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Post by gazou78 on Nov 4, 2003 23:39:44 GMT -5
For anyone who watched 110% tonight apparently there is a rumor that Gainey has offered Calgary to pick any 3 habs players they wanted except for Theodore for Iginla.
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Post by montreal on Nov 4, 2003 23:41:37 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOOO Panic moves are not what smart GMs do.
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Post by gazou78 on Nov 4, 2003 23:48:26 GMT -5
Having a first line with Koivu and Iginla would be nice, unless young promising players are traded away like Komi, Ryder, Higgins, etc.. in that case it would be a stupid move indeed...wouldn't mind seeing Audette, Rivet, Perreault Zednik, Juneau, Dackell, Sundstrom go away but that's wishful thinking  |
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Post by wade on Nov 4, 2003 23:48:54 GMT -5
they would pick Koivu, Zednik, and Komi
like my friend said...
110% is 110% bullSaperlipopette!
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Post by gazou78 on Nov 4, 2003 23:52:47 GMT -5
It doesn't come from the debate bone heads(villeneuve, etc..) itself but from the journalist doing the recap of the games and the journalists in general that were in Montreal today
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Post by Thomas on Nov 4, 2003 23:54:36 GMT -5
Ever since the Habs rough stretch (and even before), rumours have been coming from every news outlet. They are aware that Gainey will eventually make a move, they are just trying to second guess him at this point, and hope they are right. Iginla, Jagr, Tanguay, Gauthier etc etc. have all been rumoured. If you look back at the past two years, how many rumours have actually happened. Every trade that has been made seems to come out of left field.
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Post by PTH on Nov 4, 2003 23:57:30 GMT -5
they would pick Koivu, Zednik, and Komi like my friend said... 110% is 110% bullnuts! Pretty much sums up my point of view. I'm actually not sure CGY could afford Saku, but heck, they could easily turn around and trade him elsewhere afterwards. |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Nov 5, 2003 0:14:12 GMT -5
IMO, Koivu and Komo should be just as untouchable as Theo. As for anyone else on the roster, everything seems to be fair game to me. Zednik's goals wouldn't be missed if Iginla is putting up seasons of 40 and 50 goals.
I doubt that we could land Iginla for the garbage that we have disguised as hockey players. But if the trade were to happen, it would provide the Habs with a young thoroughbred in goal, on defense and up front. (Theo, Komo and Iginla respectively).
Another reason why a trade with Calgary seems unlikely is simply for the fact that most of the players that the Habs have don't fit into the Flames' salary structure as well as not being "Darryl Sutter type of guys."
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Post by blaise on Nov 5, 2003 0:26:27 GMT -5
Right now I'd certainly want to hold on to Souray. How could Gainey let him go and be left with a top six D of Brisebois, Rivet, Quintal, Markov, Bouillon, and Hainsey, with Komisarek as a backup?
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Post by Forum Ghost on Nov 5, 2003 0:47:09 GMT -5
Right now I'd certainly want to hold on to Souray. How could Gainey let him go and be left with a top six D of Brisebois, Rivet, Quintal, Markov, Bouillon, and Hainsey, with Komisarek as a backup? Souray would probably be the only Hab player that would be of high value to Sutter. With the trades that Sutter made in the offseason, he's made it obvious that he prefers Alberta boys over other types of players. He wants a team that will play that rugged Western Canadian style of hockey. Sheldon Souray is from Alberta, he comes cheap ($1M) and he is very capable of playing the type of rugged hockey that Sutter would want his players to play. Especially considering the way that #44 has played so far, if a trade were to happen involving Iginla I think that the discussions would begin with the name Sheldon Souray. |
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Post by britten on Nov 5, 2003 2:47:00 GMT -5
Souray for Iginla? In a heartbeat. Take anyone else with him. Bottom line - best player wins. Iginla is the best player on either club, hands down.
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Post by Habfaith on Nov 5, 2003 2:59:45 GMT -5
The FAN 960 in Calgary was talking about a deal where Gainey offered 3 young players for Iggy...I hope their source isn't 110%, based on what you guys have to say about them.
What Calgary is really in need of is scoring. We don't have much to offer outside of Zednik, and his 5 points can't be too atractive. Like Ghost said, Ribs and Perreault aren't exactly "Sutter" type players.
I can't see this happening, but I would love to see us land Iggy for any 3 guys besides Koivu. His slump is temporary.
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Post by Blair320 on Nov 5, 2003 6:46:47 GMT -5
Gainey has offered Calgary to pick any 3 habs players they wanted except for Theodore for Iginla. ha ha. yeah, this one must be true! GMs always say, "yeah, just go ahead and take any three guys you want". What a joke.  |
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Post by blny on Nov 5, 2003 8:00:00 GMT -5
When is a rumour not a rumour? When the creator of it can't even be bothered to put names to it! "... any three ..." |
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 5, 2003 8:22:32 GMT -5
I have no clue why Calgary would even give a second thought to such an offer and I don't think Yvan Martineau is a credible source but I'd rather comment on a bogus rumor than on the team play right now...
Getting a toroughbred for a couple of donkeys is the kind of move the franchise needs. It's not totally far fetched, Ottawa, Philly, Vancouver, Islanders, Colorado, St-Louis, Detroit and many others have benefited from franchise building deals at some point and frankly we won't get out of our misery without gutsy trades that turns our way.
On the back of my mind though, I'm wonderring if Gainey, who loves to manipulate the media, didn't just "plant" this rumor so that the fans have something interesting to toy with while he's working on something else...
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 5, 2003 9:16:27 GMT -5
Less than a month ago (October 8th), the Calgary Flames made a big show of Craig Conroy stepping down, and handing the team captaincy to Jarome Iginla. In front of the press and everything. Future of the franchise, and all that. Please fans, come back and watch us play.
They won't trade Iginla after that.
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Post by Bandit on Nov 5, 2003 9:19:11 GMT -5
I think any trade with Calgary for Iginla would have Zednik for sure, but then who else. I wouldn't want to start trading 1st rounders, because we would become the Calgary Flames. One great player, but never quite enough to get us to the playoffs. Just for speculation sake, how would this look: Zednik, Ryder, Pleks, +2nd for Iginla+3rd or 4th. Or I was thinking replace Pleks +picks for Hainsey and we get Gauthier. I don't know, I'm just throwing names around for fun. There's not much fun in watching games, so may as well have fun speculating!! |
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Post by Bandit on Nov 5, 2003 9:20:58 GMT -5
Was Gainey the one who traded Iginla to the Stars for Nieuwey?
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Post by Doc Holliday on Nov 5, 2003 9:56:23 GMT -5
Was Gainey the one who traded Iginla to the Stars for Nieuwey? I know he was the coach back then but was he the GM ? |
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Post by sergejean on Nov 5, 2003 13:03:56 GMT -5
Players likely to interest Calgary: Souray, Garon, young prospects...
I would propose: Souray, Garon, Hainsey, Perezhogin, 2nd round pick for Iginla Gauthier and perhaps their backup goaltender to replace Garon...
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Post by del on Nov 5, 2003 13:15:51 GMT -5
The only sure thing about rumours of this sort, involving MTL, is that they are the best source of info as to what's not going to happen.
Funny how rumours of this ilk always seem to involve the other teams franchise player.
Must have been a slow day at the office!
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Post by pawelo on Nov 5, 2003 14:19:42 GMT -5
funny how this trade would not get rid of the problems on the team but rather trade away players who until now have been considered the building blocks of the future. Markov this Markov that, Zednik this Zednik that now everyone on all different kind of message boards are all getting excited about trading these guys away. Look at Iginla in Cgy he has no one to play with what makes you guys think that when he comes to Mtl he's going to light it up. With who? Koivu, (love the guy) but he is hurt 50% of the time, Ribs, he is coming around but not yet, Perreault? please people relax, this rumour has been going around since last yr.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Nov 5, 2003 15:35:32 GMT -5
Would never happen, but do you do this deal?
To MTL: Iginla, Gauthier
To CGY: Markov, Zednik, Hossa
Tough call but I'd do it. Gauthier adds a physical element we're missing other than Souray and Hainsey could replace Markov as the trigger man. Plus we still have Breezy to play the PP role. And I would trade Zednik and Hossa for Iginla in a nanosecond. I think these are the kind of hard-nosed players Gainey would like to see more of in Montreal.
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Post by Forum Ghost on Nov 5, 2003 17:30:40 GMT -5
I know he was the coach back then but was he the GM ? Jarome Iginla was traded to the Calgary Flames on Dec. 19th 1995. At that time Gainey was both GM and coach of the Stars. Gainey, 49, served as the Stars' general manager for 10 seasons from 1992-2002, holding the dual role of coach and general manager from 1992-1996. Having been appointed head coach of the Minnesota North Stars on June 19, 1990, Gainey led Minnesota to the 1991 Stanley Cup Finals. He relinquished his head coaching duties on January 8, 1996. www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story.asp?ID=43137&hubName=nhl-canadiens |
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Post by Forum Ghost on Nov 5, 2003 17:33:20 GMT -5
Less than a month ago (October 8th), the Calgary Flames made a big show of Craig Conroy stepping down, and handing the team captaincy to Jarome Iginla. In front of the press and everything. Future of the franchise, and all that. Please fans, come back and watch us play. They won't trade Iginla after that. Although I agree with you that after all of the enthusiasm that surrounded naming Iginla captain, it would be very foolish for the Flames to trade him... we do have to consider that all of that hoopla was before he was on pace for a 52pt season. |
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Post by haborama on Nov 5, 2003 23:47:23 GMT -5
Would never happen, but do you do this deal? To MTL: Iginla, Gauthier To CGY: Markov, Zednik, Hossa Tough call but I'd do it. Gauthier adds a physical element we're missing other than Souray and Hainsey could replace Markov as the trigger man. Plus we still have Breezy to play the PP role. And I would trade Zednik and Hossa for Iginla in a nanosecond. I think these are the kind of hard-nosed players Gainey would like to see more of in Montreal. I agree. I'd do it. Zednik and Hossa for Iginla. We win huge here. Markov for Gauthier. We lose big. Losing Markov would really hurt, but adding a guy like Iginla would sure ease the pain. You have to give something to get something. |
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Post by Cranky on Nov 5, 2003 23:59:15 GMT -5
Main Entry: 1ru·mor Pronunciation: 'rü-m&r<br>Function: noun Etymology: Middle English rumour, from Middle French, from Latin rumor clamor, gossip; akin to Old English rEon to lament, Sanskrit rauti he roars Date: 14th century 1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source 2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth 3 archaic : talk or report of a notable person or event  |
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Post by AH on Dec 30, 2003 12:57:30 GMT -5
This blurb may not belong in this thread ... but it appears Iginla is available. www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/hockey/nhl/7583973.htmI don't know what that says about Clarke revealing such information, but nonetheless Jarome is available. And I stand by my prediction that he will be a non-tendered UFA come July 1st. I don't see any team wanting him for $7 million next season. If he accepts a pay cut in the neighbourhood of $5 million, then that's a different story ... |
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Post by jkr on Dec 30, 2003 16:36:15 GMT -5
I can't see this happening - especially with the way the Flames are playing. Despite what they say in Totonto, Calgary is now the hottest team in the league.
Why would Stter seriously tamper with what he has going now?
Calgary can qualify Iginla for the same amount he is making now ( 7 million I heart on Hot Stove). With one or two playoff rounds, they may be able to afford that.
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Post by blaise on Dec 30, 2003 16:37:59 GMT -5
I don't mind, just so long as Iginla doesn't wind up in the East with any team other than the Habs. I wouldn't want to see him in Toronto, Philadelphia, Boston, or the Rangers.
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