will he accept that? Adding a Hossa would be the most seamless move imo. I guess the thinkg we are all missing here is that Florida, by dealing a center, may require a center in return ... it is highly possible that a deal for Jokinen could involve Saku Koivu - if Saku waives his NTC, which I would highly doubt - or Tomas Plekanec. Florida would need name recognition in return, or the very least a player that gives the fans some idea where the team is headed. But if Gainey is able to land him and only give up Higgins (or Ryder) from the current roster, I don't think we'll have to worry about which line Saku plays on, because we will have 3 - #1/#2 lines. A-Kosty - Pleky - Kovalev Latendresse - Jokinen-S.Kosty Smolinski - Koivu - Ryder (Higgins) |
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Post by blny on Feb 25, 2008 9:25:59 GMT -5
Could be both. If Martin trades Jokinen, it could easily be the last straw. Supposedly Martin is meeting with the owners to discuss Jokinen. Were I management, I wouldn't be quick to get rid of him. I'm merely regurgitating what I've heard. The Panthers have been a team without vision for a long time. Keenan screwed them long term by trading Luongo for next to nothing. It's going to take time to get things going there, and Martin has done it before. Moving Jokinen hurts short term, but perhaps they need to stock pile. These next two drafts are going to be really deep. If they can move some people and get a lot of high picks they'll be stocked. Their cupboards aren't exactly overflowing. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 25, 2008 10:31:12 GMT -5
If Jokinen is part of a deal, then the Panthers will need to see an immediate on-ice return in addition to some potential down the road. I can't say for sure, but if a deal went down involving Jokinen, the youth going the other way would probably be inserted directly into the Florida lineup. Were you listening to McGuire this morning? He said the same thing: the Panthers need players as well as prospects. Nope. The only stations I get on my little desk radio are local FM stations. No AM at all. And they don't allow streaming on the PC because of bandwidth and security issues. But I wish I had heard him. He's actually tolerable these days. I honestly never heard of the rift here, Franko. Kind of interesting though. Cheers. |
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 25, 2008 13:02:41 GMT -5
Not much today.
Talking about Fletcher's situation, that with all the NTCs not being waived Fletcher might end up looking to deal Steen, Stajan, Wellwood, Antropov-type players.
Doug MacLean says he'd be surprised if Richards was dealt before the deadline. I agree.
Hossa may be looking to close up shop today, instead of waiting until tomorrow.
I swear MacLean is using these spots to promote himself. So many times he starts talking about this or that about his drafting and how he hates Zherdev.
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Post by franko on Feb 25, 2008 13:14:00 GMT -5
Ottawa to Toronto: what stations talk sports/will talk trade deadline? Where should I dial in once I lose AM1200?
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Post by CrocRob on Feb 25, 2008 13:38:45 GMT -5
Toronto is FAN590, and I'm sure there's a FAN affiliate somewhere between.
I'd check out the FAN and TEAM networks, see if they have coverage.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 25, 2008 14:08:00 GMT -5
Ottawa to Toronto: what stations talk sports/will talk trade deadline? Where should I dial in once I lose AM1200? Try also AM 620 Fox National Sports and AM 1410 (will confirm this frequency though) ESPN National Sports. I get them in the truck depending where I am in Kingston at the time. Cheers. |
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 25, 2008 14:22:15 GMT -5
Ottawa to Toronto: what stations talk sports/will talk trade deadline? Where should I dial in once I lose AM1200? Try also AM 620 Fox National Sports and AM 1410 (will confirm this frequency though) ESPN National Sports. I get them in the truck depending where I am in Kingston at the time. Cheers. Try HabsRus... the best |
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 25, 2008 14:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by franko on Feb 25, 2008 16:05:17 GMT -5
Try also AM 620 Fox National Sports and AM 1410 (will confirm this frequency though) ESPN National Sports. I get them in the truck depending where I am in Kingston at the time. Cheers. Try HabsRus... the best You're right . . . and I would . . . except it's very difficult to drive through a snowstorm while looking at a computer screen and cursing wondering what in the world is happening! |
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Post by jkr on Feb 25, 2008 16:34:04 GMT -5
why did you cross out Richards? and there is still Jokinen.  |
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 25, 2008 18:57:19 GMT -5
why did you cross out Richards? and there is still Jokinen. RDS said yesterday that MTL was not on his list of team he would go to |
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Post by HFTO on Feb 25, 2008 21:50:48 GMT -5
maybe he's not on the Habs list so there!
HFTO
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Post by Skilly on Feb 25, 2008 22:21:46 GMT -5
Dan Boyle just re-signed with Tampa Bay .... cross him off all the lists.
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Post by CrocRob on May 15, 2008 12:04:11 GMT -5
Welp.. Kypreos is now claiming that Tucker will be bought out. I wonder if he would come back to Montreal. Despite him being an a-hole, he can play an effective hockey game and could probably teach Latendresse a thing or two. Since he'll be earning 2/3 of his existing contract, it might not take that much to sign him.. and besides, playing in Montreal (with Sundin?  ) could be a way to stick it to Toronto. |
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Post by HabSolute on May 15, 2008 12:13:02 GMT -5
I wonder if he would come back to Montreal. I have the feeling his only words would be :" Where do I sign" But the real question is: "Does Montreal want Tucker back ? and the answers to that IMO is, I doubt it ! but you never know..... Imagine, we win a cup with Sundin and Tucker...... ;D |
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Post by CrocRob on May 15, 2008 12:15:31 GMT -5
I wonder if he would come back to Montreal. I have the feeling his only words would be :" Where do I sign" But the real question is: "Does Montreal want Tucker back ? and the answers to that IMO is, I doubt it ! but you never know..... Imagine, we win a cup with Sundin and Tucker...... ;D Just imagine a line of Begin-Lapierre-Tucker. That in itself would make it worthwhile. |
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Post by jkr on May 15, 2008 13:20:42 GMT -5
I know Tucker was injured for part of last year but I just didn't see him bringing a lot to the table for the Leafs. He's 32 & I think his style of play is, I think, beginning to take its toll.
I would love his abrasiveness for the Habs. Maybe he just needs a fresh start & an incentive laden deal.
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Post by Polarice on May 15, 2008 13:59:08 GMT -5
I have the feeling his only words would be :" Where do I sign" But the real question is: "Does Montreal want Tucker back ? and the answers to that IMO is, I doubt it ! but you never know..... Imagine, we win a cup with Sundin and Tucker...... ;D Just imagine a line of Begin-Lapierre-Tucker. That in itself would make it worthwhile. Best 4th line in the league.  |
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Post by CentreHice on May 15, 2008 17:18:35 GMT -5
Just imagine a line of Begin-Lapierre-Tucker. That in itself would make it worthwhile. Best 4th line in the league. Tucker was ticked that he wasn't getting primo minutes on the PP last season....moved aside to make room for Jason Blake. One could assume from that, that he wouldn't like being a 4th liner. His physical play has also declined....but could it be resurrected on a better team? Anyways...you'd have to keep him at least an elbow-length from Kovalev's locker. |
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Post by jkr on May 15, 2008 19:54:54 GMT -5
Best 4th line in the league. Tucker was ticked that he wasn't getting primo minutes on the PP last season....moved aside to make room for Jason Blake. One could assume from that, that he wouldn't like being a 4th liner. His physical play has also declined....but could it be resurrected on a better team? Anyways...you'd have to keep him at least an elbow-length from Kovalev's locker. If Tucker could play with Peca I guess he could play with Kovalev. |
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on May 16, 2008 3:09:22 GMT -5
Make up a rumor, any rumor, facts not required!
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Post by HabSolute on May 16, 2008 7:10:41 GMT -5
Make up a rumor, any rumor, facts not required! signed: Howard Berger |
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