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Post by PTH on Mar 2, 2015 8:58:38 GMT -5
Apparently we just got Petry for a 2nd and a 5th.
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Post by PTH on Mar 2, 2015 8:59:01 GMT -5
Both 2015 picks.
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 8:59:25 GMT -5
I like it!!!
He's a big body Dman and we didn't pay too much.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 2, 2015 9:06:59 GMT -5
TSN says its a second and a third
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Post by Gogie on Mar 2, 2015 9:12:00 GMT -5
2nd and conditional 5th - becomes 4th if Habs win one playoff round this year and 3rd if they reach conference finals.
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 2, 2015 9:25:50 GMT -5
That's a pretty low price considering recent deals. Petry being a UFA probably played into it, but after years in the wasteland that is Edmonton I'm sure he'll be an easy resign should he pan out here.
You can never have enough defensemen, as the saying goes!
Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi)
That's some pretty good depth there. Still be curious to see if one of the current defensemen is shipped out later in the day.
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Post by franko on Mar 2, 2015 9:29:32 GMT -5
That's a pretty low price considering recent deals. Petry being a UFA probably played into it, but after years in the wasteland that is Edmonton I'm sure he'll be an easy resign should he pan out here. You can never have enough defensemen, as the saying goes! Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi) That's some pretty good depth there. Still be curious to see if one of the current defensemen is shipped out later in the day. Is MB going to make Allen available?
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Post by jkr on Mar 2, 2015 9:36:55 GMT -5
FYI - Also being discussed in "Montreal at the deadline" thread in the trades forum.
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Post by Gogie on Mar 2, 2015 9:38:23 GMT -5
That's a pretty low price considering recent deals. Petry being a UFA probably played into it, but after years in the wasteland that is Edmonton I'm sure he'll be an easy resign should he pan out here. You can never have enough defensemen, as the saying goes! Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi) That's some pretty good depth there. Still be curious to see if one of the current defensemen is shipped out later in the day. Read an article in the Edmonton paper from a day or so ago. They were apparently looking for a 2nd and a prospect for Petry. All the talk was about a deal with St. Louis. No mention of the Habs. MB swoops in under the radar once again and steals a bargain (maybe).
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Post by jkr on Mar 2, 2015 9:38:26 GMT -5
TSN says its a second and a third You are being optimistic about that conditional pick.
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 9:44:20 GMT -5
Petry makes our top 6 better. Suddenly Gilbert and Gonchar become 5-6 or 7's. Great deal for a low price.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 2, 2015 9:52:27 GMT -5
Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi) Not doing too bad when Beaulieu/Gonchar are our bottom pairing ... gives Therrien some options ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Mar 2, 2015 10:24:07 GMT -5
Pateryn and Tinordi in Hamilton. Gilbert and Weaver become 7 and 8. It means we can only carry one extra forward until playoff roster expansion. I wonder if Weaver or Gilbert are being shopped.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 2, 2015 10:47:33 GMT -5
Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi) Not doing too bad when Beaulieu/Gonchar are our bottom pairing ... gives Therrien some options ... Cheers. Is Petry really gong to be in the top 4. I think that's optimistic. In my mind he was a so so dman on a terrible team. Just don't see him being anymore than 5 or 6 and depth. Not complaining as we will need that but don't see him top 4.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Mar 2, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -5
Pateryn and Tinordi in Hamilton. Gilbert and Weaver become 7 and 8. It means we can only carry one extra forward until playoff roster expansion. I wonder if Weaver or Gilbert are being shopped. I imagine Therrien had a say in that, BLNY ... and so he should ... Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 2, 2015 10:54:08 GMT -5
He supposedly really improved a lot this year. especially in the last few months. I didn't see him play, so can't comment. I believe his wife really wanted to go somewhere warm (never heard that before about Edmonton), so re-signing him may not be an option. As a rental though, at that price, it should be ok. That's definitely a rental price, not a 'I think we can sign him too, price'.
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Post by Skilly on Mar 2, 2015 11:14:52 GMT -5
That's a pretty low price considering recent deals. Petry being a UFA probably played into it, but after years in the wasteland that is Edmonton I'm sure he'll be an easy resign should he pan out here. You can never have enough defensemen, as the saying goes! Markov - Subban Emelin - Petry Beaulieu - Gonchar (Gilbert, Weaver, Paetryn, Tinordi) That's some pretty good depth there. Still be curious to see if one of the current defensemen is shipped out later in the day. Read an article in the Edmonton paper from a day or so ago. They were apparently looking for a 2nd and a prospect for Petry. All the talk was about a deal with St. Louis. No mention of the Habs. MB swoops in under the radar once again and steals a bargain (maybe). Twitter has been abuzz for over a week that Montreal was interested in Petry.
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Post by Gogie on Mar 2, 2015 11:25:09 GMT -5
Read an article in the Edmonton paper from a day or so ago. They were apparently looking for a 2nd and a prospect for Petry. All the talk was about a deal with St. Louis. No mention of the Habs. MB swoops in under the radar once again and steals a bargain (maybe). Twitter has been abuzz for over a week that Montreal was interested in Petry. I realize that. I was referring to the discussion in an Edmonton Journal article/blog posted last night: If the St. Louis Blues want Jeff Petry, what should the Edmonton Oilers ask back?
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Post by Disp on Mar 2, 2015 13:28:56 GMT -5
It's all over the map in terms value for the last week, this isn't bad, not great or a steal, but I hate giving up anything . Petry will help us, no doubt. It's really hard to get a read on oiler players, they're such a dysfunctional group. He's probably the best dman they had, but that's not saying much. Where he stacks up on another team, I guess we'll see.
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Post by Boston_Habs on Mar 2, 2015 13:31:47 GMT -5
I really know nothing about Petry but I thought more depth on defense was the biggest priority and Bergevin addressed that. And not 3rd pair/scrub type depth but a real quality player that doesn't look out of place in the top 4.
Quality scoring is just too hard and too expensive to get - I think MB is looking at this team, strengths and weaknesses, and came to the conclusion that a deep playoff run is going to be built on Carey Price, a deep and balanced blue line and an offense that is hopefully good enough to get the job done. Relying on Gonchar was a risk, Emelin has struggled this year, so adding another experienced dman was a smart move.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 13:33:21 GMT -5
We seem to give up a lot of picks in these trades...
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Post by blny on Mar 2, 2015 13:36:26 GMT -5
We seem to give up a lot of picks in these trades... Tampa gave up more to get Coburn. Winnik got as good, or better, a return. As far as it relates to other trades this year, I think Berg made out well in this one.
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Post by Douper on Mar 2, 2015 13:55:35 GMT -5
We seem to give up a lot of picks in these trades... Tampa gave up more to get Coburn. Winnik got as good, or better, a return. As far as it relates to other trades this year, I think Berg made out well in this one. I agree. For what MB gave and what he got. Fine by me.
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Post by blny on Mar 2, 2015 13:58:04 GMT -5
Wrong thread ooops
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 13:59:19 GMT -5
I really know nothing about Petry but I thought more depth on defense was the biggest priority and Bergevin addressed that. And not 3rd pair/scrub type depth but a real quality player that doesn't look out of place in the top 4. Quality scoring is just too hard and too expensive to get - I think MB is looking at this team, strengths and weaknesses, and came to the conclusion that a deep playoff run is going to be built on Carey Price, a deep and balanced blue line and an offense that is hopefully good enough to get the job done. Relying on Gonchar was a risk, Emelin has struggled this year, so adding another experienced dman was a smart move. I agree. Scoring may struggle in the playoffs, but I think limiting the other team's offense is probably more important. We need guys who are efficient at shutting down the other team's offense and hope that our forwards can pop one in on occasion.
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Post by UberCranky on Mar 2, 2015 14:00:41 GMT -5
I can't see this as a huge upgrade or a difference maker. A scoring forward is far more important.
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Post by stoat on Mar 2, 2015 18:43:16 GMT -5
I can't see this as a huge upgrade or a difference maker. A scoring forward is far more important. Are you too rusty to try out? Pick up a scythe (I mean stick) and have a go at it. I'll take only 1 goal for you to catch up to Malhotra.
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Post by BadCompany on Mar 25, 2015 8:23:15 GMT -5
Yes, yes, premature, but that's just because I get so darn excited.
Chris Tanev just re-signed with the Vancouver Canucks, for five years, $22.25 million, or $4.45 million per season. Compare as we dare:
Tanev: 6'2, 185lbs, shoots right, 25 years old, restricted free agent Petry: 6'3, 200lbs, shoots right, 27 years old, unrestricted free agent
Tanev: 61 games, 2 goals, 14 assists, 16 points, 21:01 minutes per game Petry: 70 games, 4 goals, 11 assists, 15 points, 21:09 minutes per game
Heights and weights to be taken with large grains of salt, and I'll leave the advanced stats comparisons to others.
So given that Tanev signed for $4.45 million, and that Petry is unrestricted in a weak free agency year AND taxes, weather, blah, blah, blah, would a five year, $25 million deal be acceptable, to both him and us? I get that $5 million is almost certainly an overpayment, but this is free agency that we're talking about, he's going to get overpaid. Either by us, or someone else. And for me, spending an extra $500,000 to secure a top four defenseman is an overpayment I could live with. But what say you? Do we pony up, or are we content in letting him walk and attempting to fill his spot from within?
* Fine print disclaimer, I reserve the right to delete this post in it's entirety and deny it ever existed should Petry be a playoff disaster.
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Post by habsorbed on Mar 25, 2015 9:50:41 GMT -5
Given their current play and long term potential, most gms would trade Markov for Petry straight up. so do we still want Markov who's had a good season for another 2 as he gets older, or do we grab the stud who's entering his prime? i love Marlov and he may become a Lidstrom elder but smart money has to be on Petry.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 25, 2015 10:15:57 GMT -5
Given their current play and long term potential, most gms would trade Markov for Petry straight up. so do we still want Markov who's had a good season for another 2 as he gets older, or do we grab the stud who's entering his prime? i love Markov and he may become a Lidstrom elder but smart money has to be on Petry. I love what Markov has been for the habs and want him to retire a hab but wouldn't Beau - Subban Emelin - Petry Tinordi - Pateryn Gilbert Look like a very good, very young D corps. With weaver and gonchar gone it would free up 5.5 of cap. If they moved Markov that would cover any salary Petry would get.It would be a tough decision for MB to make.
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