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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 18, 2003 22:54:15 GMT -5
This year is not a total write off IMO...if these things can be accomplished
-Hainsey keeps getting ice time
-Hossa keeps getting ice time
-System is put in place
-More mediocrety is cleared out
-Hackett is traded for a good package(doubtful)
-Habs can keep Garon in the organization
-Habs can find some line combos that work
-Habs find an identity
-Habs keep getting bigger(already starting with Hainsey and Hossa up)
Plus it's a great draft...
Sure, GG won't be thrilled missing the playoffs with his payroll and all...but sometimes you have to take a step back, to take 2 steps forward.
I certainly feel good about the future of this team...I think we have alot of interesting pieces...and more coming up in the future...like Martin did with Ottawa,hopefully Julien can establish a system where kids can come in and flourish and slowly but surely gain ice time.
Playoffs would be nice, check that VERY NICE once again...but I won't be totally dissapointed if we miss the playoffs and the things I talked about happen.
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Post by MC Habber on Jan 18, 2003 22:58:02 GMT -5
Agreed. As long as missing the playoffs doesn't cost AS his job - not sure a GM change would be in the best interests of the team.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 18, 2003 22:59:38 GMT -5
I agree
AS should not be fired. His resume is pretty good despite some blunders.
GM's need to have 5 years to be evaluated IMO. This is only 2+ years for AS.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 18, 2003 23:11:09 GMT -5
Agreed Marc... One important point as well is that if the Habs are out of the playoff picture, the young guys are going to get alot of icetime ... I could even see Komo up for a stint. The experience counts for something and would be a big boost to their development.
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Post by Habsolution on Jan 18, 2003 23:33:36 GMT -5
The mistakes AS did were gambles, some of them worked some of them didn't but none of them mortgaged the future which is what's truly important. We all have to keep in mind the interest of the team even though we all like early results. This team is still rebuilding. I don't know what GG thinks or what AS told GG but I hope he understands the team he is seeing right now will change a lot 2 years down the road. Audette and Czerkawski were acquired for nothing. It costed us Asham and Rucinsky if I remember well. I have not given up on Mariusz case. He might finaly be used properly. (I actually believe he shooted the puck on the leafs D on purpose on his goal tonight maybe I'm wrong, but it couldn't possibly have been a pass and the shot was so far off the mark it just had to be on purpose). As for Audette well he is a waste I dunno if he'll turn it around. I hope so for him but he was useful in last year playoffs, who could have known he would have gotten hurted and offered such a bad performance this year. Then there's 2 overpaid contracts of Brisebois and Rivet ... Both overpaid. But again ... the only harm it does is hurting GG's pockets. Rivet can be worth that much money. When Sourray comes back it might actually inspire him and lead him to play a tougher game. Brisebois is an old vet ... was about to become UFA so I understand why he paid a lot for him. He can still be a good D for us if he plays like the first 20 games.
So in resume .... AS did a good job. He brought the young guns at the right moment too. I am satisfied and if GG is stupid enough to want to fire AS then I give up on this team ... AS is doing exactly what everyone wants by both rebuilding while trying to assemble a successful team that can make the playoffs. He's doing it the way it should be with the situation he is in. No one would accept rebuilding without being competitive. In my mind there's next to no chance of AS being fired in the next year.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 18, 2003 23:37:13 GMT -5
well put Habsolution
Keep in mind Rivet and Brisebois were going to be highly coveted on the FA market...no doubt they would have had similar $$ elsewhere
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 18, 2003 23:45:08 GMT -5
I agree with you ... There was way too much mustard on that shot to be a pass. And on top of that, it went off Kaberle's knee cap. He was definitely going for a ricochet IMO. CJ will use him properly...just as he did in Hamilton.
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Post by PTH on Jan 19, 2003 1:16:54 GMT -5
I agree with you ... There was way too much mustard on that shot to be a pass. And on top of that, it went off Kaberle's knee cap. He was definitely going for a ricochet IMO. CJ will use him properly...just as he did in Hamilton. I wondered about that too.... Chow just oozes raw skill, and if he's sure the goalie will stop any direct shot, why not give it a try ? And he knew awfully fast that he'd scored for a missed shot....
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Post by MC Habber on Jan 19, 2003 1:57:30 GMT -5
That's what I immediately thought too. He seemed to look where he was shooting it, and he started celebrating right away. From the look on his face he certainly didn't seem like a player who had just scored a really flukey goal, he looked really pleased with himself. If he wasn't trying to bank it in than it was a pretty weird play, putting the puck up in the air, parallel to the goal line and not really towards any teammates.
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Post by Habsolution on Jan 19, 2003 2:51:40 GMT -5
Were you guys listening to it at RDS ? Yvon P. and Pierre H. were so biased it's incredible. They're bashing chow because he spoke his mind. Had he done the opposite they would have labelled him as Hypocrite. The guy had an issue with MT. It's understandable since MT didn't use him properly and thus found him ineffective and useless so he scratched him. I've been among those who blamed Chow for the lack of success of the team but now you can see MT just didn't know how to compose with the NHL and guys like Czerkawski. Almost every teams has its Berezin, Chow, Audette. They all use them properly and things are working. MT didn't ... I can understand czerkawski's point of view. But yet YP and PH were describing how classless he was about saying he was happy with CJ taking over. Then chow scored and no one of them at RDS(even at sports 30) brought out the idea that the goal maybe wasn't a fluke one. Had it been anyone else on the team I believe they would have. You can never know if it was fluke or not. But there are strong indications it wasn't... in fact everything pointed to it. Yet ... Yvon P. and PH were so biased they couldn't even report the truth .. either that or they're more concetrated upon not following the play and talking about Pierre-Jean-Jacques who scored 3 goals in a warm up and asking silly history questions no one really care about ...
Sorry if this turned into a Pierre Houde and Yvon Pedneault bashing ... but I just can't stand them. Every damn game ... they stop describing the game ... to tell unfunny jokes and start laughing together like two idiots.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 19, 2003 10:34:30 GMT -5
LOL another thing that bugs me...when Habs are struggling and Kilger is in the lineup....who gets the blame(not only on RDS/most of the french media I am talking about)...Chad Kilger...he plays 5 minutes per game and they bash him like he cost us the game what about mr -13 Brisebois or Traverse or Dackell who hasn't scored in like 25 games and Juneau in 27...
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Post by HFTO on Jan 19, 2003 11:23:47 GMT -5
If things look like the Habs will miss the playoffs you may just see the likes of Dackell and Juneau be moved clearing the roster. HFTO
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