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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 7, 2002 21:06:38 GMT -5
He just said it on CKAC...3 games(or a week) in Hamilton for conditioning...
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Post by Habs_fan_in_LA on Nov 7, 2002 22:32:04 GMT -5
Look on the bright side. He won't have Therrien coaching him!
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Post by montreal on Nov 8, 2002 0:58:20 GMT -5
He just said it on CKAC...3 games(or a week) in Hamilton for conditioning... Did they say when it starts? We can send him down for 14 days, so I would send him down for the full 2 weeks, and if he's not playing good keep him down there as long as he agrees, until he picks it up.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 8, 2002 1:13:39 GMT -5
Apparently it is for three games starting this weekend. If Savard had his way he would probably keep him down for a while. Or at least long enough so he could make some kind of trade.
I am debating if it is worth going to the next Monday or Wednesday game. You know the life of an amateur scout is arduous, demanding……………cheap food, low pay (pay? what pay?) and full of those terribly voluptuous groupies that follow scouts everywhere.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 8, 2002 7:23:03 GMT -5
So who gets put on waivers?
In order for Ribeiro to be sent to Hamilton on a conditioning assignment, he has to be on the NHL roster (otherwise he would have to clear waivers). Since our roster is already full, who gets put on waivers and demoted to Hamilton/Utah with Ribeiro? Lindsay? Blouin? Kilger?
Or is this the end for Hainsey?
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 8, 2002 7:45:09 GMT -5
Blouin: and he wasted a pick. Did I say waste?
Kilger: and then needs to be fired.
Lindsay: Semi useful carpenter.
Hamilton is going to be a great place to watch future Hab's. One has to wonder what Hainsey is thinking. Can this start to chew away his confidence and his will to excel? This is not Mtheads doing and if anything happens to our best prospect then it will rest squarely on Savard’s shoulders.
IMHO Hainsey is ready for the big time and just needs to keep polishing his game. Not running it trough the AHL meat grinder.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 8, 2002 7:50:23 GMT -5
I'm gonna bet on Hainsey being sent down. I say Quintal comes off of IR, and takes his place, and Blouin comes down with "back spasms" and goes on IR, which would convienently make room for Ribeiro on the roster.
So there.
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Post by UberCranky on Nov 8, 2002 8:17:01 GMT -5
I'm gonna bet on Hainsey being sent down. I say Quintal comes off of IR, and takes his place, and Blouin comes down with "back spasms" and goes on IR, which would convienently make room for Ribeiro on the roster. So there. Huh? I agree with you. This will just serve to add fuel to my ranting and raving against management. Savard's halo is not only getting tarnished, it's beginning to rust. He better do something bright and fast. Real fast.
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Post by HFTO on Nov 8, 2002 8:20:28 GMT -5
Is he not exempt as Garon was?Are you not allowed to send a player down for conditioning before being forced to put him on waivers or did Blouin take his spot? HFTO
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Post by Gord on Nov 8, 2002 8:45:12 GMT -5
Yes, but as BC said, he must be on the active roster in order to be assigned to Hamilton (even for conditioning purposes). Yvon Pedneault mentioned this last night. So, someone had to be put on waivers or an eligible player has to be demoted to get him on the roster first.
No one was called up to replace Quintal on IR, so technically there still is a roster spot open, but as soon as he returns there's an issue. Of course, he could send Garon down for a few games again, along with Ribeiro. That would buy him a little time to move a body.
I'm hoping it's Traverse.. I've defended this guy in the past as being unspectacular, but servicable. I rescind anything I previously said. He was terrible last night, and against the Blues. I would much prefer to see Boo-Boo in his spot.
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Post by BadCompany on Nov 8, 2002 8:55:47 GMT -5
No one was called up to replace Quintal on IR, so technically there still is a roster spot open, but as soon as he returns there's an issue. Of course, he could send Garon down for a few games again, along with Ribeiro. That would buy him a little time to move a body. Unfortunately, that's not true. We added Slyvain Blouin, remember?
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Post by Gord on Nov 8, 2002 9:48:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that's not true. We added Slyvain Blouin, remember? Ah yes, good point! Hadn't thought of that. So it gets even tougher now, doesn't it? A spot must be opened for both Quintal and Ribeiro. Souray is still out there someone too, what's his ETA? Another month or two?
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Post by Patty Roy on Nov 8, 2002 9:49:14 GMT -5
Or is this the end for Hainsey? Sadly, i think this will be the case. How is it that in a matter of weeks, Hainsey has gone from a kid with great poise to a kid that looks nervous and even a bit confused on the ice? I think he played about 8 or 9 minutes last night...when was the last time the Habs leaned so heavily on their top couple of d-men (Brisebois around 30 minutes against the Leafs, Markov around 27 minutes last night)? When Quintal is ready to go, Hainsey will be sent down to Hamilton. At least in Hamilton he will be allowed to play his game and hopefully get his confidence back. My guess is Hainsey will spend the next few months in the AHL and will be back with the Habs sometime in the new year.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 8, 2002 10:32:12 GMT -5
Did they say when it starts? We can send him down for 14 days, so I would send him down for the full 2 weeks, and if he's not playing good keep him down there as long as he agrees, until he picks it up. Either Friday(today)-Sunday-Wednesday Or Sunday-Wednesday-Friday the 15th But since he is healthy, we have to make room for him on the 23 man roster to send him down for conditioning. So expect Lindsay to go on waivers.
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Post by MPLABBE on Nov 8, 2002 10:37:39 GMT -5
Sadly, i think this will be the case. How is it that in a matter of weeks, Hainsey has gone from a kid with great poise to a kid that looks nervous and even a bit confused on the ice? I think he played about 8 or 9 minutes last night...when was the last time the Habs leaned so heavily on their top couple of d-men (Brisebois around 30 minutes against the Leafs, Markov around 27 minutes last night)? When Quintal is ready to go, Hainsey will be sent down to Hamilton. At least in Hamilton he will be allowed to play his game and hopefully get his confidence back. My guess is Hainsey will spend the next few months in the AHL and will be back with the Habs sometime in the new year. Hainsey played 7 minutes last night... But here's are the problems with sending him down to Hamilton: -Going with only 6 D, 2 of them being Traverse and Quintal, one of them with a bad wrist(Rivet) and one of them with a bad ankle(Breezy) is EXTREMELY risky. Beyond crazy IMO. What happens if we are on a trip and we lose one of them and we play 24 hours later and the Dogs are hours away. We may have to play a game with 5 D if Hainsey can't get back soon enough -There is no room in Hamilton. Komisarek, Bouillon, Semenov ,Allen, Pisa (when Brewer is healthy in Edmonton), Beauchemin, Bergeron and probably another guy are already there. None of these guys should be sent to the ECHL(they are too good). Adding Hainsey to that blueline will just make it even more crowded. I wouldn't be surprised if Kilger is dealt for a prospect and Lindsay is put on waivers. Cuz right now going with 6 D would be too risky IMO.
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Post by montreal on Nov 8, 2002 17:53:27 GMT -5
Hainsey played 7 minutes last night... But here's are the problems with sending him down to Hamilton: -Going with only 6 D, 2 of them being Traverse and Quintal, one of them with a bad wrist(Rivet) and one of them with a bad ankle(Breezy) is EXTREMELY risky. Beyond crazy IMO. What happens if we are on a trip and we lose one of them and we play 24 hours later and the Dogs are hours away. We may have to play a game with 5 D if Hainsey can't get back soon enough -There is no room in Hamilton. Komisarek, Bouillon, Semenov ,Allen, Pisa (when Brewer is healthy in Edmonton), Beauchemin, Bergeron and probably another guy are already there. None of these guys should be sent to the ECHL(they are too good). Adding Hainsey to that blueline will just make it even more crowded. I wouldn't be surprised if Kilger is dealt for a prospect and Lindsay is put on waivers. Cuz right now going with 6 D would be too risky IMO. Well I don't see it as a problem, thats why they have those airplanes to fly people to places far away in a short time. But I do agree there's no room in Hamilton. Beauchemin should be sent to the ECHL, as he spent sometime there last year, and it would be better then sitting.
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