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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 11:08:02 GMT -5
Boston(2), Philly(3), St Louis(2), Wild(3) and the Stars(3)
Some pretty good teams in that group!
We are 2nd in our division, 3 points behind the Bruins(who have to come down back to earth eventually)
We are 8th in our conference. 4 points away from the top spot
Things could certainly be worse! we could be the Laughs! LOL
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 10, 2002 13:05:16 GMT -5
You know something though, Marc? I'll take the two points as we get them, but honestly I wish we could have done better against a depleted St. Louis squad.
I don't think their drafting is far superior to anyone else's in the league. But, I do think we've seen this scenario before. A mixture of veterans, pressbox-taxi-squad guys, and youngsters that are not only well coached, but playing with nothing to lose.
I remember our team a few years back looking quite similar mainly due to the injury factor. We didn't make the playoffs but they were sure entertaining to watch.
Don't get me wrong, Marc, I'm happy when we get the points. But, I'd really like some points against some stronger teams. It's only the beginning of the season, but we haven't faired all that well against Philly, and now, St. Louis. This next game may give us a better indication I suppose.
Detroit and Toronto were cool though.
Cheers.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 10, 2002 13:50:31 GMT -5
False security.
If we had injuries or we kept the games we lost close then I would say we have something but when we get spanked something awfull in those loses and most of the wins and ties are goaltenders getting first stars then I am very concerned.
Witness last night. The came out flat and we looked wonderful but by the third period we were holding on. Why? Never mind, I know why but more importantly what is going to be done about it? I know that answer too.
I am beginning to feel that we are going to go through the year with no identity and no plan. Just take one game at a time and if the goalie is playing great we win, if not, another loss.
Is the farm developing the new crop? Teaching them our "systems"? We need 2 or 3 kids to move up every year and yet we stuff our line up with vets and hope that the kids "grow" into stars to displace the high dollar vets.
Ahh, the heck with it, enough of the Sunday mini rant.
We should name the Hab's the "entrenched mediocrity" team.
Meanwhile, I am trying to convince the big boss to join me at the game tomorrow but I am afraid that the price may be a freaken’play or God forbid, a ballet. *looks for bullets* I love my Hab’s but even I have limitations. If I do make it, I am going to focus on Ribs, Hainsey and Komi. Other then those 2 1/2 players and Hossa/Garon the rest are not worth it at this time.
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Post by KR on Nov 10, 2002 14:06:29 GMT -5
False secutiry. . Witness last night. The came out flat and we looked wonderful but by the third period we were holding on. Why? Never mind, I know why but more importantly what is going to be done about it? The only person that can ultimately be held responsible for a team's inability to play 60 minutes is the coach. I'm happy with last night's win, but the only way this team will win consistently and start beating the better teams is when there is a new coach behind the bench. Some obvious player moves aside, Therrien's dismissal will have the greatest impact. A real no-nonsense, win-at-all-costs, no more fooling aroound you guys, lead by example player couldn't hurt either. Hey Shayne! Tired of of the Laffs yet? Why not waive that no-trade clause and come back to Montreal where you belong?
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 10, 2002 14:18:03 GMT -5
A real no-nonsense, win-at-all-costs, no more fooling aroound you guys, lead by example player couldn't hurt either. Amen. Lamaire or Hitchcock would do fine as far as I am concerned. Hey Shayne! Tired of of the Laffs yet? Why not waive that no-trade clause and come back to Montreal where you belong? NOOOOOOO............thuuuump................daaaaamn........ (Sorry, I fell of my chair.) NO.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 14:23:46 GMT -5
You something though, Marc. I'll take the two points as we get them, but honestly I wish we could have done better against a depleted St. Louis squad. Cheers. I hope you remember the Blues had won 8 in arrow? but you have a point. A win against a great team like Dallas on Tuesday wouldbe great
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 14:24:46 GMT -5
Hey Shayne! Tired of of the Laffs yet? Why not waive that no-trade clause and come back to Montreal where you belong? No (to quote BC)
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Post by montreal on Nov 10, 2002 16:02:03 GMT -5
Boston(2), Philly(3), St Louis(2), Wild(3) and the Stars(3) Some pretty good teams in that group! We are 2nd in our division, 3 points behind the Bruins(who have to come down back to earth eventually) We are 8th in our conference. 4 points away from the top spot Things could certainly be worse! we could be the Laughs! LOL And in our 4 losses, all of them were blowouts. We gave up 6,6,6,5 goals in those losses, so chances are, when our goalies let in 5 or more, we are going to lose. But the schedule gets tough, so things might not be so rosey in Habland. We have gone 4-1-2 over the last 7 I believe, so I expect so losses to come soon. Next up, Dallas, @nj, NJ, Pitt, @pitt, @ott, Canes, Thrashers, @bos, Phi. Thats the rest of November. Ouch. Dallas very tough, 2 games against NJ and they are playing very good, 2 against Pitt (gotta stop the top line for a win), 2 big divisional games on the road (Ott, Bos) and please don't play Theo against the flyers (2 games 10 goals against)
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 16:05:20 GMT -5
Let's hope Schwab finally starts a game for NJ next weekend ;D
Pitt seems to be coming back to earth a little
We have success against Ottawa
Thrashers we SHOULD beat
Let's hope we can win a few more.
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Post by HFTO on Nov 10, 2002 17:34:03 GMT -5
It would be nice to see this team play 60 mins for a change,it just doesn't seem we have the horses to do it that often when and if it does happen.Lets hope they can at least play .500 the rest of this month. I think most of us would have taken this record if asked at the begining of the season. With the likes of Tampa and Pittsburgh fully entrenched in the mix the Habs are going to be in tough because you know Ottawa won't be down for long.Its a real bonus that the Leafs have buried themselves as well as Buffalo.Both teams will have to play.600 hockey the rest of the way just to get in the 90 pt range. HFTO
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 10, 2002 18:15:07 GMT -5
I hope you remember the Blues had won 8 in arrow? How could I not remember? Momentum certainly can motivate a team, no doubting that. But the Blues have been winning with a depleted lineup. I don't know which team has the best prospects, but St. Louis has done well in getting the most out of theirs. We iced a pretty healthy team and well basically didn't compete from what I've read. Therein lies my apprehension. Cheers.
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Post by montreal on Nov 10, 2002 18:21:09 GMT -5
How could I not remember? Momentum certainly can motivate a team, no doubting that. But the Blues have been winning with a depleted lineup. I don't know which team has the best prospects, but St. Louis has done well in getting the most out of theirs. We iced a pretty healthy team and well basically didn't compete from what I've read. Therein lies my apprehension. Cheers. That was a strange game, IMO. I thought the game was going well until Theo let in a softie by Rosey. And all those pims just killed us. Way way to much time in the box when your PK is 30th and the other teams PP is 3rd. But the blues go and lose their next game after that to the blue jackets. The blues are a good team and playing well without their top 2 players. Their 60M+ payroll is really high, but I don't think they can match up against the wings, stars, and avs.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 18:38:04 GMT -5
I agree Montreal. In a way the score reflected the game because they really dominated us but in another way that game should have ended 3-2 or 4-2 max..Habs could have made that game 3-1 in the 2nd and really put a stranglehold on it(Zednik got robbed by Brathwaite a few times)...and the pim's did hurt..
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Post by M. Beaux-Eaux on Nov 10, 2002 18:39:01 GMT -5
And in our 4 losses, all of them were blowouts. We gave up 6,6,6,5 goals in those losses, so chances are, when our goalies let in 5 or more, we are going to lose. But the schedule gets tough, so things might not be so rosey in Habland. We have gone 4-1-2 over the last 7 I believe, so I expect so losses to come soon. Next up, Dallas, @nj, NJ, Pitt, @pitt, @ott, Canes, Thrashers, @bos, Phi. Thats the rest of November. Ouch. Dallas very tough, 2 games against NJ and they are playing very good, 2 against Pitt (gotta stop the top line for a win), 2 big divisional games on the road (Ott, Bos) and please don't play Theo against the flyers (2 games 10 goals against) Who was in net for those four losses and surrendered those 23 goals? The guy who, aside from Patrick Traverse, is the most improved player on our club as of late. It will be tough, no doubt, but I'm not worried. The thing that does concern me somewhat is that 6 of those 10 games are at home. Seems to me that, since leaving the venerable Forum, les boys have been a better road team than home team. No ghosts looking over their shoulders when they're away, I guess.
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Post by montreal on Nov 10, 2002 18:58:31 GMT -5
Who was in net for those four losses and surrendered those 23 goals? The guy who, aside from Patrick Traverse, is the most improved player on our club as of late. It will be tough, no doubt, but I'm not worried. The thing that does concern me somewhat is that 6 of those 10 games are at home. Seems to me that, since leaving the venerable Forum, les boys have been a better road team than home team. No ghosts looking over their shoulders when they're away, I guess. Plus 3 of the 4 blowouts where against the top teams in the league as of right now. (Philly, Philly, St. Louis, and both of them have blown out a few other teams). I'm not worried either. I think Theo will get much better, our PK will then be better, and the schedule will ease up a bit at some point. I'm not saying we do great this year, but I still think we have a better season then last year, hopefully.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 19:00:17 GMT -5
not too mention we couldn't use our checking line in the 2 games against Philly(1st game it wasn't there and 2nd game Hitchcock didn't let us...)
as for the loss to Buffalo, well, we always seem to have trouble with those guys..
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Post by Viper on Nov 10, 2002 22:09:16 GMT -5
5 7 and 2 after 14 games last year for a total of 12 points. 6 4 and 4 after 14 games this year for a total of 16 points. we are currently 4 points better thasn last year and Theodore was very poor not to mention the team has not really put together a solid 60 minutes yet. As ha began his mini rant about coaching it brings me to this train of thought that i outlined the other day. habsrus.proboards4.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&n=1&thread=4978we have no system or plan of attack from the coaching staff etcetera etcetera the false sense of security our point total has In my humble opinion sooner or later is gonna bite us in the rump. How are we going to effectively mold the hainsey's etcetera into the lineup if they have no firm idea which role they want the player to play in the "System". How is AS supposed to effectively search out the role player's nesacary to fill the holes in the puzzle of the existing "system". With no real identity or style of play to build a team by how do you build a team somehow in the back of my mind i keep thinking someday this whole goaltending security blanket is gonna get lost and when it does ouch. then again maybe what we have seen for the last 2 years is what the plan really is Bring out the paper bags if that's the case and welcome to "entrenched Mediocrity" as HA put it. I'm off to watch Star Wars to reminesce of the seventies dynasty. Godd night everyone.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 10, 2002 22:25:03 GMT -5
somehow in the back of my mind i keep thinking someday this whole goaltending security blanket is gonna get lost and when it does ouch. Nah our G will be fine. I am sure they don't mind facing 40 shots half the time ;D
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 10, 2002 23:51:12 GMT -5
Bring out the paper bags if that's the case and welcome to "entrenched Mediocrity" as HA put it. I wouldn't listen to that HA guy if I were you. He is a known delusional schizophrenic who hears voices that tell him the Hab's are on their way to glory and all this is a test of FAITH. Did you know, back in England, about as few hundred years ago they use to test if a person was a witch (or warlock) by tying weights on their feet and tossing them in a lake. If they raised out of the water they were evil (so they burned them) and if they drowned, their soul went to heaven anyway. And what is the Hab’s organization doing now? They test our faith by throwing us this version of the Hab’s. The truly devoted will go mad and senile so we wont know the difference and can’t remember it even if we did. *shrug*
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Post by 24andcounting on Nov 11, 2002 10:33:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't listen to that HA guy if I were you. He is a known delusional schizophrenic who hears voices that tell him the Hab's are on their way to glory and all this is a test of FAITH. Did you know, back in England, about as few hundred years ago they use to test if a person was a witch (or warlock) by tying weights on their feet and tossing them in a lake. If they raised out of the water they were evil (so they burned them) and if they drowned, their soul went to heaven anyway. And what is the Hab’s organization doing now? They test our faith by throwing us this version of the Hab’s. The truly devoted will go mad and senile so we wont know the difference and can’t remember it even if we did. *shrug* Enough said. That was hilarious. You crack me up HA.
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