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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Dec 19, 2002 20:26:43 GMT -5
Powerplay time up the wazoo. Shifts on the first line that interfere with the chemistry Kilger is developing with Zed and Koivu. A defensive liability on every second shift. Weak on the puck. I can't stand it anymore. I can't stand seeing this guy.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 19, 2002 20:34:09 GMT -5
I hate Audi as much as you do but you have to admit this guy is snakebitten. It's friggin ridiculous.
If he plays in the 3rd with Koivu and Zed than MT is an ever bigger idiot that we thought
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Post by Chopper on Dec 19, 2002 20:41:42 GMT -5
Powerplay time up the wazoo. Shifts on the first line that interfere with the chemistry Kilger is developing with Zed and Koivu. A defensive liability on every second shift. Weak on the puck. I can't stand it anymore. I can't stand seeing this guy. Couldn't have said it better!
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Post by Andrew on Dec 19, 2002 21:36:21 GMT -5
He is snakebitten to the extent that when he gets good opportunities he misses them. The bigger problem, however, is that he's not skating hard, or working for his chances. I could live with him being in a slump if I saw some effort out there, but he rarely gets a chance that's not the result of a power-play, or someone else's work. His wrist may be permanently damaged, but that shouldn't affect his skating or work ethic. I'd be overjoyed if we could get rid of him, but realisticly that won't happen.
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Post by BadCompany on Dec 19, 2002 21:40:33 GMT -5
Ice Time:
Chad Kilger: 12:03
Donald Audette: 13:31
Only two and a half more years to go.
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Post by hopo on Dec 19, 2002 22:03:32 GMT -5
what is mt-head hoping to accomplish by putting audette on the top line?I am tired the way the they jerk poor kilger around. he doesnt complain demand trades or anything,however audette the human example that you can be both small and slow,gets to impede koivu and zednik. As far as being snakebitten , audette has his own deteriorating abilities to blame for his misfortunes. hang -em up kid or go play for the IBNFRTIN team of the swiss league
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 19, 2002 22:16:06 GMT -5
*Pray* we can dump him for anything or he retires 2 more years and half of watching this guy will make me sick
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Dec 19, 2002 22:46:54 GMT -5
Ice Time: Chad Kilger: 12:03 Donald Audette: 13:31 Only two and a half more years to go. That puts it into perspective I reckon. Me thinks even Gilmour hasn't that long to go. Go figure. Cheers.
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Post by PTH on Dec 19, 2002 22:59:30 GMT -5
Now you guys are seeing why I hated the Audette deal from the start....
small, slow guys who bring scoring and little else lose a lot of their value when they lose that one commodity that they bring to the rink.
Chow, Petrov and Perreault are at least slightly more well-rounded players, and none has anything like the massive contract Audi does.
Forget Malhotra, we should have just let Rosie go as a UFA or taken a 9th round pick...
All that being said, I think AS and MT are doing everything they can to get Audi going, otherwise it's 5 million bucks or so (ie, a buyout) that we have to give up.
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Post by KR on Dec 19, 2002 23:37:37 GMT -5
I don't think he's playing any different than he has throughout his career. The pucks are not going in right now and that certainly exaggerates the other deficiencies everyone knew he had when AS acquired him. He's really not that dissimilar to Perreault....below average speed, defensively suspect, doesn't get his nose too dirty, historically dangerous if left open. The difference is that Perreault is scoring and Audette isn't. If Perreault had 2 or 3 goals he'd be on everyone's hit list as well. I'm not convinced thiis is a result of last year's injury. He was potting the goals in the playoff after all. This is a slump, plain and simple. A very frustrating and inexplicable slump, but a slump just the same. He'll come out of it. IMO, if he can't be dealt for a big, tough, forward then there's no point in moving him at all. We might as well just be patient and let him work his way through it.
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Post by UberCranky on Dec 19, 2002 23:40:49 GMT -5
Good money after bad. I wonder if the Hab's can go after the insurance company for permanent disability? I mean, at least they can give the Hab fan’s some money for putting us under cruel and unusual punishment.
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Post by habwest on Dec 20, 2002 0:27:41 GMT -5
Well, you're right about Audette PTH. Now that he's lost his scoring ability he's useless. I guess I was luke warm about the trade but warmed up when Audette began delivering. (I'm OK with one dimensional scorers as long as they can deliver. I was always fond of that Lafleur fellow, Shutt too).
Until "the injury".
As far as effort goes, Audette can show all the effort in the world but if he doesn't score it's irrelevant. Unless he turns into a playmaking assist machine which I kind of doubt. Sooner or later the Habs are going to have to write this investment off and move on. I'm on the sooner side so his presence doesn't keep messing up what else the club is trying to do.
We're now at the 40% mark of the season. Time to move on.
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Post by montreal on Dec 20, 2002 0:54:47 GMT -5
Ice Time: Chad Kilger: 12:03 Donald Audette: 13:31 Only two and a half more years to go. I heard John Davidson saying that they wanted to move Zednik over to Left wing, cause he was getting hit a lot by Kasper. So I guess they wanted to move a natural RW into that spot. That said, he is snake bit, and it's painful to watch, but once he gets one, he will get a few more, thats usually how it goes.
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Post by Habdul on Dec 20, 2002 1:08:34 GMT -5
I don't think he's playing any different than he has throughout his career. The pucks are not going in right now and that certainly exaggerates the other deficiencies everyone knew he had when AS acquired him. He's really not that dissimilar to Perreault....below average speed, defensively suspect, doesn't get his nose too dirty, historically dangerous if left open. The difference is that Perreault is scoring and Audette isn't. If Perreault had 2 or 3 goals he'd be on everyone's hit list as well. I'm not convinced thiis is a result of last year's injury. He was potting the goals in the playoff after all. This is a slump, plain and simple. A very frustrating and inexplicable slump, but a slump just the same. He'll come out of it. IMO, if he can't be dealt for a big, tough, forward then there's no point in moving him at all. We might as well just be patient and let him work his way through it. Best analysis I've seen on any board regarding Audette. Just like all the Gilmour bashers, many are jumping the gun on Audette. The guy has proved throughout his career that he can score. He's in a slump, and he will break out of it. At least I see the effort and desire, I'll never rag on a player in a slump, as long as they're trying as hard as they can. To think that we're doing as well as we are without Audette's and Petrov's expected goal contributions. When those two get going we're going to have a very balanced scoring attack.
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Post by TheHabsfan on Dec 20, 2002 8:52:10 GMT -5
I hate Audi as much as you do but you have to admit this guy is snakebitten. It's friggin ridiculous. If he plays in the 3rd with Koivu and Zed than MT is an ever bigger idiot that we thought That's impossible Marc...How can MT be a bigger idiot! He is now known as the benchmark for stupidity! We now use him to measure morons! He is the one who came up with those stupid "subway" commercials...he... Ok...maybe he didn't, but then again, who knows!
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Post by Ged on Dec 20, 2002 9:26:54 GMT -5
They're obviousy trying to jump start him by giving him quality ice time and quality PP time. Pretty hard to swallow for AS to have a guy making that much coin sitting on the bench, or in the press box. The only way Savard is going to be able to move him, is if he somehow regains his touch around the net, or another G.M. has a world record brain cramp. But, in the interim, what kind of a message does this send to guys in the dressing room that are working there bag off, and actually deserve that PP time? And what kind of damage will it have on the team in the long run, vis a vis never ending line juggling? What I'd really like to know, is what do Koivu and Zed think of him being on their line?
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 20, 2002 9:38:31 GMT -5
That's impossible Marc...How can MT be a bigger idiot! He is now known as the benchmark for stupidity! We now use him to measure morons! He is the one who came up with those stupid "subway" commercials...he... Ok...maybe he didn't, but then again, who knows! Well at least he didn't create those stupid Jarred/Subway adds
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Post by Willie Dog on Dec 20, 2002 13:50:48 GMT -5
What I'd really like to know, is what do Koivu and Zed think of him being on their line? I read somewhere, maybe on this board, that Koivu liked having Czerk on his line, this was before Kilger joined them.
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Post by HFTO on Dec 20, 2002 14:47:35 GMT -5
BC I'm glad I had a shot in my hand after you posted that stat! Oh well a second certainly won't hurt. MT wake up! HFTO
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 20, 2002 17:32:42 GMT -5
I read somewhere, maybe on this board, that Koivu liked having Czerk on his line, this was before Kilger joined them. He also said ''Audette has more talent than anyone on this team'' so SK was just padding a struggling 'mate on the back
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