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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 17, 2015 10:31:53 GMT -5
A good birthday win for this guy! Bonus was the Dogs won too, and potted a rare 7 goals in the process.
Ching, ching!!
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Post by BadCompany on Feb 17, 2015 10:31:58 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. I think Kessel gets a very bad rep for what he is NOT, as opposed to getting credit for what he is. He is not, nor will he ever be, a team leader, a great media quote, an easy guy to get along with. He will float. He will set bad examples for the kids. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. He will also be a Top 10 scorer in the league. Usually anyways. And that's pretty good. Very good actually. And we certainly need THAT Kessel. The problem is this is Montreal, and like Montreal he will get eaten alive for everything he is not. Which in a way is kind of unfair. Put him in Anaheim, or LA, or Tampa, or Chicago, or even Detroit, and I think people will be amazed at how "magically" transformed he is. I don't think he will change at all, but with a different mindset, other leaders, other team "faces" for the media and the fans the focus won't be just on him. He will thrive, and be a Top 10 scorer again. I don't know if we have enough shiny bells here in Montreal to distract the masses enough for Kessel to be left alone to do his thing. If he could be had cheapish then I would certainly consider it. I'm not as afraid of Kessel as others are. But I doubt Toronto wants to trade him here, and like I said I think some other teams like those mentioned above will be willing to offer up better packages. Definitely worth kicking some tires for though.
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 17, 2015 11:06:49 GMT -5
A shutout at the Joe Lewis is no easy task ... Chapeau!! I was reading first Habs goalie..EVER... to have a shutout at Joe Louis wow, hard to believe...
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2015 11:11:56 GMT -5
A shutout at the Joe Lewis is no easy task ... Chapeau!! I was reading first Habs goalie..EVER... to have a shutout at Joe Louis wow, hard to believe... Never knew this HS ... thanks mate ... Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 17, 2015 11:21:46 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. Yes it would. Character issues aside, yes, we could do with his 30 goals. But there are two glaring obstacles for me. He has never been a + player in Toronto. He is -65 since joinging the Leafs. That is not the kind of player we need in Montreal. Every single skater on Montreal back-checks, and for the most part, give defense a 100% effort. Next is his contract. An 8 million cap hit isn't so bad. But he is due $32 million over the next three seasons. The trading partners for Kessel based on that alone are very few, ..., possibly just Montreal, New York and LA. Not really sure where the Florida rumours are coming from, but I guess they have money stashed somewhere all of a sudden. So why would we get Toronto out of that mess of a contract, AND give them assets. I suppose if the price is right ... but we made this mistake before with Gomez. The rumours are floating names like Tinordi, Bournival and Eller (and our first rounder of course) ... I'd prefer to stay away from Kessel.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 17, 2015 11:29:46 GMT -5
A shutout at the Joe Lewis is no easy task ... Chapeau!! I was reading first Habs goalie..EVER... to have a shutout at Joe Louis wow, hard to believe... Price is the first Habs goalie to post a shutout at Joe Louis Arena since March 27, 1977 (Michel "Bunny" Larocque)
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Post by HabSolute on Feb 17, 2015 11:33:13 GMT -5
I was reading first Habs goalie..EVER... to have a shutout at Joe Louis wow, hard to believe... Price is the first Habs goalie to post a shutout at Joe Louis Arena since March 27, 1977 (Michel "Bunny" Larocque) They say Larocque was at the Olympia.... Never been done at the Joe Louis
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Post by jkr on Feb 17, 2015 11:40:09 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. Yes it would. Character issues aside, yes, we could do with his 30 goals. But there are two glaring obstacles for me. He has never been a + player in Toronto. He is -65 since joinging the Leafs. That is not the kind of player we need in Montreal. Every single skater on Montreal back-checks, and for the most part, give defense a 100% effort. Next is his contract. An 8 million cap hit isn't so bad. But he is due $32 million over the next three seasons. The trading partners for Kessel based on that alone are very few, ..., possibly just Montreal, New York and LA. Not really sure where the Florida rumours are coming from, but I guess they have money stashed somewhere all of a sudden. So why would we get Toronto out of that mess of a contract, AND give them assets. I suppose if the price is right ... but we made this mistake before with Gomez. The rumours are floating names like Tinordi, Bournival and Eller (and our first rounder of course) ... I'd prefer to stay away from Kessel. Maybe someone could get Toronto to pick up some of that salary but for the reasons you stated I'm not interested either.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 17, 2015 11:40:10 GMT -5
Price is the first Habs goalie to post a shutout at Joe Louis Arena since March 27, 1977 (Michel "Bunny" Larocque) They say Larocque was at the Olympia.... Never been done at the Joe Louis Ahhh my bad ... I should have looked up when Joe Louis opened its doors. Last shutout in Detroit was March 27, 1977. It's not all that surprising though. We werent in the same conference for decades and played each other very little.
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Post by jkr on Feb 17, 2015 11:42:22 GMT -5
Price is the first Habs goalie to post a shutout at Joe Louis Arena since March 27, 1977 (Michel "Bunny" Larocque) They say Larocque was at the Olympia.... Never been done at the Joe Louis Wikipedia says the Joe Louis Arena opened in 1979.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2015 12:07:10 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. I don't know if he'd be Bergevin's mold of a character player ... he'd be in the doghouse with Therrien just as soon as let up on a backcheck ... then the media would pick up on it and we'd be right back in the centre of attention for all the wrong reasons ... then the cap hit would come into it ... Bergevin worked hard to remove all of those problems ... if it were up to me I'd pass ... Cheers.
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Post by stoat on Feb 17, 2015 13:08:00 GMT -5
If the playoffs started today it'd be habs v bruins The Habs may not finish first in the Atlantic, although they're going to be a seeded team. The Bruins currently are the second wild card team but they may not qualify for the playoffs. Wouldn't that be a shame?
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Post by stoat on Feb 17, 2015 13:18:17 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. I don't know if he'd be Bergevin's mold of a character player ... he'd be in the doghouse with Therrien just as soon as let up on a backcheck ... then the media would pick up on it and we'd be right back in the centre of attention for all the wrong reasons ... then the cap hit would come into it ... Bergevin worked hard to remove all of those problems ... if it were up to me I'd pass ... Cheers. Despite Kessel's flaws the Habs would have to give up a lot to get him. The loss of those players and prospects would weaken the Habs. On the other hand, the trade would bolster the Leafs. In sum, it's a trade Bergevin is unlikely to make unless the return would consist of spare parts and second tier prospects. Heck, why am I even taking this seriously?
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2015 13:23:55 GMT -5
Heck, why am I even taking this seriously? Ditto man ... Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Feb 17, 2015 14:02:17 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. Yes it would. Character issues aside, yes, we could do with his 30 goals. But there are two glaring obstacles for me. He has never been a + player in Toronto. He is -65 since joinging the Leafs. That is not the kind of player we need in Montreal. Every single skater on Montreal back-checks, and for the most part, give defense a 100% effort. Next is his contract. An 8 million cap hit isn't so bad. But he is due $32 million over the next three seasons. The trading partners for Kessel based on that alone are very few, ..., possibly just Montreal, New York and LA. Not really sure where the Florida rumours are coming from, but I guess they have money stashed somewhere all of a sudden. So why would we get Toronto out of that mess of a contract, AND give them assets. I suppose if the price is right ... but we made this mistake before with Gomez. The rumours are floating names like Tinordi, Bournival and Eller (and our first rounder of course) ... I'd prefer to stay away from Kessel. Absolutely correct!! However, that's on a team that has very poor leadership, very poor defense. Put him in a system like Montreal's with leaders like PK, Price, Markov, Pac etc and the support system they have, we "might" see the type of player he should be. Looking at his =/- isn't fair look at OV, i'm sure 29 teams would be after him if he became available.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2015 14:08:32 GMT -5
Yes it would. Character issues aside, yes, we could do with his 30 goals. But there are two glaring obstacles for me. He has never been a + player in Toronto. He is -65 since joinging the Leafs. That is not the kind of player we need in Montreal. Every single skater on Montreal back-checks, and for the most part, give defense a 100% effort. Next is his contract. An 8 million cap hit isn't so bad. But he is due $32 million over the next three seasons. The trading partners for Kessel based on that alone are very few, ..., possibly just Montreal, New York and LA. Not really sure where the Florida rumours are coming from, but I guess they have money stashed somewhere all of a sudden. So why would we get Toronto out of that mess of a contract, AND give them assets. I suppose if the price is right ... but we made this mistake before with Gomez. The rumours are floating names like Tinordi, Bournival and Eller (and our first rounder of course) ... I'd prefer to stay away from Kessel. Absolutely correct!! However, that's on a team that has very poor leadership, very poor defense. Put him in a system like Montreal's with leaders like PK, Price, Markov, Pac etc and the support system they have, we "might" see the type of player he should be. Looking at his =/- isn't fair look at OV, i'm sure 29 teams would be after him if he became available. Ovie is at +11 so far this year and that comes down to coaching. Could MT do this with a guy like Kessel is the question.
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Post by UberCranky on Feb 17, 2015 15:18:51 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. I think Kessel gets a very bad rep for what he is NOT, as opposed to getting credit for what he is. He is not, nor will he ever be, a team leader, a great media quote, an easy guy to get along with. He will float. He will set bad examples for the kids. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. He will also be a Top 10 scorer in the league. Usually anyways. And that's pretty good. Very good actually. And we certainly need THAT Kessel. The problem is this is Montreal, and like Montreal he will get eaten alive for everything he is not. Which in a way is kind of unfair. Put him in Anaheim, or LA, or Tampa, or Chicago, or even Detroit, and I think people will be amazed at how "magically" transformed he is. I don't think he will change at all, but with a different mindset, other leaders, other team "faces" for the media and the fans the focus won't be just on him. He will thrive, and be a Top 10 scorer again. I don't know if we have enough shiny bells here in Montreal to distract the masses enough for Kessel to be left alone to do his thing. If he could be had cheapish then I would certainly consider it. I'm not as afraid of Kessel as others are. But I doubt Toronto wants to trade him here, and like I said I think some other teams like those mentioned above will be willing to offer up better packages. Definitely worth kicking some tires for though. Why do you do that? Just as I thought that the Habs universe is unfolding in the correct order of things, you thrown in Kessel. No. I want a team guy. I want someone who can play 200 ft and score 20 goals over someone who floats for 100 feet and leaves the team exposed. We are winning on defense. TEAM defense. TEAM DEFENSE. And Jesus Price.
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Post by Polarice on Feb 17, 2015 15:37:06 GMT -5
I think Kessel gets a very bad rep for what he is NOT, as opposed to getting credit for what he is. He is not, nor will he ever be, a team leader, a great media quote, an easy guy to get along with. He will float. He will set bad examples for the kids. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. He will also be a Top 10 scorer in the league. Usually anyways. And that's pretty good. Very good actually. And we certainly need THAT Kessel. The problem is this is Montreal, and like Montreal he will get eaten alive for everything he is not. Which in a way is kind of unfair. Put him in Anaheim, or LA, or Tampa, or Chicago, or even Detroit, and I think people will be amazed at how "magically" transformed he is. I don't think he will change at all, but with a different mindset, other leaders, other team "faces" for the media and the fans the focus won't be just on him. He will thrive, and be a Top 10 scorer again. I don't know if we have enough shiny bells here in Montreal to distract the masses enough for Kessel to be left alone to do his thing. If he could be had cheapish then I would certainly consider it. I'm not as afraid of Kessel as others are. But I doubt Toronto wants to trade him here, and like I said I think some other teams like those mentioned above will be willing to offer up better packages. Definitely worth kicking some tires for though. Why do you do that? Just as I thought that the Habs universe is unfolding in the correct order of things, you thrown in Kessel. No. I want a team guy. I want someone who can play 200 ft and score 20 goals over someone who floats for 100 feet and leaves the team exposed. We are winning on defense. TEAM defense. TEAM DEFENSE. And Jesus Price.It would be nice to win a 5-2 game once in a while!!
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Post by Dschens on Feb 17, 2015 15:39:49 GMT -5
This morning on the 690 they were talking about getting Kessel. The more I think about it, and listen to other opinions.....I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a play for him. Four more years with a cap hit of 8 mill. Thanks, but no thanks. This contract makes him unbearable for our salary structure.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2015 16:55:44 GMT -5
It was their equipment manager's 2000th game. It reminded me of a picture I saw in Ken Dryden's book "The Game". Dryden described this picture as "the happiest picture I have"
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2015 18:54:33 GMT -5
Courtesy of Manton (Facebook)
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