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Post by UberCranky on Nov 9, 2002 12:37:03 GMT -5
Dear Mr. Savard. It appears to be that you are not going to do anything about our complaints about your coaches. Specifically, Mr. Therrein and Mr. Green. I am not sure why you are ignoring our e-mails and faxes but rest assure my fellow Hab fans and I are not to be taken lightly. I am writing to you one more time and appealing to your common sense and good logic to take action and send those fellows who are masquerading as NHL coaches on their way. Failing to do so will cause us to trade in our Lada’s and Pinto’s for something a little more powerful and a lot more effective. This is not a threat but a promise, for man at HabsRus neither issue hollow threats or utter childish bluffs. We are a proactive group that will take matters onto our hands and effect change. With or without you. Sir be warned, the next time Therrien causes the poor Hab's lemmings to seek the nearest pub and willfully drown our sorrows, we, the renown man of action that we are, shall take ACTION. I hope this link serves as the horse head in your bed: cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871775187Your sincerely and dangerously, HabsAddict and Company
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Post by JohnnyVerdun on Nov 9, 2002 13:08:06 GMT -5
Here's a theory:
Savard knew that these two or three years would be difficult. The team was bound to be a collection of guys with a future with the club, on the one hand, and a bunch of hired guns and retreads, on the other. He knew that there wouldn't be a ton of young guys on the club until 2003 and that he didn't require a teacher. He wanted some consistency after the turmoil of 2000. He knew the coach would be a short-term (2 years or so) plug and that he was doomed from the start. So he extends and backs the coach he inherited, Michel Therrien. Therrien, in turn, gets the benefit of Theodore's greatness last year and the team makes the playoffs, but it changes little in the big picture. He's not the coach Savard pictures taking the team to the next level. Is the guy in the house or his he coming from outside? Only Savard may know this for sure, but what he certainly knows is that a change is gonna come....
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 13:11:33 GMT -5
I hope you are right JV. 2-3 more years of MT would be dangerous for everyone here
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Post by Viper on Nov 9, 2002 13:20:34 GMT -5
While that Theory may be true how does it make sense to keep an incompetent as a coach while transitioning youth into the lineup The guy is proving repetitively (at least that's my opinion anyway) that he is not the man for the job. If this is not the guy AS wants then get rid of him so someone with some competence can steer the ship in the right direction. Player stop gaps ya i can buy that but using a coach as one is an absolutely horrible method of Asset Management if you ask me.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 13:25:10 GMT -5
While that Theory may be true how does it make sense to keep an incompetent as a coach while transitioning youth into the lineup . we are transitioning youth into the lineup?
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Post by Viper on Nov 9, 2002 13:34:58 GMT -5
Yes MP we are I am swaying my pendulum towards the slow and steady win's the race mentality. I like the way thing's have happened with Markov and hope the same can be true for other's like hainsey and the rest. As much as i want to win now and give the kids a go it's important to remember that throwing stuff into the fire almost always result's in severe burn's The transition i'm referring to is the one over the next couple of year's that JV has been pointing out and Vinna touched on in his thread. over the next couple season's when vet's walk away like gilmour and other's that's when it will happen. As far as keeping MThead during that timeframe goes i think it's a mistake because the new coach (if there is one) will be forced to retrain them (or just give them at least some kind of training to begin with ). I think the coach of the future whoever he is should be here now to implement a system and run with it as the team transition's. That way the incoming talent will know what they are getting into when they arrive and AS can acquire talent that will work efficiently in that system. Without a system what type of player's is it we are looking for
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 13:37:23 GMT -5
But Markov has been here for like 2 years already. This is his 3rd NHL season.
I don't see a rookie on the roster right now. Ribeiro will be a little used 4th liner when he returns.
And what tells you the Gilmour/Quintal/Juneau/Audette group won't be replaced by some mediocre veteran instead of a kid?
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Post by BCHab on Nov 9, 2002 13:41:03 GMT -5
I agree with JV on this. I think that's exactly what Savard is doing. Everyone and their dog is all over AS/MT for not playing the kids, having a roster full of expensive veterans... ad nauseam. I'm of the opinion that the kids are just not ready. Period. I include Ribeiro and Hainsey as well. The veterans are not exactly Enrico Ciccone or, my personal hero, Robert Dirk. They are established NHL players The mandate this year is to make the playoffs. It's Savard's call on how to achieve this and he can't afford to be whimsical. Not when there is more parity then ever in the league. It's quite apparent that he doesn't think Hossa and company can do the job this year or even next year possibly. So far, I haven't haven't heard of any of our much vaunted kids lighting up the AHL. Think they would do better in the NHL? Are you willing to bet a season on this?
No offense, but it's beyond me why people are so obstinate about this. Wishful thinking maybe.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 9, 2002 14:08:35 GMT -5
Good God, we're sick.
Here I toss out this whimsical thread about buying a Russian fighter and a serious discussion breaks out about our management. You know, if I ever win the lottery or have Spiro’s kind of money, I would fly everybody into the Ding-A-Ling Center and have the Hab’s play a game against Philly while we collectively coach them. Could you imagine?
BC: “put Koivu, Zed and Gilger out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> BC: “put Koivu, Zed and McKay out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> Viper: “put Hossa, Koivu and Zednik out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> Spiro: “get rid of Brisebois”<br> HA: ‘put Koivu, Zed and Komi out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> BC: “I’m slashing my wrists”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> Seventeen: “put Zednik, Koivu and Quintal, at least we can hope he gets stuffed into the net”<br> Marc: “I think I agree”<br> JV: “that’s dumber”<br> Spiro: “get rid of Brisebois”
HA: “I had enough, I’m gonna go and get laid”<br> PTH: “hey, wait for me”<br> BC: “me too, can I bring my Hockey Bible?”<br> Spiro: “I laid them all already”<br> Marc: “I’m too young, but next year”<br> HW: “I'm keeping the books"”<br> Meanwhile, Hab’s lose 53-0.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 14:12:20 GMT -5
I am a yes man?
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Post by Viper on Nov 9, 2002 14:21:22 GMT -5
BC for many of us i think the problem lies in weather or not the kids are being given a fair opportunity. Weather they are ready or not is not in question bur moreso the thought of are they being treated fairly. There is a very strong case for Hainsey' mistreatment this year his first benching was a joke IMO especially when almost all of our veteran blueliner's we're quilty of equally poor desicion's and in the case of quintal and dykhuis it could easily be argued that they played worse than Ron. MT IMO is playing vet's to protect his butt. Are the kids ready maybe maybe not and it's important to nurture them along just do it with some consistency that's all. In all honesty it reminds me of a job i had once I was an ASST. mgr of a restaurant being paid as a shift guy because the store profits didn't warrant an asst. on the payroll. I was training a guy to do the shift position because after myself and the GM. worked very hard on some public marketing and cost cutting measure's we turned the profit's up by almost 75 percent more than our projected forecast and an asst. position would be filled. As it turned out the guy i was teaching took the job from me because he was 3 year's older and Aparently was more mature.
I'm willing to bet Q-ball could learn a thing or 2 from Hainsey but got screwed because it's easier to blame it on the youth than the experienced (or so called) vet.
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Post by montreal on Nov 9, 2002 14:47:22 GMT -5
we are transitioning youth into the lineup? Yes, slowly. Markov's 23, Ribeiro's 22 (and was considered the starting 4th line center until his injury) and Hainsey is 21. Hainsey did't look very good, so he got sent down to work on things. He has 1 year of pro hockey under his belt before this season. So its understandable that he is still learning, and may not be ready for a year or two. If Garon were better, he might have been made the backup last year, but he did little to instill confidence in anyone. The only other youth that I think could of made this team and didn't was Hossa, and he didn't have the best camp, nor did he do much to start the season in the AHL. To me, our young players have to earn their place in the lineup, and only Markov is doing that. Ribs was good last year at first, but then he went into a funk and they started moving him around. It was clear he wasn't strong enough to be in the NHL, hopefully he's worked on that, or he wont be in the lineup much longer then Hainsey was, IMO. I don't support firing the coach. I don't think much of Therrien, but I wouldn't fire the guy. He's in his 3rd season, is over .500, made the 2nd round of the playoffs, and has us in 2nd in our division, on a team that is struggling. I loved his benching of Chow, Audette, and Kilger, and I think he's done a good job with the goalies. I would assume it was Savard who decided to send Hainsey down, and I agree with that as well. My opinion, don't blame the coach. Blame the freakin players. Hello, Quintal, played like crap so far, Theodore, played like crap (any game he does bad he will hear it and I got 5.3M reasons why) Gilmor, playing like crap, Petrov spining around in circles is neat, but not effecitive, Audette can't do anything right now, Chow is soft and lazy (did play 2 good games, NYI was his best, IMO), Lindsay wasn't doing his role that well, Kilger wasn't doing his role that well, Pereault has trouble in his own end, Dykhuis sucks. If not for a few guys showing up every night, this would be a lot worse. You can say that its Therrien's job to get the guys fired up, but I blame the players, everytime I see them do something stupid that they know they shouldn't be doing cause they are being lazy and not working hard and so little emotion when their team is getting its but kicked.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 9, 2002 14:57:18 GMT -5
Dammit, it's my FUNNY thread and I am going to be FUNNY. Sheesh..... Saturdays it's Funnies day and Sunday is for Rants! *starts crying*
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COACH Carries a dog house with him Is more powerful than a train Is smarter then an IBM computer Walks on water Gives policy to God
TEAM CAPTAIN Recommends people for the dog house Is more powerful than a moped Is just as fast as a speeding bullet Walks on water if the sea is calm Talks with God
ASSISTANT CAPTAIN Looks at the dog house and remembers the old days Is almost as powerful as a moped Is faster than a speeding BB Walks on water in an indoor swimming pool Talks with God if special request is granted
DEFENSEMAN Barely clears a the dog house door Faster then a skate board Can fire a speeding bullet Swims well Is occasionally addressed by God
FORWARD Makes high marks on the wall when trying to leap dog house Is run over by defenseman on skate boards Can sometimes handle a gun without inflicting self-injury Dog paddles on ice Talks to animals
ROOKIE Runs into buildings Recognizes coach’potatoe two out of three times Is not issued ammunition Can't stay afloat with a life preserver Talks to walls
REFEREE Falls over doorsteps when trying to enter buildings Says "Me give punishment!" Wets himself with a water pistol Plays in mud puddles Wears leather thong and has leather fetish Mumbles to himself
GOALIE Stops coaches from entering their own dog house Hacks any stray dogs from the other side Catches speeding bullets with his teeth and eats them Mesmerizes silly crowds with crotch splitting saves Sometimes listens to God GENERAL MANAGER Talks to the animals Carries a big hockey stick Sells their asses to the highest bidder He is GOD
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Post by Viper on Nov 9, 2002 15:03:05 GMT -5
If we win tonight is sunday still rant day
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 9, 2002 15:47:48 GMT -5
I agree with JV on this. I think that's exactly what Savard is doing. Everyone and their dog is all over AS/MT for not playing the kids, having a roster full of expensive veterans... ad nauseam. I'm of the opinion that the kids are just not ready. Period. I include Ribeiro and Hainsey as well. The veterans are not exactly Enrico Ciccone or, my personal hero, Robert Dirk. They are established NHL players The mandate this year is to make the playoffs. It's Savard's call on how to achieve this and he can't afford to be whimsical. Not when there is more parity then ever in the league. It's quite apparent that he doesn't think Hossa and company can do the job this year or even next year possibly. So far, I haven't haven't heard of any of our much vaunted kids lighting up the AHL. Think they would do better in the NHL? Are you willing to bet a season on this? No offense, but it's beyond me why people are so obstinate about this. Wishful thinking maybe. If they're so da*ned good, then why aren't they playing? I said it two years ago. If they can't out-play the veterans then they are doomed to the AHL. A simple concept, no? Sheesh! Cheers.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Nov 9, 2002 15:52:23 GMT -5
Good God, we're sick. Here I toss out this whimsical thread about buying a Russian fighter and a serious discussion breaks out about our management. You know, if I ever win the lottery or have Spiro’s kind of money, I would fly everybody into the Ding-A-Ling Center and have the Hab’s play a game against Philly while we collectively coach them. Could you imagine? BC: “put Koivu, Zed and Gilger out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> BC: “put Koivu, Zed and McKay out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> Viper: “put Hossa, Koivu and Zednik out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> JV: “That’s dumb”<br> Spiro: “get rid of Brisebois”<br> HA: ‘put Koivu, Zed and Komi out”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> BC: “I’m slashing my wrists”<br> Marc: “I agree”<br> Seventeen: “put Zednik, Koivu and Quintal, at least we can hope he gets stuffed into the net”<br> Marc: “I think I agree”<br> JV: “that’s dumber”<br> Spiro: “get rid of Brisebois” HA: “I had enough, I’m gonna go and get laid”<br> PTH: “hey, wait for me”<br> BC: “me too, can I bring my Hockey Bible?”<br> Spiro: “I laid them all already”<br> Marc: “I’m too young, but next year”<br> HW: “I'm keeping the books"”<br> Meanwhile, Hab’s lose 53-0. You killed me with this one. Note, the best place to get laid is ... er, later .... Oh, and you forgot, Dis: "...did someone mention beer..." This one was a classic. Cheers (with my Tim Horton's double-double)
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 16:25:49 GMT -5
Yes, slowly. Markov's 23, Ribeiro's 22 (and was considered the starting 4th line center until his injury) and Hainsey is 21. Hainsey did't look very good, so he got sent down to work on things. He has 1 year of pro hockey under his belt before this season. So its understandable that he is still learning, and may not be ready for a year or two. If Garon were better, he might have been made the backup last year, but he did little to instill confidence in anyone. The only other youth that I think could of made this team and didn't was Hossa, and he didn't have the best camp, nor did he do much to start the season in the AHL. Ok, Markov well he's no rookie anymore. But he's gone from not very important to EXTREMELY important in barely a year. Ribeiro, should be interesting to see how they use him. I would use him on the 2nd PP point and on a 4th line to start Hainsey hasn't really been added to the team yet but should be very soon. Once he re-gains his confidence in the AHL and the Habs find out half their D is scary, he'll be back So that gives us 2 guys and maybe a 3rd one soon. Garon could be back if/when Hack is dealt and Hossa more likely next year. I still wouldn't say youth is being added to the lineup like the Sens do every year, but there are traces of it. Well I thought he started going in a funk when they got Berezin and put Ribs at RW. He never was the same after.
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 9, 2002 16:56:25 GMT -5
Does it bother anyone that we don't have a single player in the top 53 scoring list. Unfortunately the list I looked at only went up to 53. It is possible that our best scorer doesn't crack the top 100 but I haven't found a better list.
Lots of depth Andre, but no quality.
Maybe you're waiting for Chouinard to come up and lead the league in scoring? Perhaps you want to get two more forwards to add to the team (one way scorers in their late 30's who with a combined weight of 200 lbs. that had their most productive years in the early 90's.)
I know I'm cynical, but you are making it easy to be cynical.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 16:59:42 GMT -5
Markov and Koivu are our best point getters with 10 points each....I don't know where that ranks in the league but I doubt it's top 70.
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Post by montreal on Nov 9, 2002 17:18:05 GMT -5
Ok, Markov well he's no rookie anymore. But he's gone from not very important to EXTREMELY important in barely a year. Ribeiro, should be interesting to see how they use him. I would use him on the 2nd PP point and on a 4th line to start Hainsey hasn't really been added to the team yet but should be very soon. Once he re-gains his confidence in the AHL and the Habs find out half their D is scary, he'll be back So that gives us 2 guys and maybe a 3rd one soon. Garon could be back if/when Hack is dealt and Hossa more likely next year. I still wouldn't say youth is being added to the lineup like the Sens do every year, but there are traces of it. Well I thought he started going in a funk when they got Berezin and put Ribs at RW. He never was the same after. Yea Markov's no rookie, but at 23 is a youth for sure. They have done a great job with him, and hopefully get the same results with Hainsey. I also am interested in what they will do with Ribeiro. And Hainsey was in the lineup (8-9 games?) and it didn't work. We gave him a shot, he didn't take advantage of it, so its back to the farm. It's not Savard's/Therrien's/Green's fault, it's Ron Hainsey's fault. And yes that's 2 guys that are young and at some point the rookie (hainsey will be back). But we can't have too many young players on the team at one time, so 2 or 3 is a good number. Who else would you have in the lineup? Hossa, no I wouldn't, Garon, no better guys in front of him, Balej, NO, Plekanec, no not ready, Komisarek, no ready IMO, maybe in a year or two. Ward, maybe but we got Chow, Audette, Petrov, McKay, Dackell, where do we put him. Gratton, maybe, I wouldn't, Landry, I hope he gets a sniff again, it must be really hard on him in Utah, after all he had to be looking forward to returning to Hamilton, and he wife just gave birth to their kid and now he's on the other end of the country. Anyone else? O'Dette, no no no. As for the Sens, well we're not the Sens and maybe our prospects aren't as good as theres. I mean we don't have a Spezza, Havlat, to put in the lineup or they would be there for sure. As for Ribeiro last year, yea he struggle when Berezin was here, but he struggled the whole time he was here in his own end. When Berezin got here is when he stopped putting up points, so its off to the farm. Ribeiro was a -11 or worse, I don't remember, but hopefully he can work on that, along with getting stronger on the puck, and faster, man is he slow. But I'm a big fan off Ribs, I think he's show good improvement every year. I look forward to see what he does this year.
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Post by montreal on Nov 9, 2002 17:18:41 GMT -5
Does it bother anyone that we don't have a single player in the top 53 scoring list. Unfortunately the list I looked at only went up to 53. It is possible that our best scorer doesn't crack the top 100 but I haven't found a better list. Lots of depth Andre, but no quality. Maybe you're waiting for Chouinard to come up and lead the league in scoring? Perhaps you want to get two more forwards to add to the team (one way scorers in their late 30's who with a combined weight of 200 lbs. that had their most productive years in the early 90's.) I know I'm cynical, but you are making it easy to be cynical. No, I'm not worried. Thats not our game. Though it would be nice to have a real super star that can be one of the top scorers in the league, its not going to happen for sometime, I would think. Our game should hopefully be in the form of balance. If Zednik, Koivu, Perreault, Chow, Audette, Petrov, come close to 20 goals apiece thats a balanced attack, then add Markov, Brisebois, Rivet getting 5-10 goals a piece we should have an improved offence over last years total of 207 total goals for (i think it was 207).
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 17:24:55 GMT -5
Yea Markov's no rookie, but at 23 is a youth for sure. They have done a great job with him, and hopefully get the same results with Hainsey. I also am interested in what they will do with Ribeiro. And Hainsey was in the lineup (8-9 games?) and it didn't work. We gave him a shot, he didn't take advantage of it, so its back to the farm. It's not Savard's/Therrien's/Green's fault, it's Ron Hainsey's fault. And yes that's 2 guys that are young and at some point the rookie (hainsey will be back). But we can't have too many young players on the team at one time, so 2 or 3 is a good number. Who else would you have in the lineup? Hossa, no I wouldn't, Garon, no better guys in front of him, Balej, NO, Plekanec, no not ready, Komisarek, no ready IMO, maybe in a year or two. Ward, maybe but we got Chow, Audette, Petrov, McKay, Dackell, where do we put him. Gratton, maybe, I wouldn't, Landry, I hope he gets a sniff again, it must be really hard on him in Utah, after all he had to be looking forward to returning to Hamilton, and he wife just gave birth to their kid and now he's on the other end of the country. Anyone else? O'Dette, no no no. Good point, I would have acquired more Zednik/Bulis/Kilger types instead of Audette/Chow/Odjick/Quintal/Lindsay type veterans. I agree about our prospects, the guys we have drafted most of them are not ready yet. But that doesn't mean we can't try to acquire youth from other teams. Well Spezza they call him up and he plays with Hossa and Bonk. The top spot on the team basically. Would the Habs do that with a rookie? play him with Saku and Zed? of course not...they would play him on a 4th line, having him go pointless and then send him down. He sucked defensively, but that's not his game. He's an offensive player and when Audette went down in early December and we called up Ribeiro, he did his job: provide offence. I hope he sticks this year as well. I would rather see young talented smurfs instead of old smurfs(lol)
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Post by montreal on Nov 9, 2002 17:40:39 GMT -5
Good point, I would have acquired more Zednik/Bulis/Kilger types instead of Audette/Chow/Odjick/Quintal/Lindsay type veterans. I agree about our prospects, the guys we have drafted most of them are not ready yet. But that doesn't mean we can't try to acquire youth from other teams. Well Spezza they call him up and he plays with Hossa and Bonk. The top spot on the team basically. Would the Habs do that with a rookie? play him with Saku and Zed? of course not...they would play him on a 4th line, having him go pointless and then send him down. He sucked defensively, but that's not his game. He's an offensive player and when Audette went down in early December and we called up Ribeiro, he did his job: provide offence. I hope he sticks this year as well. I would rather see young talented smurfs instead of old smurfs(lol) Well we could have a very long thread talking about what Savard could have done to acquire youth, but to me, I think the better short term plan is get guys that have experience, mixed with a young core (Zednik 26, Koivu 28?, Rivet 28, Souray 26, Bulis 24, Kilger 25, Theo 26) so you bring in guys like McKay, Gilmor, (and their cup experience), Perreault, Audette, Chow (experienced goal scorers, on a team that sorely needs offence) and returning (Quintal, Blouin) Quintal played his best days here, so a gamble that he can do it again, a 4th was too much for him, IMO, but if he picks it up, I'll be much happier. No I don't buy that for a minute. We havent had a Spezza in our prospect pool (very highly touted prospect, only Komisarek comes close, and he cleary wasn't ready). If we had Spezza, he would be on one of the top lines, IMO, but who can say for sure either way? I would just like to have a Spezza type at forward even if it was the 4th line (which I doubt he would be) Yea Ribs sucked in his own zone. I dont care how good you are, you have to be able to handle yourself in your own end. He looked lost out there, it was scary. I hope he improves. As for having Audette in over Ribs, well I don't care, I just want whoever is in to be playing good, if not they should sit.
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Post by Psycorp on Nov 9, 2002 17:52:33 GMT -5
HabsAddict, why did you post a nude picture of Petrov? didn't you read the code of conduct?
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Post by HFTO on Nov 9, 2002 17:56:02 GMT -5
Dis your're right unless the kids we have are badly out playing a vet on this team they will remain in the AHL.Savards mandate was clear make the playoffs! Unfortunatley for Savard they came close to going to the going to the conference finals. Alas the raised expectations. I really beleive that these raised expectations have paralysed AS into not making any drastic changes.Now that the bar is raised I feel he is being very catious I'm sure he feels he has to make the playoffs again or else he may be looking for work.That may be a stretch but the pressure is there. Things are extremey tight and you may miss the playoffs with 90pts. I do think most of us here would like to see a younger squad rather than the current over paid bunch that regardless of any moves look like they will be scratching to the finish line. We have to ask ourselves the same question Savard is can we afford to change the outlook of this team by inserting some of our younger talent at the risk of the playoffs? To me the answer is yes because I feel this current line up wiil fall short. HFTO
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 18:24:47 GMT -5
Well we could have a very long thread talking about what Savard could have done to acquire youth, but to me, I think the better short term plan is get guys that have experience, mixed with a young core (Zednik 26, Koivu 28?, Rivet 28, Souray 26, Bulis 24, Kilger 25, Theo 26) so you bring in guys like McKay, Gilmor, (and their cup experience), Perreault, Audette, Chow (experienced goal scorers, on a team that sorely needs offence) and returning (Quintal, Blouin) Quintal played his best days here, so a gamble that he can do it again, a 4th was too much for him, IMO, but if he picks it up, I'll be much happier. No I don't buy that for a minute. We havent had a Spezza in our prospect pool (very highly touted prospect, only Komisarek comes close, and he cleary wasn't ready). If we had Spezza, he would be on one of the top lines, IMO, but who can say for sure either way? I would just like to have a Spezza type at forward even if it was the 4th line (which I doubt he would be) Yea Ribs sucked in his own zone. I dont care how good you are, you have to be able to handle yourself in your own end. He looked lost out there, it was scary. I hope he improves. As for having Audette in over Ribs, well I don't care, I just want whoever is in to be playing good, if not they should sit. Woah. Relax there a bit. Is your blood pressure rising? Keep in mind people here analyse every single move the Habs make. We are just like that. We've been down this road before(the youth vs veteran debate) and it's turned out ugly. *deep breath in...deep breath out* Go Habs Go.
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Post by montreal on Nov 9, 2002 18:34:24 GMT -5
Woah. Relax there a bit. Is your blood pressure rising? Keep in mind people here analyse every single move the Habs make. We are just like that. We've been down this road before(the youth vs veteran debate) and it's turned out ugly. *deep breath in...deep breath out* Go Habs Go. No, I'm fine. Thats nothing, just me voiceing my opinion. I understand that people want to see youth instead of veteran, but it aint going to happen. Markov and Ribeiro and maybe Hainsey and Garon at some point this year. I don't care, as long as we win.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 9, 2002 18:45:23 GMT -5
ok thought you were about to have a heart attack or something.
Cheers.
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