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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 5, 2003 21:32:47 GMT -5
choke. Once again, Just like last year. 3-2 Russia final stupid Perezhogin with his 2 damn assists
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 5, 2003 21:36:58 GMT -5
I think that Perezogin is going top be special. He seems to keep his composure and keep at it whereas the Canadien boys where running around, trying to decapitate the Russians.
My only complaint is why wasn't Bowmeister and a few others there? I think there were four players that could of made a diferrence and their clubs would not release them.
Stupid, self centered A-holes.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 5, 2003 21:42:12 GMT -5
HA, Bouwmeester already had THREE WJC's under his belt. He is Florida's 2nd or 3rd best d-man. I never expected them to loan him to Canada Ditto for Spezza The guy that pisses me off is Nash...Columbus is going nowhere...Nash was only a 4th liner at the WJC last year...they should have done what Minny did with Bouchard and loaned him. One of the problems of Team Canada was simply not enough special talent...look at Russia...Ovechkin, Zherdev, Grigorenko, Tharatukin, Perezhogin and loads others...BTW, what in gods name was Habscheid doing putting Roy, TooToo and other GRINDERS on the ice in the last minute? even MT wouldn't do that.
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Post by UberCranky on Jan 5, 2003 21:54:32 GMT -5
So what if Bou had three appearences. Is it against the rules for more? And what about Spezza? He is playing in the AHL. Nash a fourth liner. Whoppeee!
All of a sudden Tootoo is regarded as a serious player? I saw NOTHING other then suicide runs, is that suppose to tell me this guy is a big caliber player? I think not.
Habschield fielded a grinding NHL playoff like team. The Russian skill superiority just was too much. You could see the Russians trying to come out with a play and the Canadiens scrambling like chikens with their head off.
There was at least 600 inteference penalties out there and if they were called, the Canadian boys would be destroyed.
We showed the world our junior skill and talent. Oh yeah................
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 5, 2003 21:58:57 GMT -5
Well, they gave it a good go. I thought you could see Russia settle down after the initial Canadian flury and then you could see how the game was changing.
The Russians had 8 or 9 players returning to Canada's 4, but I thought they were beatable. The Canadians just needed a tad more luck or the odd bounce to go their way.
As far as the Hab's prospects did; Higgins drew a lot of praise and I think Perezohgin (sp) is the real deal as well. Good to see.
Still, Marc Habscheid had his troops ready. They may have lost but it wasn't due to a lack of preparation. They came up against a team that was just as well prepared and the better team won; unfortunately.
Hats off to Halifax as well. I did an excellent job putting all of this together and they drew 70,000 more than Winnipeg did a few years back to boot.
Cheers.
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Post by rocky on Jan 5, 2003 21:59:51 GMT -5
From a hab perspective one can't help but notice the excellent two- way play of Perezhogin. He was very impressive in his own end, plus showed us those great hands with his two assists. Also, Korneev works his butt off, always involved in the play, I really like this guy. Imagine we have two top forwards ( Higgins & Perezhogin ) who have excellent defensive instincts, the very requirement that is the downfall for many a young prospect.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 5, 2003 22:01:21 GMT -5
Well, imagine if the HABS had Bouwmeester and had the choice of sending him to a tourney he has already played 3 times in and played pretty well or keep him up and let him help you out in a playoff race(Florida are in one). Would we be happy seeing our 2nd or 3rd best d-man leave for almost a month?
Sens want Spezza to learn the pro game. That's why he stayed in the AHL.
Nash, I agree totally...he should have definitely been playing in this tournament after being a 4th liner last year. Columbus is going nowhere as well.
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 5, 2003 22:07:50 GMT -5
From a hab perspective one can't help but notice the excellent two- way play of Perezhogin. He was very impressive in his own end, plus showed us those great hands with his two assists. Also, Korneev works his butt off, always involved in the play, I really like this guy. Imagine we have two top forwards ( Higgins & Perezhogin ) who have excellent defensive instincts, the very requirement that is the downfall for many a young prospect. FINAL STATS: Perezhogin: 6 games, 3 goals, 6 assists, 9 points, +9...6th best leading scorer Higgins: 7 games, 3 goals, 3 assists, 6 points, +5... Korneev: 6 games, 0 goals, 2 assists, +10 Wow..great tourney for our kids.. If only Milroy would have made the team...Couldn't have been any worse than Boyd Gordon or Lupul were.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 6, 2003 0:10:15 GMT -5
It's always easy to second guess, but the team make-up was questionable from the beginning (I said so early on, and was pretty annoyed at both Milroy and Braydon Coburn being cut). So now I feel justified with my comments. Firstly, without Fleury, this game is much more one-sided than the final score. Except for the occasional shift, Canada put hardly any pressure on an admittedly weak goaltender. Wonder if Calgary is regretting drafting Porky Pig? Canada had one offensive line, the P-M Bouchard one and they had the best chances. Upshall and Wellwood looked dangerous on occasion. The Russians were the best offensive team Canada had played to date, and the fact that part of our game hadn't been challenged enough hurt us in this game. We needed some guys who can beat people one on one, either along the boards or in open ice. Gretzky supposedly advised picking players based on their achievements, not how they did in camp. Unless Milroy's discipline was questionable, there was no reason for him to be left off the team. When the score was 2-2, I kept thinking that very point. Who's going to get you that clutch goal? Not Milroy, from his vantage point in Cranbrook. Besides that, though, we had to pick a few guys who can beat people. I think we have them, don't we? We sure have lots of character players and NHL 3rd and 4th liners. Yes, we had Nash and Bouwmeester who weren't there, but the Russians were also missing Kovalchuk, Chistov and Svitov. Their weak spot was goaltending and we just didn't test it enough. Is Nathan Horton good at beating people one on one? I think I was especially annoyed (maybe even more than annoyed) at not having any 17 year olds on the team. Habscheid picked the team like Therrien picks our line-up. If you're young and gung-ho, get in the pressbox.
Perezhogin played a solid game. Both his assists were good plays, but the 1st one was especially good. That behind the back, soft pass while 2 Canadian players were zeroing in on him (what happened to our discipline?) was first class. And he showed he isn't afraid to go to the net. His PK work was solid. He's not quite the speed demon I was expecting, and I thought he'd be shiftier than he showed, but his wheels are good enough. Korneev really impressed me. If he could just grow another 3 inches and add 40 pounds, he'd be a good NHL defenseman. Very smart and cool with the puck. He does not panic. And for a little guy, he sure likes to throw his weight around. I had to laugh at Pierre Maguire, complaining about Korneev 'bailing out'. Well, if I'm Korneev's size, I'm going to bail out a lot too. It's called survival. I didn't notice any Canadian players outmuscling him either, which should have been part of the game plan. Put a big guy one on one against Korneev and break down the defense. Just watch Todd Bertuzzi a few times. Of course, Bertuzzi does it against almost everyone.
I was not suprised at all at this result (right Marc?), and actually thought the margin would be more, but Fleury had a very good game. We have to do a better job of picking players. Whatever process we're using seems to get us there, but not over the top.
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Post by PTH on Jan 6, 2003 0:17:20 GMT -5
I'm ashamed of you guys.
Any real Habs fan would be rooting for Russia and the US from the start - they had our players, not Canada. Whatever helps the Habs is good, and seeing Perezhogin play well is good for the Habs.
No reason for anyone to be disappointed about this game.
Only thing I'm disappointed about was not seeing Higgins and the USA in the final as well.
Habs before all.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Jan 6, 2003 10:23:59 GMT -5
I'm ashamed of you guys. Any real Habs fan would be rooting for Russia and the US from the start - they had our players, not Canada. Whatever helps the Habs is good, and seeing Perezhogin play well is good for the Habs. No reason for anyone to be disappointed about this game. Only thing I'm disappointed about was not seeing Higgins and the USA in the final as well. Habs before all. I am not ashamed of you guys. I am very happy to see that our prospects did well in the tournament and the future looks bright. If the Montreal Canadiens play against Team Canada, I chose the Canadiens. But until then, Canada always comes first. To say that we aren't real hab fans because we don't only cheer for a couple of prospects, who by the way, have never played one single game for that Habs is pure balony. Who says they will ever play a single game for the Canadiens anyway...they could be traded down the road for all we know. Give your head a shake! (all good natured, of course)
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Post by MPLABBE on Jan 6, 2003 10:45:15 GMT -5
It's always easy to second guess, but the team make-up was questionable from the beginning (I said so early on, and was pretty annoyed at both Milroy and Braydon Coburn being cut). Replace Rouleau or Brendan Bell with Coburn Replace Gordon with Milroy Is Corey Locke(the guy who is on pace for 160 points in the OHL I believe) a winger or a center? whatever he should have been on this team Horton must have sucked big time in training camp to not be on this team. With his size and skill we sure could have used him. Not enough scoring talent and you lose 3-2 because of it. Must be all the Leafs prospects ;D
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