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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 6, 2002 12:37:35 GMT -5
Guys who could be available. We could need one with Souray out
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Allen, Bryan, Vancouver Canucks Allison, Jamie, Columbus Blue Jackets
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Cairns, Eric, New York Islanders
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Gauthier, Denis, Calgary Flames
Grand-Pierre, Jean-Luc, Columbus Blue Jackets
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Helenius, Sami, Dallas Stars
Houlder, Bill, Nashville Predators
Hulse, Cale, Nashville Predators
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Kuznetsov, Maxim, Detroit Red Wings
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Lukowich, Brad, Tampa Bay Lightning
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McAllister, Chris, Philadelphia Flyers
McGillis, Dan, Philadelphia Flyers McKee, Jay, Buffalo Sabres
P Phillips, Chris, Ottawa Senators
Pratt, Nolan, Tampa Bay Lightning
Pushor, Jamie, Pittsburgh Penguins
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Salvador, Bryce, St. Louis Blues
Simpson, Todd, Phoenix Coyotes
Skrastins, Karlis, Nashville Predators
Strudwick, Jason, Chicago Blackhawks Stuart, Brad, San Jose Sharks
Sutton, Andy, Atlanta Thrashers
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Tamer, Chris, Atlanta Thrashers
Therien, Chris, Philadelphia Flyers
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Ulanov, Igor, Florida Panthers
Ward, Lance, Florida Panthers
Witt, Brendan, Washington Capitals
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Zhitnik, Alexei, Buffalo Sabres
I am pretty sure most if not all of those guys could be had for the right package.
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Post by wade on Dec 6, 2002 12:48:24 GMT -5
this is my prove that marc has too much time on ur hand... But GREAT observation though,,...
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Post by Chopper on Dec 6, 2002 12:55:22 GMT -5
What about Kloucek from the Rangers. I would try and get Chris Phillips personally. What it would take to get him I don't know? Or maybe Denis Gauthier
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Post by GoMtl on Dec 6, 2002 13:08:21 GMT -5
of that list denis gauthier interests me the most, but he would also be harder to aquire, so a guy like jl grand pierre would also be nice. another thought is with bryan allen, this kid has good potential and he's not afraid to stick up for his team mates. last weekend against florida artem chubarov was without the puck blind sided with a devistating open ice hit by peter worrell. who came to his aid against the enormous worrell? allen did, although he's not a scrapper as far as i know, he's willing to stick up for mates, and that type of thing shows a lot of character.
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Post by GoMtl on Dec 6, 2002 13:09:09 GMT -5
and to reply to chopper i believe kloucek was left off of the list because he is not a left d-man. same goes for ference who is a righty.
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Post by zenseeker on Dec 6, 2002 13:29:19 GMT -5
Grand-pierre would probably be my choice, but any defenseman that has a mean streak and hits everything in sight would be good
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Post by Chopper on Dec 6, 2002 13:30:55 GMT -5
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Post by rocky on Dec 6, 2002 13:37:13 GMT -5
Witt would be my first choice, but he is almost untouchable. Grand-Pierre or Gauthier would both be welcome additions plus Grand-Pierre is a great skater.
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Post by darz on Dec 6, 2002 13:48:25 GMT -5
ya got some crappy dmen on that list marc. ;D take bill houlder and igor ulanov off the list and it looks a little better.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 6, 2002 16:13:09 GMT -5
this is my prove that marc has too much time on ur hand... But GREAT observation though,,... lol...it's quite easy...just get a NHL d-man list and eliminate the ones who don't fit the profile.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 6, 2002 16:13:48 GMT -5
and to reply to chopper i believe kloucek was left off of the list because he is not a left d-man. same goes for ference who is a righty. No Kloucek is a left d-man, he just isn't in the NHL right now
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 6, 2002 16:15:11 GMT -5
Witt would be my first choice, but he is almost untouchable. Witt has been playing pretty bad this year and many are saying he could be the one dealt by the Caps if they shake it up. Huge price tag though Darz, Ulanov and Houlder are better than Dykhuis! LOL
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Post by montreal on Dec 6, 2002 19:39:01 GMT -5
Well take McGillis off the list, he was just traded to the Sharks for Marcus Ragrnsson.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 6, 2002 19:58:53 GMT -5
Well take McGillis off the list, he was just traded to the Sharks for Marcs Ragernson. Holy sh** That's a good deal for SJ IMO. McGillis can bring more than Ragnarsson
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Post by darz on Dec 7, 2002 13:22:10 GMT -5
Darz, Ulanov and Houlder are better than Dykhuis! LOL ya i guess a ulanov for dykhuis wouldn't be bad, we'd be adding salary though. i don't know if houlder would be much of an upgrade though.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 7, 2002 14:46:20 GMT -5
I don't know how Houlder is playing these days so I don't want him either.
The guys I really want on that list are:
-Kloucek(not on it) -Gauthier -Witt -Allen -Helenius(a monster) -McKee
Anyone one of them would be nice. We don't need a star d-man. Just a guy who is big and can hit. Someone who will put fear into opposing big RW's.
BTW forget about Brad Stuart. I had a brain cramp there(his name should be off)
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Post by darz on Dec 7, 2002 15:21:48 GMT -5
The guys I really want on that list are: -Kloucek(not on it) -Gauthier -Witt -Allen -Helenius(a monster) -McKee ya, if we could get one of those guys without giving up a player under 30 i would be happy
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Post by legaspesien on Dec 7, 2002 15:44:33 GMT -5
Guys who could be available. We could need one with Souray out What's going on Marc did you lose faith in Hainsey
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 7, 2002 15:54:59 GMT -5
What's going on Marc did you lose faith in Hainsey I haven't...but even if Hainsey is added to the lineup...the left side is too soft for my liking.
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Post by montreal on Dec 7, 2002 15:57:59 GMT -5
I don't know how Houlder is playing these days so I don't want him either. The guys I really want on that list are: -Kloucek(not on it) -Gauthier -Witt -Allen -Helenius(a monster) -McKee Anyone one of them would be nice. We don't need a star d-man. Just a guy who is big and can hit. Someone who will put fear into opposing big RW's. BTW forget about Brad Stuart. I had a brain cramp there(his name should be off) Gauthier would be my pick, as I think the Flames may want to try and make the playoffs this year, so maybe a 2 for 1 deal would work. Only problem is that Gauthier has had some injury problems as well. But with the injuries to Richter and Bure, Kloucek could become a possibility. The rest, I doubt would be free. McKee sounds good, but no way would the Sabers move him to us.
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Post by Vichab on Dec 8, 2002 1:53:01 GMT -5
Jason Strudwick has all the attributes you have listed and i think would be a great fit. if you recall we had this discussion about him when he was on waivers last season. Boy would AS be breathing easier now if he had moved on that one. We all would. Instead now when I watch the 3 stooges of Q (playing better) Trav (will never amount to anything) and Dyk ( what happenned to last years Mr. Reliable) I long for the days of Christian LaFlamme.
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Post by montreal on Dec 8, 2002 2:02:43 GMT -5
Jason Strudwick has all the attributes you have listed and i think would be a great fit. if you recall we had this discussion about him when he was on waivers last season. Boy would AS be breathing easier now if he had moved on that one. We all would. Instead now when I watch the 3 stooges of Q (playing better) Trav (will never amount to anything) and Dyk ( what happenned to last years Mr. Reliable) I long for the days of Christian LaFlamme. LaFlamme, YUCK !! I think he is the worst defensemen I have ever seen in a Habs sweater. I also hated Murray Baron at the time, the 2 of them, I had to take medication for years to forget they ever played here.
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Post by seventeen on Dec 8, 2002 2:16:13 GMT -5
Baron has been a solid player for Vancouver. Must have been something in the drinking water in Montreal.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 10:42:18 GMT -5
And AV's buddy LaFlamme is a regular for the Blues these days(got a point yesterday).
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Post by KILLger on Dec 8, 2002 19:49:36 GMT -5
There are two possibilities: we acquire an established LD; we acquire a project that might become...
ESTABLISHED LD
ANAHEIM
Ruslan Salei Date of birth: Nov 2, 1974 Place of birth: Minsk, USSR (BLR) HT: 6-1 WT: 205 Hand: L Salary: $1,600,000
ASSETS: Plays a big, mean and nasty game from behind the blueline. Can hit with the very best in the game today. Is strong enough to handle the attention his big hits garner from the opposition. FLAWS: Does go overboard with his hits on occasion, resulting in a visit with NHL disciplinarian Colin Campbell from time to time. Will occasionally make bad decisions with the puck in the defensive zone. CAREER POTENTIAL: Salei is a solid, stay-at-home complement to a more offensive partner. He'll never make any friends on the opposing team but is a player every coach wants. However, Salei needs to play more in control to be even more effective in the long run.
NASHVILLE
Karlis Skrastins Date of birth: Jul 9, 1974 Place of birth: Riga, USSR (LAT) HT: 6-1 WT: 215 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $775,000 ASSETS: Loves to play the body and block shots. Has great character and an infectious personality. Is improving in all aspects of the game. FLAWS: Has limited offensive capability. May struggle if placed on the ice against some of the swiftest skaters in the NHL. CAREER POTENTIAL: Skrastins is a late-blooming defender on the Predators. He will likely be used in important defensive situations for several more seasons. He could soon become a household name.
TAMPA BAY
Jassen Cullimore Date of birth: Dec 4, 1972 Place of birth: Simcoe, Ont., Canada HT: 6-5 WT: 244 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $1,450,000 ASSETS: Has outstanding skating ability for a 6-5 defenseman. Physically, he has everything you look for in a rearguard. Has learned to play with both poise and confidence. FLAWS: Doesn't use his size enough and plays a fairly passive game overall. Still leaves you wanting more, due to his incredible physical package. CAREER POTENTIAL: Cullimore has finally become a bona fide top-four defenseman in the NHL. He will continue to work hard at all aspects of the game, since he knows how hard it was to finally make it as an NHL regular.
WASHINGTON
Brendan Witt Date of birth: Feb 20, 1975 Place of birth: Humboldt, Sask., Canada HT: 6-2 WT: 229 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $1,650,000 ASSETS: Will make his presence felt on every shift. Loves to take the body and isn't afraid of dropping the gloves. Is a strong defender while his team is short-handed and excellent team leader. FLAWS: Tends to stray out of position in order to line up his opponent for the big hit. Has little offensive upside to his game. CAREER POTENTIAL: Witt will continue to be a big part of the Capitals blueline corps for the next several years. He's a perfect complement to an offensive defensemen and will continue to be put on the ice during most defensive situations.
1) Witt 2) Salei 3) Skrastins 4) Cullimore
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Post by KILLger on Dec 8, 2002 19:49:55 GMT -5
PROJECTS LD
ANAHEIM
Pavel Trnka Date of birth: Jul 27, 1976 Place of birth: Plzen, Czech. (CZE) HT: 6-2 WT: 200 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $900,000
ASSETS: Really enjoys the rough going. When he stays within his limitations, he's a force to be reckoned with. FLAWS: Often tries to do too much, which takes him out of position. Needs to do the little things because he'll never put up big numbers in the NHL. CAREER POTENTIAL: Trnka continues to walk a tightrope in terms of his regular spot in the Anaheim lineup. If he cannot regain past form, he could soon find himself on the outside looking in. Trnka still has a lot to prove.
ATLANTA
Andy Sutton Date of birth: Mar 10, 1975 Place of birth: Kingston, Ont., Canada HT: 6-6 WT: 245 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $575,000 ASSETS: Has excellent size and is slowly learning how to use it effectively. Plays a smart game in his own end. Has a hard shot from the point. Can line up both on defense and at left wing. FLAWS: Lacks mobility and doesn't have any offensive upside. Therefore, he will sink or swim with his aggressiveness and versatility. CAREER POTENTIAL: Sutton is a serviceable player to have around. Since he can intimidate the opposition, he should have a job in the big league for the next little while. He should spend most of his minutes on defense for the Thrashers.
CHICAGO
Jason Strudwick Date of birth: Jul 17, 1975 Place of birth: Edmonton, Alta., Canada HT: 6-3 WT: 225 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $500,000 ASSETS: At 6-3, 225 pounds, he has the mass necessary to take on the biggest power forwards in the NHL. Works his tail off and doesn't shy away from the rough stuff. Leaves nothing in the dressing room. FLAWS: Lacks any sort of offensive game. Doesn't have the foot speed or puck-handling ability to be anything more than a depth defenseman. CAREER POTENTIAL: As long as his hard work continues to keep him in the coach's good graces, Strudwick will have an NHL job. He must continue to keep his game simple, however.
FLORIDA
Lance Ward Date of birth: Jun 2, 1978 Place of birth: Lloydminster, Alta., Canada HT: 6-3 WT: 220 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $425,000 ASSETS: Likes to initiate contact in the defensive zone. Has the makings of a smooth, reliable blueliner. FLAWS: Has extremely limited offensive ability and difficulty with speedy forwards, due to questionable lateral mobility. Is prone to spending a lot of time in the penalty box. CAREER POTENTIAL: Ward must start developing his game with the Panthers, who are slowly building up an impressive stable of young blueline talent. Down the road, Ward may have trouble earning regular minutes.
1) Ward 2) Sutton 3) Strudwick 4) Trnka
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 21:07:45 GMT -5
There are two possibilities: we acquire an established LD; we acquire a project that might become... I like the project idea. It's not like we are going to win the cup this year. We are still building Salei-Brisebois would make a fine D pairing but I doubt the Ducks(who are thin at their blueline) would deal him I like this guy as well but like the Ducks the Preds D is thin.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 21:11:41 GMT -5
ANAHEIMPavel Trnka Date of birth: Jul 27, 1976 Place of birth: Plzen, Czech. (CZE) HT: 6-2 WT: 200 Shoots/Catches: L Salary: $900,000 ASSETS: Really enjoys the rough going. When he stays within his limitations, he's a force to be reckoned with. FLAWS: Often tries to do too much, which takes him out of position. Needs to do the little things because he'll never put up big numbers in the NHL. CAREER POTENTIAL: Trnka continues to walk a tightrope in terms of his regular spot in the Anaheim lineup. If he cannot regain past form, he could soon find himself on the outside looking in. Trnka still has a lot to prove. Sounds like a real big time project Good 6th d-man a good 7th 1st round bust. Probably a 5th-6th max
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Post by KILLger on Dec 8, 2002 21:16:16 GMT -5
[Lance Ward] 1st round bust. Probably a 5th-6th max Hmmmm... he was drafted in the third round in 1998... thinking of Brad Ference? I'd like him too... but he's a RD.
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Post by MPLABBE on Dec 8, 2002 21:20:41 GMT -5
Hmmmm... he was drafted in the third round in 1998... thinking of Brad Ference? I'd like him too... but he's a RD. Ward was originally drafted by the Devils in the 1st round in 1996. They didn't sign him and the Cats picked him up
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