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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 12:31:39 GMT -5
Are you happy about the hiring of Julien? YES or NO. Count me in as YES.
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Post by Psycorp on Jan 17, 2003 12:35:57 GMT -5
I'd like to wait and see if he really got a system before making my mind
But for now, this is a temporary YES
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Post by Ged on Jan 17, 2003 12:45:43 GMT -5
Let's put it this way. When Tremblay and Therrien were hired, a cold chill ran down my spine, and I suddenly got very nervous and depressed at the same time. When I watched the press conference, I had none of these feeling while watching Julien. He seems to be a man that exudes a quiet confidence. Having said that, you could have closed your eyes in a room of minor league coaches, and whomever you picked would be an instant upgrade over Therrien. As long as Julien brings accountability to all players, and puts in a system whereby we don't get outshot 3-1 every night, I think he'll probably have long term success.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 17, 2003 12:48:11 GMT -5
My initial position was that MTL needs an experienced NHL coach. I am afraid this will be the same, all over again. First AV, then MT and now CJ. I do agree, however, that he will be good with the kids and could be excellent for Chow...Let's hope that 3rd time is a charm... so...same goes for me ... temp yes. cheers,
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 17, 2003 12:54:11 GMT -5
What this team needs is an X's and O's coach, someone with a detailed understanding of the game, someone who can fashion a system that best utilizes the available talent, and who can communicate clearly, effectively, and consistently with players. If Julien can do all those things, then I think it's a good move and you get the added benefit that he has been working with kids like Hossa, Ward, and Hainsey.
He deserves a shot.
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Post by FormerLurker on Jan 17, 2003 12:57:56 GMT -5
Even though I don't know much about him, count me in the "yes" crowd for Julien. We want our young 'uns to play, and he's the man that knows them best. He obviously handled Chow well, and may be able to get something out of him. He has no emotional attachment to any of the veterans, and will be free to play whomever he wishes. We could very well see Hainsey getting 15-20 minutes a game, and perhaps Ward and Gratton may be up sooner rather than later. It's a good day to be a Habs fan.
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Post by Lord Stanley on Jan 17, 2003 12:58:41 GMT -5
Let's put it this way. When Tremblay and Therrien were hired, a cold chill ran down my spine, and I suddenly got very nervous and depressed at the same time. When I watched the press conference, I had none of these feeling while watching Julien. He seems to be a man that exudes a quiet confidence. Having said that, you could have closed your eyes in a room of minor league coaches, and whomever you picked would be an instant upgrade over Therrien. That's exactly how I feel too...
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 12:59:34 GMT -5
What this team needs is an X's and O's coach, someone with a detailed understanding of the game, someone who can fashion a system that best utilizes the available talent, and who can communicate clearly, effectively, and consistently with players. If Julien can do all those things, then I think it's a good move and you get the added benefit that he has been working with kids like Hossa, Ward, and Hainsey. He deserves a shot. Exactly. Believe me here...when I watched the Dogs..I saw a WELL OILED team. A team that was able to breakout out of their zone easily(even their worst d-men were able to get it out quickly and make good first passes). A team that had a system. A team that worked hard. Hopefully he can do this with the Habs. Let's hope kids get more of a chance as well.
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Post by JacquesInFL on Jan 17, 2003 13:37:08 GMT -5
Julien has good hockey mind. Plus, his record teaching young talent and molding prospects into functioning teams gives me hope too.
However, unless we suddenly witness a flurry of gutsy of personnel moves (i.e. dealing once and for all with the Hostess Cupcake three-pack at RW eating minutes & money) to accompany this, I really do not agree with timing aspect of pulling Julien out of Hamilton when many of our kids are clearly benefitting from an excellent development experience. --If minutes have to be handed out to the same failed formulas (e.g. 2nd lines built from laughable combinations of players like Audette, Ribs, Czerk and Petrov), then Savard should have gone behind the bench himself for the remainder of season.
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Post by rocky on Jan 17, 2003 13:47:04 GMT -5
It will take a while before Claude will be able to establish his system, self-confindence, etc. but I am truly happy that he is the Head Coach.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 17, 2003 13:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan on Jan 17, 2003 13:54:30 GMT -5
Y-E-S!!!
Of course by now you could have introduced Satan as our next coach and I'd be thrilled.
I have full confidence in Julien, he's a professional coach, you could never say that about MT.
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Post by Lord Stanley on Jan 17, 2003 13:58:30 GMT -5
Yeah that line only resumes it all: "Who knows if Claude Julien will ever win a Stanley Cup in Montreal, but I do know this: we’re not going to be seeing the Habs giving up more than 40 shots a game on a regular basis. Not any more." Bring in on T.O
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Post by habruti on Jan 17, 2003 14:09:47 GMT -5
He is the third coach that MTL hired and previously coached the Hull Olympics in the QMJHL. After Burns and Vigneault here comes Julien who I think (at least in the juniors) was the best of the bunch.
Can anyone tell me if Theo was playing under him or Vigneault...C'ant remember.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 17, 2003 14:12:47 GMT -5
I'll go with yes. He seems like a pretty good candidate to coach the Habs. I like what Bob McKenzie has to say about him, but other than that I know little about him. He certainly hasn't screwed up the job of coaching the most stacked team in the AHL. The main thing, as others have mentioned, is that he brings in a system, and earns the respect of the players.
The one thing I don't like about the signing, is that the Habs give the Oilers a 2003 4th or 5th round draft pick, as Julien was under contract with them.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 14:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah that line only resumes it all: "Who knows if Claude Julien will ever win a Stanley Cup in Montreal, but I do know this: we’re not going to be seeing the Habs giving up more than 40 shots a game on a regular basis. Not any more." Bring in on T.O sure does. Can't wait for tomorrow's game! The guy who covers the Dogs in the Hamilton paper is on Team990 now...
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 14:17:54 GMT -5
He is the third coach that MTL hired and previously coached the Hull Olympics in the QMJHL. After Burns and Vigneault here comes Julien who I think (at least in the juniors) was the best of the bunch. Can anyone tell me if Theo was playing under him or Vigneault...C'ant remember. Theo was with Hull in 1994-95 and 1995-96...Julien won the Mem cup in 1997 with Hull AND was there for 4 years ..so I guess Theo played with him..
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Post by larek on Jan 17, 2003 14:19:37 GMT -5
Yes i would have taken anyone over therrien,would have likes an experienced nhl coach but who would that be?i liked Ted Nolan but hes not french and he screwed up last job,but i do hear good things about Julien,we will see if the team responds and if they look more like they know their assignments!
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 14:45:32 GMT -5
The Hamilton journalist who follows the Dogs said Julien was definitely ready for the NHL. He called him smart. He said he loves to play wide open hockey, aggressive forechecking, but solid defensively.
From everything I have heard...Julien is definitely a good tactician...
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Post by Boston_Habs on Jan 17, 2003 14:51:01 GMT -5
Julien has good hockey mind. Plus, his record teaching young talent and molding prospects into functioning teams gives me hope too. However, unless we suddenly witness a flurry of gutsy of personnel moves (i.e. dealing once and for all with the Hostess Cupcake three-pack at RW eating minutes & money) to accompany this, I really do not agree with timing aspect of pulling Julien out of Hamilton when many of our kids are clearly benefitting from an excellent development experience. --If minutes have to be handed out to the same failed formulas (e.g. 2nd lines built from laughable combinations of players like Audette, Ribs, Czerk and Petrov), then Savard should have gone behind the bench himself for the remainder of season. I agree with you, Jacques. In some ways I was hoping that Savard would name Charron as interim-coach, let him deal with the current roster mess, let Julien continue to work his magic in Hamilton, and then hopefully hand him him the keys next year with a team that has been cleared of some excess fat (Gilmour, Audette, etc). No doubt it's going to be hard for Julien to effect much change this year, coming in as a rookie NHL coach, mid-season on a team with a lot of established players. He's better suited to the team we all hope to have in the next 2 years with guys like Hossa, Bulis, Hainsey, Komi playing prominent roles.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 17, 2003 15:02:15 GMT -5
I'm really curious to see how our floatation devices function from now on.
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Post by GoMtl on Jan 17, 2003 15:10:51 GMT -5
well here it is. this is where we see if all the stupid problems were MT's fault, the players fault, savard's fault or a combo of all. personally i'm hoping it was mostly MT's fault and with Julien at the helm we will have many things changed. Things such as: TRAVERSE LESS THAN 20 MINUTES A GAME. Hainsey not benched for entire periods. a set 2nd line with SIZE. Kids being given a chance (IE ward being called up when a roster spot becomes available, hainsey given ice time, hossa staying on first line, etc.). and most of all NOT BEING OUTSHOT 40-20!
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Post by Montrealer on Jan 17, 2003 15:55:37 GMT -5
I'm so excited for tomorrow's game.......I'm happy with the choice because it's obvious he knows how to handle the kids. He will not bench Hainsey for making a minor mistake and force him to watch the vets on this team make worse mistakes and get rewarded for them with more ice time. He will encourage them to succeed just as he did in Hamilton....
I hope. I give this a thumbs up.
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Jan 17, 2003 16:06:31 GMT -5
Yeth, oh yeth!
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Post by Rhiessan on Jan 17, 2003 16:09:49 GMT -5
You gotta just imagine Hainsey's face when he heard. Probably something like this= ;D
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Post by moosehead2 on Jan 17, 2003 16:19:15 GMT -5
A resounding YES.
Michel Therrien was badly lacking in communication skills to be a successful head-coach in the NHL. If you gave me the choice between Hartley and Julien, I'd probably chose Julien.
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Post by GoMtl on Jan 17, 2003 16:19:30 GMT -5
and traverse's face must have looked a little something like this czerkawski might be a little bit off his game tomorrow, cuz i figure he's already pissed out of his mind celebrating right now, and will be hung over tomorrow, but i still see a huge improvement in his game coming.
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Post by HFTO on Jan 17, 2003 16:37:17 GMT -5
The jury is obviously out but from all accounts 've heard today Julien is really respected by those who know him. For our sake lets hope his presence alone gets the Habs on a roll. The hard part for julien will be implimenting his system it is much tougher without a training camp. From all accounts Juilien is able to develop talent which may bode well for Ward Gratton and Garon.It wil be interesting to see his lineup I doubt there will be many changes though Chow should benefit in the short term. If he truly is ready we'll see very son how he manages a game and that will be the true test as far as him earning the respect of the players. Lets go claude lets go Habs we have a hole to dig out of. HFTO
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 17:47:09 GMT -5
You gotta just imagine Hainsey's face when he heard. Probably something like this= ;D what about Chow's? or Audette's? Or Perreault's? ;D Did anyone hear Julien talk about the SYSTEM. And how everybody will have to respect the SYSTEM. Man it has been a long time the word system has been mentionned from a Habs coach.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 17, 2003 17:48:32 GMT -5
and traverse's face must have looked a little something like this The good news is Julien(or CJ as I will call him) was a TOUGH HARD NOSED d-man in his day. Hopefully he sees Traverse and says ''OMG why is he here?'' and scratches him or at least cuts his ice time in half ;D
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