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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 16, 2014 21:37:51 GMT -5
Thank you Dale Weise!
Possibly Danny Briere's best game as a Hab. He was tough on the puck all night.
Welcome back Josh Gorges.
Friday is huge.
Cheers.
Edit: Markov with 33:41 TOI, Subban 30:24 and Emelin 30:08
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Post by Disp on Apr 16, 2014 21:39:46 GMT -5
Totally deserved that. Sure there were mistakes, but usually price won't follow the 25% rule (Torts).
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Post by Polarice on Apr 16, 2014 21:40:13 GMT -5
Great game!!
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2014 21:43:57 GMT -5
As soon as weise scored I switched to cbc to listen to the anguish in their voice.
The boys played hard tonight. Carey will tighten up the next game and we will take control.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2014 21:44:33 GMT -5
Despite the mistakes, that was a fun game.
Huge win, especially after you dominate. Great effort.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 21:44:35 GMT -5
Wow.
I was critical of Price for not making any timely saves (4 goals on 14 shots? Ouch). But he has his Grant Fuhr moment in OT: didn't give up the next one. A lot of our forwards had great games tonight: Briere, Plekanec, even Eller (his first NHL playoff goal FINALLY). Attaboy Dale Weise. Playoffs are about unlikely heroes, and he's certainly one of them tonight.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2014 21:45:14 GMT -5
Love Berg's jig!!
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2014 21:46:29 GMT -5
Credit where credit is due
Briere played his best game of the season.
I thought all 4 forward lines looked reasonably good. All generated chances. All showed they could handle the Tampa defense.
Carey struggled during the first 60, but made his best saves in the OT.
Things to address Price needed to be better in the first 60. I'm sure he knows it.
Weaver had a tough game, got caught 'in between' on a couple of plays. I hate the third pairing. Too small, too much on their heels.
Powerless play has been, and continues to be, horrid. 5-0n-5 they did it right. Pucks deep, pucks on net from everywhere. PP needs the same. I still think the coaches need to overhaul the groups. Put a forward on each group who's entire focus is to get on the d and force turnovers. If they won't do that, use the 3rd and 4th lines on the PP. They're more apt to keep it simple, which is what the team needs.
Reaction Fix the mistakes that were self inflicted, and we should win. Lindback can't see pucks when they get in close and he doesn't catch/hold the puck well at all.
Bergevin's reaction to the winner was pretty funny. Good jig in the team suite.
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Post by Bones on Apr 16, 2014 21:47:30 GMT -5
So relieved to win this one, we surely deserved it. Big props to everyone, including Therrien, the team was definitely ready to play and stuck to a good system. Clearly the better team tonight.
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2014 21:49:43 GMT -5
I don't want Price to beat or tie Roy's OT record -- I want us to win the nest 15 in regulation!
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2014 21:51:34 GMT -5
Tinordi needs to play. and what's with PK -- did MT whip everything out of him?
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2014 22:00:33 GMT -5
Tinordi needs to play. and what's with PK -- did MT whip everything out of him? I said in another thread Franko....mt has broken PK... he has lost all creativity and he is always hesitating... he's thinking too much and he's just not playing the game his way.
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Post by frozone on Apr 16, 2014 22:01:20 GMT -5
Despite the mistakes, a lot of guys elevated their games. Great to see!
I'm not too worried about Weaver's game tonight. Its pretty common for players (defensemen especially) to have to adjust to the faster pace and tighter checking. Prust will get better too. On the other hand, I am worried about Bouillon... although he did make a few nice plays tonight.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 16, 2014 22:03:32 GMT -5
We dominated! That was a great game to watch. But don't know if I can handle 2 months of that.
Stamkos is their key but he can't do it all. He should be shadowed.
I don't fault Carey at all. Don't care about save %. None of those goals were soft and he was getting little action. Lindbach was shaky and lucky.
Weaver looked like a Panther tonight. He's a veteran? What's with the pinch with a one goal lead late in the game? If Tinordi had done that he would have been stapled to the bench. Booboo also looked like a Panther! We need tiniordi as he's better than those 2 and TB will crank up the rough stuff!
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Post by HFTO on Apr 16, 2014 22:10:06 GMT -5
First time in years had to watch during the hockey draft I was in...got home for Ot which was stressful thought for sure their luck had run out several times. Price will be better if the boys clean up the turnovers and odd man situations they have a real chance to do serious damage if they keep that same intensity Intensity and hard play was the key too often they try and just get by would have been a shame to lose that but they didn't...Go habs
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2014 22:15:31 GMT -5
btw, afaiac that's the way a game should be won -- or lost. none of that shootout garbage.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 16, 2014 22:19:43 GMT -5
Tinordi needs to play. and what's with PK -- did MT whip everything out of him? I said in another thread Franko....mt has broken PK... he has lost all creativity and he is always hesitating... he's thinking too much and he's just not playing the game his way. Wholeheartedly agree. Hasn't had a goal in almost 20 gamers and only a few assists. Although i thought tonight was one of his better games in the past few months. some good hits, some good passes and some spinoramas at the blue line. Still needs to be more of a force in the offensive zone - hopefully it's coming!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 16, 2014 22:20:03 GMT -5
Stamkos is their key but he can't do it all. He should be shadowed. Where's Bob Gainey (the player) when you need him? I thought Carey Price played well enough that we should have won on that. However, those two mistakes were huge and Price was basically hung out to dry on both of them. Our club can take out the Lightning but they made it hard on themselves tonight and it was avoidable. Cheers.
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Post by stoat on Apr 16, 2014 22:38:02 GMT -5
I don't want Price to beat or tie Roy's OT record -- I want us to win the nest 15 in regulation! What do you have against Price? Wouldn't you like him to win 31 straight playoff games in OT? I'm a Hab fan, not so much a Roy fan. I didn't appreciate his bailing out on the Habs and demanding a trade. I applauded his winning those 10 straight OT games in 1993 because it brought the Cup to Montréal, not because it brought him personal glory.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2014 22:44:03 GMT -5
Just saw the highlights...happy for Weise.
Keep it goin', boys....
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Post by HFTO on Apr 16, 2014 22:47:03 GMT -5
Tinordi and Beaulieu could play....Boo Boo has to sit even Weaver was so so tonight...give me some size and a puck mover over our elder smurf D-men
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Post by stoat on Apr 16, 2014 22:55:54 GMT -5
Stamkos is their key but he can't do it all. He should be shadowed. Where's Bob Gainey (the player) when you need him? I thought Carey Price played well enough that we should have won on that. However, those two mistakes were huge and Price was basically hung out to dry on both of them. Our club can take out the Lightning but they made it hard on themselves tonight and it was avoidable. Cheers. They'll be able to review their mistakes and avoid many of them. I don't know what the Lightning can do about theirs. Their D made it easy. I was glad to see Vanek get a goal in his first playoff game as a Hab. I'll bet no one predicted that Weise would score the OT winner on an assist by Briere. It seems to have baffled and disappointed a lot of fans in Ottawa, Toronto, Boston, and TB who all claimed to have been watching Anaheim vs. Dallas.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 16, 2014 23:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2014 23:42:00 GMT -5
Certainly there were mistakes and I can't say Carey made any huge errors on the shots that beat him (not sure about Stamkos' first. He was at a really bad angle and shots from there shouldn't go in). Having said that, there were some plays in OT where he made those timely saves. That's what he does, I just wish he'd done it earlier. Hopefully, he'll keep the OT Carey going and not the Regulation Carey. I think a lot of guys got the jitters out of the way, so the next game should be less mistake prone all around. Tampa's defense, which is suppposed to be the equal of ours, looked much weaker today. Gudas got fooled by a simple fake shot, they got suckered behind the net on the OT goal (3 guys!), and let Briere win the puck battle . They also had Vanek covered and then didn't on his goal, and one of them looked pretty silly on Eller's goal, which wasn't that great a deke, either. So we benefited from some poor decisions on their back end, and a really weak goaltending performance. We can't expect that kind of help each game, so ratcheting our own game up a notch is required. We can roll 4 lines with anyone, though I'd feel a whole bunch better with Galchenyuk in the mix. Bourque made a good play when the puck hit the back boards. He lifted the dman's stick so the puck came out in front, and then he fanned on the shot. His hand eye coordination is horrible. Galchy not only makes contact, he roofs that shot. Gionta and Eller are playing well, though, so that line isn't a total mess. I'm worried about Bouillon as well (not so much Weaver, he'll be fine). We've seen it throughout the year, after a good rest, Cube plays well. When he plays games close together (such as Friday's game following a Wednesday game), he'll be fatigued and make mistakes. He made one excellent play on a quick Tampa transition, not allowing the forward to skate away from him for a breakaway. He may be the only dman on our team who could have kept up and he played it perfectly. The one thing that Tampa does really, really well is transition. They move from defense to offense in the blink of an eye. Their system has players in the right places to make a lot of one touch passes and generate offense on the rush. Our guys didn't overreact, though and we didn't give up a lot of odd man situations. I will repeat what I said earlier. We have to finish our checks on Salo. He's a solid defenseman for Tampa, but he always gets injured at crucial times for his team (just ask any Canuck fan). I understand Palat left the game after the early part of the third, so he obviously wasn't healthy enough to play today and it was a leap of faith. I hope he aggravated it even further. I don't dislike the guy but I'll take every advantage I can get. Nice to see Briere rewarded for his hard work today and Weise showed that he has a bit of skill besides speed. He made a nice, high shot on Lindback that went in off the chest protector. Carey probably would have stopped that. Good on Weise, though and good on Michel Bournival, who played an energetic game and won a lot of puck battles.
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Post by UberCranky on Apr 17, 2014 0:59:39 GMT -5
If we didn't win, there is a pile of stuff we did wrong. Markov wss pissing me off, PK has lost his balls, Price let in two sub par ghouls, too many flat feet and a bit of ice grazing.....but we won and that is all that counts.
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 17, 2014 1:11:01 GMT -5
How about a tip of the hat to Captain Gio! Played a great game at both ends and had some bite!
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Post by Skilly on Apr 17, 2014 5:24:08 GMT -5
Tinordi needs to play. and what's with PK -- did MT whip everything out of him? I said in another thread Franko....mt has broken PK... he has lost all creativity and he is always hesitating... he's thinking too much and he's just not playing the game his way. Broke him? I think he gave him a lobotomy. There was a play in the third period where I threw something at my TV, huffing and puffing that PK had lost absolutely ALL his hockey IQ. It was late in the third period, about 2 minutes left in the game. PK corrals the puck, skates toward our blueline, then he turns to skate parallel to our blueline(puck still not out) then does one of his twisty - turnies and loses the puck and the Ligthning player beats him to the puck, and PK rightfully forces him behind the right side (Carey's left) of the net, then cuts in front of Carey and chases the guy behind the net. When the lightning saw him pass in front of Carey he stopped hard, turrned and came on in front of Price for a great scoring chance as PK was trailing behind him well out of the play. I was dumbfounded .... I actually started contemplating if trading Subban for Evander Kane and Byfuglien was the way to go.
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Post by franko on Apr 17, 2014 5:52:32 GMT -5
I don't want Price to beat or tie Roy's OT record -- I want us to win the nest 15 in regulation! What do you have against Price? Wouldn't you like him to win 31 straight playoff games in OT? I'm a Hab fan, not so much a Roy fan. I didn't appreciate his bailing out on the Habs and demanding a trade. I applauded his winning those 10 straight OT games in 1993 because it brought the Cup to Montréal, not because it brought him personal glory. don't have anything against Price . . . ah, I see . .. I'm not wanting Roy's record safe because of Roy but because of my heart -- I don't think I could take 10 OT games Instead, let's have the Hab score 5 goals a night and TBay then whoever 2 or less [many less]. So I say let Roy keep his OT record and Carey beat Martin Brodeur's record for shutouts in one playoffs [7] or Terry Sawchucks' GA average in one playoffs [.63 -- yes that's 0.63!]
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 17, 2014 7:40:05 GMT -5
Were it not for Weaver having a rather atrocious 2nd and 3rd period Bergevin would have looked like a genius last night. Weise, Vanek, Briere, all key contributors. Almost looked like Bergevin knows what he is doing... not counting the Blue Suit Bergy Boogie of course (though I expect to see quite a few of those in the stands for Game 3).
Some random thoughts:
* Bit of a coach's nightmare for sure, for both sides. Defensemen pinching and getting caught all over the place, for both teams. Fun to watch, but horrible from a technical standpoint.
* Couple of paraphrased quotes from Weise on his winner: "I knew I wasn't going to miss from there. I got down on one leg, the old Brett Hull, and I just ripped it." And followed up with "I'm not going to miss too many from there." He may need a bigger helmet for the next game!
* Weaver and Bouillon had problems. If they, Weaver in particular, don't tighten that up Cooper is going to be all over the pairing in a match-up battle next game. I say Weaver in particular because I sort of expected Bouillon to play that way. I thought Weaver, based on the way he played down the stretch, would be able to carry him. One thing to remember though; Weaver has only played 11 career NHL playoff games. Despite his age he may have been overly nervous. Hopefully he'll settle down, because we can't have our top three defensemen playing over 30 minutes and expect a long playoff run.
* Speaking of top three defensemen, I think Subban is hurt. He doesn't seem to have the same "zip" to his stride, and indeed he's lost a couple of races for pucks of late. I'm going to guess groin.
* Lindback was who we thought he was; pucks him, he's good. Otherwise he gives up a lot of rebounds and has holes. Does Bishop start Game 2? It would not surprise me.
* Price was who many people thought he was; a goalie who cracks a little bit in the playoffs. Until the overtime that is. I wouldn't say you could necessarily fault him for any of the goals, but an elite, Vezina candidate probably stops at least two of them. Great saves for sure, but that's what elite, Vezina candidate goalies do. I expect he will be better.
* Eller, Bourque and Gionta hit the scoresheet and had some chances, but they were also the line most likely to get penned in their own zone all night. If Cooper is going to play a matchup game I would expect this is the line he will try to get Stamkos out against.
All in all winning the first game on the road is huge. You want to get a split on the road, but even if you don't there is the old adage that you aren't really in trouble until you lose at home. So even if they had of lost last night they still would have had Game 2 to reach their "split" goal, and even if they didn't get THAT goal they still had two in the Bell Centre to rectify things. So I don't think the pressure would have been that great. Now, however, the pressure on TAMPA is huge. Montreal has already done what they wanted to do, they can play loose. Tampa though CANNOT go down two heading onto the road. It's not quite a "must-win" for them, but it's the next closest thing. If Lindback starts again he's REALLY going to have to be on his game. If he does start though I expect it to be a much, much tighter checking game. 2-1 score sort of thing.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 17, 2014 7:52:08 GMT -5
I can't imagine what it was like in the Wiese household last night in OT. His dad is a huge Habs fan and was thrilled when Dale was traded to the Habs. It must have been insane.
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