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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 23:17:14 GMT -5
Weak penalty call lead to the tying goal, and a whiff by Markov which lead to the game winner with under 30 seconds left.
The slow starts nonetheless still continue. Is this a slump, or how our team looks when it's down to earth?
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Post by 24in93 on Dec 5, 2014 23:19:22 GMT -5
That's a painful loss. No other way to put it. It was a bit of a track meet but we had the better goalie and should have won this one.
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Post by jkr on Dec 5, 2014 23:21:37 GMT -5
I'll post the same thing I did in the game thread. The refeering was incomprehensible. How does Subban hook a guy with one hand on his stick?? And I guess hits from behind & slashing the stick out of a guys hands are OK now. Complete bull sh!t officiating played a role in this loss. These a-holes don't have to answer for anything. Just screw up a game & walk away. And the most experienced guy on the team gives the game away. Can't play those rookies on D though.
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Post by stoat on Dec 5, 2014 23:21:43 GMT -5
I felt in my bones that the Habs were going to win after they scored the tying goal. I guess my bones can't tell fortunes.
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Post by franko on Dec 5, 2014 23:23:59 GMT -5
that one just hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 23:24:20 GMT -5
These a-holes don't have to answer for anything. Just screw up a game & walk away. The league likes to absolve everything under the "it's a fast game" pretext. Meanwhile they are arrogant enough to go up to a player and say, "That's a penalty for everybody else but you." Maybe if we have a few superstars in our line-up, we'll get those calls.
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Post by folatre on Dec 5, 2014 23:30:45 GMT -5
It was a wide open game with bad officials. But the bottom line is Habs slump continues.
More than third into season, it seems like the old d-corps, the too few guys with top 6 productivity, and the overall lack of forward depth top to bottom are becoming as big of worries as the power play.
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Post by jkr on Dec 5, 2014 23:34:38 GMT -5
It was a wide open game with bad officials. But the bottom line is Habs slump continues. More than third into season, it seems like the old d-corps, the too few guys with top 6 productivity, and the overall lack of forward depth top to bottom are becoming as big of worries as the power play. They stick with the old D men & where does it get them? Markov with a major screw up to give away the game. Where's the harm in playing Beaulieu & Tinordi. Let them learn on the job & maybe they won't toss away a game in the final minute. EDIT: I just looked at the NHL.com summary. Even though Markov handed the puck right to Saad, the official scorer in Chicago manages to find two assists.Bogus hometown scoring.
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Post by blny on Dec 5, 2014 23:41:50 GMT -5
Tough loss. Lost Eller to an upper body injury. Didn't see what happened. First periods still an issue. Persistent digging of holes.
Andrighetto called up tonight.
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Post by jkr on Dec 5, 2014 23:44:57 GMT -5
Tough loss. Lost Eller to an upper body injury. Didn't see what happened. First periods still an issue. Persistent digging of holes. Andrighetto called up tonight. Eller collided with Versteeg. didn't look like much when it happened.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 5, 2014 23:51:47 GMT -5
It's this type of game that make the losses to Buffalo even more painful.
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Post by habsorbed on Dec 5, 2014 23:59:07 GMT -5
First of all: love the '4' on the jerseys!
Second: i'm pissed. I blame this on MT. What the heck is DD doing out there in the last minute? We're in Chicago. Get the point. Play DD in OT a full 5 minutes for all i care. But get the point. DD against Toews is no contest.
I've said it before and we saw it again tonight: Max has a low hockey IQ. All he has to do is rag the puck and keep it behind the Hawks net with less than a minute to go. Get the point. But he decides to feed Wiese. Good scoring chance but dumb play given the situation.
Get the point and take our chances in OT. Doesn;t matter if Hawks get the point in regulation. But it does mater that we got nothing. DUMB!!!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 6, 2014 0:22:54 GMT -5
It was a wide open game with bad officials. But the bottom line is Habs slump continues. More than third into season, it seems like the old d-corps, the too few guys with top 6 productivity, and the overall lack of forward depth top to bottom are becoming as big of worries as the power play. That's the bottom line right now ... the slump continues ... I thought the Hawks looked beatable tonight ... we lost in the last 30 seconds, but we didn't do all that bad ... I only saw half the game but I thought we carried a lot of the play ... a finisher would a good add ... Cheers.
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Post by stoat on Dec 6, 2014 2:17:46 GMT -5
It was a wide open game with bad officials. But the bottom line is Habs slump continues. More than third into season, it seems like the old d-corps, the too few guys with top 6 productivity, and the overall lack of forward depth top to bottom are becoming as big of worries as the power play. That's the bottom line right now ... the slump continues ... I thought the Hawks looked beatable tonight ... we lost in the last 30 seconds, but we didn't do all that bad ... I only saw half the game but I thought we carried a lot of the play ... a finisher would a good add ... Cheers. It was a shame the Habs lost but they didn't play shamefully. They came back from a 2-0 deficit and actually took the lead against one of the elite NHL teams. It took some of the sting out of the 5-0 trouncing but it didn't help in the standings. I agree that the officiating was awfully sour-tasting.
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Post by jkr on Dec 6, 2014 7:36:09 GMT -5
this is the 2nd time in a week (in Buffalo with 1:18 to go) that they have thrown away points in the final seconds. That's at least two ( maybe even 4)important points in the standings.
Agree with Habsorbed's points. In the final minute of a tie game get your most responsible people out there - guys who know what to do. That's on the coaches. Coaches are supposed to put their players in positions to succeed.
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Post by Disp on Dec 6, 2014 7:54:15 GMT -5
Both teams played this loosy-goosy. In a game played in that fashion the end result is a toss up. I like that we generated quite a few chances, but our play around Carey in the house was terrible. We are playing oiler-like defence lately, good thing our goalie isn't oiler-like.
Disagree about the Max/Weise play. He was open and damn near scored. If that trickles in he's a hero and nobody is complaining.
The officiating was worse than usual, but the bar isn't very high anyways.
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Post by CentreHice on Dec 6, 2014 11:00:53 GMT -5
Falling behind again….fighting back….we were winning these games early in the season. How many times did we post, "Start the car…."? Quite a few.
The table has turned…and likely isn't coming back around. Officials will always be a factor. But bad coaching decisions are inexcusable. Pretty much the way I thought these 5 games would go after the loss to Buffalo last Friday.
1-2-1 now.
3-5-1 in our last 9.
Good thing Boston lost all 3 out west.
EDIT: Just saw the highlights…and on the winner, there's DD gliding in from the blue line, watching, as Saad fires it in. He'd stopped taking strides around centre.
Nice effort on the backcheck.
That kind of stuff always infuriates me.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 6, 2014 13:35:27 GMT -5
I didn't see the game, but in general our backcheck from the forwards has been awful, going back a lot of games. Early in the season, Galchenyuk and the right winger on that line allowed a defenseman to join the rush and they scored on us. It goes back right to the beginning of the season. Backchecking is a critical part of the game and we're doing a horrible job of it. Defensemen can look like Orr if the forwards backcheck. It takes a half dozen options away from the attacking forward and makes it easy for the d-man to play him. We're just not doing it well.
I bet, if you looked at the better teams in the league, you'd see their forwards coming back hard. That's work, effort and good coaching.
I watched the highlights and wonder, on Chicago's winning goal, if fatigue didn't play into it. Markov is usually pretty good with his puck control, but he played 25 minutes last night and has been playing about that number most nights. It's too much for a 36 year old. As the game wears on, he's going to make more mistakes than he would at 20-22 minutes a night. And yes, what do you do, because you don't trust many of the other guys to play those extra minutes?
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